🎧 Spurs Insider️ 播客: 文班亚马王者归来

Spurs Insider Podcast, 2025-10-08 06:57:00

由生成式人工智能翻译,译文内容可能不准确或不完整,以原文为准。

专栏作家迈克·芬格 (Mike Finger) 与马刺跟队记者杰夫·麦克唐纳 (Jeff McDonald) 共同探讨了维克托·文班亚马 (Victor Wembanyama) 在周一马刺队首场季前赛中的回归表现。两人还就卡特·布莱恩特 (Carter Bryant) 本赛季可能产生的影响展开了讨论。

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以下是本期播客的文字实录:

迈克·芬格 :[音乐渐入] 这里是《马刺内幕》,我们从南德克萨斯州一处高度机密的秘密网络为您播报。季前赛已经打响,常规赛即将到来,我们团队也齐聚一堂。我是迈克·芬格,与我同在的还有《快报新闻》的马刺跟队记者杰夫·麦克唐纳和体育编辑尼克·塔尔博特 (Nick Talbott)。不过,我说团队齐聚,其实我们还少了汤姆·奥斯本 (Tom Orsborn),此刻他正随圣安东尼奥马刺队横跨美国,飞往迈阿密。我们会努力顶住压力,继续节目的。

我们录制这期节目的时间是在季前赛揭幕战的第二天早上,也就是期待已久的文班亚马身穿战袍重返霜岸中心球场的日子。他在周末参加了一场队内训练赛,昨晚又“折磨”了一支来自中国的表演赛球队。杰夫,你当时就在场边见证了维克托的回归,虽然马刺队的核心阵容并未悉数登场,很多人都穿着便装,但能看到这位大个子回来真是太好了。顺便一提,他的官方身高已经报到7英尺4英寸了。他在马刺队的花名册上又长高了1英寸,这位来自法国的7尺4寸大个子回来了。对于他七个半月以来的首场正式比赛,你怎么看?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我和维克托有个共同点。他在休赛期身高长了1英寸,而我的腰围粗了1英寸。

迈克·芬格 :这……这很不错。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :所以……

迈克·芬格 :很不错。我们都在成长。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我想,听众们可能更关心他增加的尺寸是在哪个部位,也许不是腰围,而是他的二头肌、肩膀、大腿。关于他变成一个肌肉男的讨论很多。老实说,从我的角度看,他仍然不像扬尼斯(字母哥)或者德怀特·霍华德 (Dwight Howard)。而且,你知道,我确信他确实进行了休赛期训练,也变得更强壮了,但他仍然是个身材纤细的家伙。不过,他依然是一个看他打球就充满乐趣的球员。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :是的,夏天的时候,他练功夫、周游世界,是全世界最有趣的人。现在,他又回归到篮球场上,成为了最有趣的人。说真的,无论是从队内训练赛还是昨晚的季前赛来看,最主要的感受就是,维克托所做的一切,以及马刺围绕维克托所做的一切,都太有意思了。

嗯,在队内训练赛中,他确实用上了那些肌肉。其中一个疯传的视频片段就是他在队内赛中径直撞向新队友卢克·科内特 (Luke Kornet),然后完成了一记残暴的扣篮。顺便说一句,科内特是球队签来增强护筐的球员,他是联盟顶级的护筐手之一,但在那个回合里,文班直接强吃了那个大家都看到的球。然后在昨晚的比赛中,关于文班有两点让我印象深刻。一是他与卢克·科内特的配合,由身高7尺4的文班作为持球手打挡拆,那个二人配合看起来效果非常棒。当然了,他们面对的是一支来自中国的球队,队里没人能对得上这两位球员中的任何一个。对阵NBA级别的对手时,情况可能会更艰难一些。但是,科内特去年在波士顿和波尔津吉斯搭档时确实有过一些高光时刻。所以我认为当维克托和卢克同时在场时,他们的组合会非常值得期待。

另外一点让我印象深刻的是,去年我们从未加入过“维克托不该投三分”的阵营。但有些人认为,他身高7尺4,就该待在禁区,不该一场比赛出手7次三分。然而昨晚,维克托只投了一次三分,是在上半场还剩2分50秒左右的时候。他只打了半场比赛,所以基本上是在他出场时间的末段,他出手并命中了那记三分。除此之外,他都在放弃那些出手机会,转而用投篮假动作突破到禁区,然后分球给朱利安·尚佩尼 (Julian Champagnie) 投三分。对我来说,这是他在理念上或侧重点上的一个有趣变化。如果他能成为那样的进攻组织者,那这个赛季的维克托·文班亚马将会非常令人期待。

迈克·芬格 :我同意你对这一显著变化的看法。我想他以前也有过一些阶段不怎么投三分,但我几乎敢用我的一切打赌,未来肯定还会有他一场比赛出手八到十次三分的时候。他不会放弃自己武器库里的这一招。这是他引以为傲的一部分,也不仅仅是虚荣心作祟,认为自己是个三分射手。这正是解锁他‘外星人’属性的关键之一,对吧?身高7尺4却能命中那些三分球,这才是关键。而且他永远不会有德怀特·霍华德那样的身材,永远不会成为一个纯粹的内线球员。所以,那些三分球还是会有的。但你说得对,如果他能有一段时间真正专注于其他方面,那就不一样了。昨晚赛后和米奇·约翰逊 (Mitch Johnson) 交流时,他提到的一个回合并不是那个惊世骇俗的盖帽直接策动的快攻得分——我甚至不确定我是否见过类似的回合,他封盖了一位中国球员的上篮,球打在篮板上直接发动了快攻,几乎是瞬间就转化成了凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 的快攻得分。如果你还没在网上看到那个球,你应该能找到。

米奇没有提那个球。他提到了一个回合,维克托持球突破,转身,用米奇·约翰逊的话说,“做了一个我们这个房间里任何人都能做出的胸前传球”。我想他当时是看着杰夫·麦克唐纳说的。他没见过我打球,我觉得米奇可能高估我了。米奇说,这个房间里的任何人——一群体育记者和摄像师——都能做出这个胸前传球给朱利安·尚佩尼命中三分。而这正是让他印象深刻的地方——维克托理解场上局势,懂得如何让队友参与进来,明白他不仅能靠自己,也能依靠队友让比赛变得简单。那句引言,出自我们的“赛后三点速评”栏目——这个栏目又在expressnews.com回归了——杰夫昨晚喝着三罐健怡可乐写下的每场比赛三大看点。如果你想查一下,可以找到我听过的维克托最喜欢的引言之一。我越想越觉得这句话太妙了。我不知道他是不是从别人那里借来的,但杰夫,它就在你的“三点速评”里。你还记得原话吗?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :你这是要我放弃一个我闭着眼睛都能投进的球……你要让我,你要逼我查一下,我想确保我说得完全正确,你知道吗?

迈克·芬格 :好吧,我很确定是,“我学会了……我可以放弃一个我闭着眼睛都能投进的球……”天哪。你到底找没找到?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我在努力找啊。你太急了。现在是播出事故,我们正在流失听众。

迈克·芬格 :你继续说,我来找。好吧……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :好了,他说,“你知道,我……基本上,我可能放弃了一个我闭着眼睛都能投进的球,但这是为了给我的队友创造一个他睡着了都能投进的机会。”

迈克·芬格 :这句话多棒啊!这真是一句金句。是……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :社交媒体上有人说,这简直是文学版的《从优秀到卓越》。

迈克·芬格 :是啊,是啊。“我放弃了一个我闭着眼睛都能投进的球,为了队友一个睡着了都能投进的机会。”而且,这是用他的第二语言说出来的。太厉害了。

这让我想起了……这里我们可能真的要让听众走神了,我也记不太清了,但以前人们还在电视上看电视的时候,有一部电视剧叫《白宫风云》(The West Wing)。剧中有一个关于与外国外交官打交道的故事,那个外交官用了一个典故,大意是“我们为什么要有足以毁灭世界两次的核武器,一次还不够吗?”这在那一集里是个关键情节,因为它表明,说话的并非那个外交官本人,而是某个精通英语并理解其中深意的人。真不敢相信我用这个浪费了大家的时间。但当我听到维克托用他的第二语言给出如此完美的比喻,如此完美的引言时,我就想起了这个。他在场上场下都让我惊叹。这已经不是什么新闻了。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :你知道吗,那段话其实是维克托一个很长的、很有启发性的回答的一部分。当时具体的问题是关于那几个回合,他本可以投三分,而我已经习惯了他会出手那些球。我已经习惯了只要有空位他就会投。但他接球后,做了一个投篮假动作晃过防守人,突向禁区,然后分球给朱利安投三分。他就为什么今年会寻求这样做给出了一个长篇回答。部分原因是他意识到,对他来说,一次糟糕的出手选择有时仍然是一次不错的投篮。他仍然能命中那些球。所以他想通了,我随时都能得到出手机会,不管进攻时限是剩21秒还是2秒。那为什么我们不作为一个团队去寻找一个更好的、有空位的机会呢?如果实在没办法了,我还是可以在进攻时限只剩2秒的时候出手同样的高难度投篮。以他的身高和技术,他可以在任何时候完成出手。所以,既然他之后还能得到同样的三分机会,为什么当时就要投呢?而不是去为朱利安·尚佩尼创造一个完全空位的机会?

迈克·芬格 :这又不是什么革命性的想法。这是篮球教练们 preach 了很多年的东西,但昨晚听到他用那种方式说出来……我想你基本上是在引用他的原话。我记得他说的是,“我可以在进攻还剩21秒的时候就投一个高难度后仰跳投。但在进攻时限还剩2秒之前,我完全没理由那么做。”

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我们有24秒的时间去寻找最佳解决方案。

迈克·芬格 :我们有24秒的时间去寻找……他太不可思议了。别管场上那些疯狂的表现了,光是他在10分钟的新闻发布会上,就能贡献出那么多金句。真的,真的太棒了。

但……但对于那些关心这支球队是否终于要开始赢球的听众来说,关键在于,他会把这些想法付诸实践吗?这会让球队变得更好吗?再说一次,这只是一支来自中国的表演赛对手,队里有维克托·奥拉迪波 (Victor Oladipo) 和“坦克”弗兰克·卡明斯基 (Frank ‘The Tank’ Kaminsky),此外就没什么了。但……但如果你是马刺球迷,你肯定会感到鼓舞,因为种种迹象表明,首先,维克托出现在了球场上,穿着队服,在篮球规则和篮球节奏下打了一场比赛。你不会担心有什么可怕的事情发生。至少我……你知道,我不认为任何球迷会担心。我不认为维克托会担心。我也不认为任何教练会担心,“哦,他能顶得住吗?”他看起来就是维克托。这对……对他和整个项目来说,都是一件非常非常重要的事情。所以。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :而且我觉得,我们还了解到马刺大概也能赢下中国联赛的冠军。

迈克·芬格 :也许吧。我们不知道那是不是中国联赛里最强的球队,但是……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :是的。我确实认为维克托大概会是中国联赛里排名前二或前三的球员之一。

迈克·芬格 :你现在又开始抛出这些劲爆观点,想给我们博取关注了。马刺队,他们没有赢下盘口。好吧,我们不……你可以。我可不参与这些乱七八糟的。

向播客的老朋友保罗·加西亚 (Paul Garcia) 和马修·泰南 (Matthew Tynan) 致敬,他们在这场盛大的表演赛的最后阶段,其中一个人竟然病态到去查了一场由圣安东尼奥马刺队,一支由一堆Exhibit 10合同球员和双向合同球员组成的圣安东尼奥马刺队,对阵一支来自中国的球队的季前赛的让分盘。他们查了一下,盘口是35.5分,谁会……谁会赌这个啊?而且在他们提起这事的时候,马刺队在比赛最后一分钟领先35分。然后情况对主队就不利了。他们没能赢下盘口。所以……有人说这可能有丑闻,比赛可能被操纵了,但是……我觉得NBA处理科怀·伦纳德 (Kawhi Leonard) 的事已经够忙的了。我们不需要再为巴勃罗·托雷 (Pablo Torre) 发起另一项调查了。我想这是给巴勃罗·托雷的证据,宝贝。嗯哼。

但是天哪,如果你在听,而且你赌了那场比赛,我说……醒醒吧,朋友。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :德阿隆·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox) 在媒体日上说了什么来着?你知道屏幕下方那个号码,1-800求助热线之类的。你该打那个电话了。

迈克·芬格 :说得对。这是一个很好的过渡,来谈谈昨晚没上场的球员。我们训练营开始一周了,我知道外面已经怨声载道了。大家很担心。街头巷尾一片恐慌,因为不仅德阿隆·福克斯没打,不仅首发控卫昨晚没打,斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 也休战了,德文·瓦塞尔 (Devin Vassell) 也休战了。还有哪些重要球员……迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 也休战了。嗯,给听众们介绍一下吧,杰夫,你每天都去看训练。我不知道没有乔丹·麦克劳克林 (Jordan McLaughlin) 他们是怎么挺过来的。乔丹·麦克劳克林也休战了。自我们上次播客以来,这些球员的状况有什么最新进展?我想德文·瓦塞尔应该不是真的有伤病困扰吧?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :是的,是的,赛前我确实问了米奇关于德文的情况,因为他是那个没有明确伤病报告的球员,基本上就是健康原因轮休。米奇说他们在训练中拼得太凶了,所以有些球员就是要轮休。我报道马刺的每个季前赛都是这样。球员们不会打满每一场比赛。他们认为德文……我被告知可以期待德文在周三对阵迈阿密的比赛中上场。唯一一个自我们上次播客以来的更新是,你和汤姆在那期节目里其实已经提到了,但我亲耳从马刺工作人员那里听到的消息是,迪伦·哈珀的恢复进度似乎有点超前,如果他在这轮季前赛结束前登场亮相,那一点都不会让人意外。所以,我关于这些球员的所有更新中,这真的是唯一一个积极的消息。其他人的情况都差不多。我猜上次我们聊的时候斯蒂芬·卡斯尔还没受伤,但他和维克托撞到了膝盖。只是有些酸痛。他们也完全不担心这会有长期影响。目前唯一一个看起来可能缺席有意义的比赛的球员就是福克斯。所以这就是他们目前的情况。

迈克·芬格 :凯利·奥利尼克 (Kelly Olynyk) 呢?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :嗯,这是个好问题,因为他没怎么活动。他四月份刚做了脚跟手术。而且……我被告知他刚有了个孩子,我当时觉得这可是个大新闻,他可能是史上第一个有孩子的NBA球员。嗯……像是我们应该做一个专题报道。但后来有人告诉我,不……我甚至不知道你这个笑话是什么意思。我甚至不知道你想表达什么,但你继续说吧。我被告知的原话是,“凯利·奥利尼克仍在恢复调整中,而且他刚有了个孩子。”所以我当时就,“哇。”然后我被告知,实际上是,你知道,他的妻子或伴侣生了个孩子。哦,我明白了。所以是女士生的。总之,我不知道他是否能准备好。我不知道。他们也不需要他。他们有科内特在内线冲撞。那会很棒的。

迈克·芬格 :我昨天出门了。有时候我也会从我的象牙塔里爬出来,和大众交流一下。我跟一位《马刺内幕》的听众聊了聊,一位忠实的听众,很喜欢这个节目。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :不用明说你去看你妈了,大家也懂。

迈克·芬格 :不,不是。但……他问到了马刺今年选的第二个球员。他说,“你们在播客里怎么不怎么聊那个家伙?”我想了想,也许我们确实没怎么聊,但有些人确实有这个问题:卡特·布莱恩特到底怎么样?我们今年能对他有什么期待?他昨晚在表演赛上场了。赛后我们和这位年轻人聊了聊,卡特·布莱恩特,一次非常愉快的采访。嗯……你觉得,我知道这个问题的答案,我也知道你马上要给所有想看更多卡特·布莱恩特的人泼冷水了,但为了在这个播客里留下记录,你就给大家说说,我们今年能对这位来自亚利桑那大学的年轻人有什么期待?他的状况如何?对他应该有什么样的现实期望?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我不会完全泼冷水。我确实认为在赛季初的NBA赛场上我们不会经常看到他。我认为他需要努力去争取那个位置。但昨晚坐在场边看他移动,他身上确实有很多值得喜欢的地方。首先你得记住,就像很多刚进联盟的新秀一样,他才19岁。他现在的身体,虽然已经是一副NBA级别的身材,但还会继续变得更壮、更强。你可以看到他的骨架,再加上他那超凡的运动能力和防守心态。他会成长,肌肉会更发达,力量会更强,他会成为一头猛兽。这能转化成什么……但他会成为一个能飞天遁地的身体怪兽。而且我认为,当他达到那个程度时,你可以用一个能飞天遁地还爱防守的身体怪兽做很多文章。所以我绝对能看到他在这支球队中找到自己的角色,也许不是赛季第一个月,也许不是整个新秀赛季,也许他整个新秀赛季的表现会时好时坏。但当你把眼光放到未来几个赛季,我能明白为什么球队对他如此兴奋。

迈克·芬格 :我对此有点不同的看法,我认为他的身体、运动能力和身体天赋比他的比赛经验更接近NBA级别。我的意思是,他的身体素质会变得更好,他会变得更壮,但他现在的这副身体……用“身体”这个词有点奇怪。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我同意。

迈克·芬格 :公开档案吧。他的身体条件现在就已经准备好了。不是说他需要……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我就是这个意思,他已经有了那样的身材。

迈克·芬格 :他的身体条件已经具备了。但他在大学篮球的唯一一个赛季,在亚利桑那大学,他不是首发,上场时间也不多。我记得他场均大概20分钟。他连半场比赛的时间都没打满。他在大学场均上场时间连半场都不到。所以从比赛经验的角度来看,他还没有为NBA做好准备。就像当年凯尔登·约翰逊、德章泰·穆雷 (Dejounte Murray)、德里克·怀特 (Derrick White)、朗尼·沃克 (Lonnie Walker) 那些首轮中后段的新秀一样,他们会在G联赛统治一年,然后在第二年准备好迎来巨大飞跃。我认为他很可能也在走这条路,特别是考虑到这支球队在健康时的阵容深度。如果……如果开赛夜所有人都没准备好,他可能会在对阵达拉斯的比赛中首发,从而证明我错了。但如果你看看马刺队全员健康时的阵容深度表,卡特·布莱恩特前面大概有11个人,这么说公平吗?根本没有他的位置。我认为,一旦G联赛赛季开始,去奥斯汀多打比赛对他会大有裨益。G联赛赛季不会和NBA赛季同时开始。但对于那个问题——“我们今年能看到卡特·布莱恩特有什么表现?”——我认为现实的期望是,他是一个球队绝对看好的球员,可能会因为其他球员的伤病而零星获得一些上场时间。我认为他会在奥斯汀打球,这对他也很好。到赛季末,他可能就准备好进入轮换阵容了。可以肯定的是,我认为球队是着眼于下个赛季,才会真正指望他的防守、三分投射、运动能力等等所有这些东西。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :YouTube的评论区肯定要炸了。

迈克·芬格 :好吧……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :你应该说他将挑战NBA年度最佳新秀。你本该这么说的。

迈克·芬格 :我觉得这不会发生,抱歉。另外,你是那个监控YouTube评论的人,昨晚坐在霜岸中心的场边,某个球员失误后,杰夫看着我说,他想第二天早上整个播客都用来谈论那个球员。我现在就给你这个机会,因为我可不想承受那些反弹。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我不说了。不,因为这感觉像是在落井下石。没事的,没事的。

迈克·芬格 :我们不提了。有些听众会知道我们在说谁。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我要说的是我当初马刺考虑签下这家伙时说的话。签下大卫·琼斯·加西亚 (David Jones Garcia) 是一次非常好的双向合同利用。没错。他……他绝对是那种你应该用双向合同签下的球员。夏天那些他会首发或者进入轮换的炒作,我们早就知道是夸大其词,现在依然是。但我不想穷追猛打。他会成为一个不错的……

迈克·芬格 :我……我不该这么做的。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :他会成为一个非常非常棒的G联赛双向合同球员,也许能在NBA获得一些零星的上场时间,这完全符合我们的预期。所以,是的。我之前反应过度了。你跟我说的那些YouTube评论没什么可羞愧的,我,你知道的……而且,就像你说的,双向合同球员的很好利用。他们所有的双向合同球员,大概都符合你对双向合同球员的期望。但是,说回卡特,他的体格就像一个NBA球员。我……而且,我想起科怀·伦纳德 (Kawhi Leonard) 刚来的时候,我觉得科怀当时还大一岁。在我看来,卡特新秀赛季的骨架比科怀当时更接近NBA级别。然后我们看到了科怀这些年成长成了什么样子。我不是说篮球技术层面,我只是说他变成了一个人形猛兽。我认为卡特·布莱恩特也能做到。

迈克·芬格 :是的。而且,又是一个……我知道听众不关心这个,但这是一次很棒的采访。学到了一些东西。有时候,向球员提的问题会带有一些引导性。我喜欢球员不按提问者可能希望的方向回答。昨晚就有一个问题,当卡特盛赞维克托,并用一些精彩的描述形容维克托在训练中和各种场合做的疯狂事情时,有人问他,维克托是不是那种让你觉得,偶尔让你的对位球员过掉你也无所谓的人?你知道,这种夸张的说法是人们对维克托的正常期待。是啊,你可以让你的对位球员过去,有他在后面你高枕无忧。但卡特说,“哦不,你永远不想让你的对位球员击败你,不管身后站着谁。你不想把那个责任推给维克托。”我觉得这是一个新秀该有的很酷的心态。这……这是每个球员都会想的,你知道,你永远不想让对手过掉你。但他看起来是个很有趣的家伙。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我也很喜欢他见到波波(Pop)时那种纯粹的喜悦。

迈克·芬格 :是啊。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :谈到那个。顺便说一句,波波前几天出现在了投篮训练场。嗯,你知道,这位篮球运营总裁在……

迈克·芬格 :El Hefe (大老板)。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :……我们能看到的地方露面了,他就在训练馆里,和包括卡特·布莱恩特在内的不同球员交谈。卡特当时的样子,非常……非常可爱,他那种敬畏之情。他说了一句我们都知道是事实的话。但他说出来就像……“那家伙在我有生之年一直都是马刺队的主教练。”这是事实。这是事实。就像……

迈克·芬格 :卡特出生前……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :而且还早了十年呢。他是在卡特出生前十年开始执教的。

迈克·芬格 :我想在卡特出生前,波波可能已经拿了两个总冠军了。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :可能三个?不,不可能三个。两个是肯定的。卡特大概是2005年出生的。如果我没……我手头没资料。但这让我感觉自己越来越老了。嗯……但是,是的,卡特说他很震惊波波竟然知道他的名字。这让我笑得不行,因为在波波执教生涯的末期,他经常在媒体日开玩笑说,当他是教练时,他会说,“我根本不认识这些家伙的名字。”你知道,那些训练营受邀球员和双向合同球员。他总是带着一丝狡黠说这话,但这真的很……我觉得听到这个很棒,因为很高兴知道,那位大老板仍然在参与其中,负起责任,并参与到让这一切继续下去的过程中。嗯,对于大家来说,听到他如此投入应该是个好消息。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :卡特·布莱恩特出生于2005年11月26日。

迈克·芬格 :那么是……三个总冠军?两个。那应该是……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :不是三个,你说得对。你说得对。

迈克·芬格 :在他出生前赢了三个总冠军。我想我们……尼克,我们现在就结束播客吧。以后你一个人说就行了。你是年轻人。呃……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我可不是年轻人。

迈克·芬格 :哦,那很老了。我想让尼克也参与进来。他负责体育部门,做得非常出色,把我们都管得井井有条。你想告诉听众我们下周有个大活动吗?让那些可能想有机会在网上向伟大的杰夫·麦克唐纳现场提问,然后被杰夫无情吐槽的人了解一下。告诉大家我们有什么安排。

尼克·塔尔博特 :我觉得你描述得非常完美。你有机会向杰夫提问,然后让他在网上无情地吐槽。我想这大概是对杰夫·麦克唐纳人生最准确的描述了。

迈克·芬格 :时间和地点是什么时候?大家怎么才能了解更多信息?

尼克·塔尔博特 :好的。大家可以在……了解更多信息。

迈克·芬格 :在本期播客的简介里?

尼克·塔尔博特 :在本期播客的简介里。希望我们的制作人蒙蒂会把链接放在那里。时间是10月17日下午1点,我记得是。

迈克·芬格 :嗯,是我们的……那是个周五,中部时间下午1点。

尼克·塔尔博特 :那是个周五,没错,我记得是在他们打步行者队之前。所以如果……

迈克·芬格 :在一场主场季后赛?

尼克·塔尔博特 :我们会在演播室。主场季后赛。在演播室。主场……主场季后赛……主场季前赛。抱歉。

迈克·芬格 :我们会在演播室。是的。哦是的,主场那个。

尼克·塔尔博特 :我们将……我们将不会在一个未公开的地点,因为我们会在我们的演播室。而且你将能够亲眼看到迈克·芬格和杰夫·麦克唐纳长什么样,不管你想不想看。

迈克·芬格 :有视频。汤姆·奥斯本也会在。汤姆·奥斯本会在。尼克会负责收集问题。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :告诉汤姆别穿短裤。他得穿长裤。我们不想……希望我们有桌子挡着,这样就看不到腿了。

迈克·芬格 :不,会有的……

尼克·塔尔博特 :他们有……我们有一张漂亮的新桌子。非常……非常漂亮,杰夫。我知道你大概有七年没来办公室了。

迈克·芬格 :老听众会记得我们以前做过几次这样的活动。总是很有趣。大概一个小时。再次提醒,10月17日周五下午1点。这将是一个线上的Zoom活动。你可以提前报名。而且,我想当天也可以,进入Zoom,在Zoom上提问。我们会尽量回答尽可能多的问题。真的为新赛季的开始感到兴奋,可以再次报道有意义的篮球比赛了。我希望听众们也有同样的感觉。那应该会是一场很棒的活动。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :是17号下午1点。

迈克·芬格 :中部时间17号下午1点。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :好的。我现在就把它加到我的日历里,免得忘了。

迈克·芬格 :好的。应该会很不错。嗯,是的,从现在到那时还会有几场表演赛。汤姆负责报道迈阿密的那场。周五犹他爵士会来主场。然后是对阵步行者队的两场比赛,一场在印第安纳,一场回到圣安东尼奥,之后赛季就开始了。而且杰夫,你提到迪伦·哈珀有可能在其中一场比赛中上场,那将是一件大事。在这个季前赛剩下的赛程里,你还有什么在关注的,你认为可能……可能对常规赛产生影响的事情,或者马刺在接下来一两周内需要完成的任何事情吗?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :哦,我,天哪,我这周晚些时候要去印第安纳波利斯。我只希望别闹出什么洋相。

迈克·芬格 :哦天哪。哦天哪。是的。你不住那家酒店吧?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :不,不,但我不知道印第安纳波利斯原来是这么一个有趣的城市。我不知道在印第安纳波利斯竟然有可能惹上麻烦。

迈克·芬格 :昨天还是前天,我在Blue Sky上看到一条评论,我觉得我们……我们喜欢用人生建议来结束播客。那条评论是关于,“我努力以一种‘永远不会因自己被捅而遭逮捕’的方式生活。”而且,我觉得这……我觉得这是一个很好的生活观。一个很好的……每天醒来的方式。今天,不要因为自己被捅而遭逮捕。我想如果我们都这样生活,世界会变得更美好。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :说实话,我……说实话,我惊讶这竟然不是维克托的名言。

迈克·芬格 :他可能会想出这样的话。维克托……维克托就是这样生活的。他……他奉行那种哲学。我不认为维克托会因为自己被捅而遭逮捕。嗯,但是,是的,在印第安纳波利斯要小心。别……小心那些NFL的解说员。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我到那里的时候正好是周日,所以……

迈克·芬格 :哦,小马队在主场?

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :是的,小马队在主场。他们可能需要派国民警卫队来保护我们免受那些解说员的伤害。

迈克·芬格 :是的,那可是……现在城市里最大的威胁之一就是NFL的解说员,据我所知。嗯,维克托怎么样?你觉得……在剩下的四场季前赛里,你觉得他会打几场?猜个大小。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :你把盘口设在多少,然后我来选?

迈克·芬格 :嗯,好吧,我说2.5场。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :啊,这个盘口开得很好。我本来希望你说个别的数。

迈克·芬格 :我开盘口很准的。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我选小,我认为他会再打两场。

迈克·芬格 :好的。总共三场。我觉得这很合理。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :这纯粹是瞎猜。纯粹瞎猜。

迈克·芬格 :迪伦·哈珀季前赛上场次数,0.5场,猜大小。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :呃,0.5,所以你问的是,他会不会打一场?会。嗯哼。嗯哼。我选大。

迈克·芬格 :大小……

尼克·塔尔博特 :两个都选大。

迈克·芬格 :两个都选大,尼克?斯蒂芬·卡斯尔上场次数,2.5场,猜大小。

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :呃,小。我们这是在推广赌博吗?

迈克·芬格 :我想我不该这么做。你说得对。只是……

杰夫·麦克唐纳 :我……我现在就把这些都加到我的串关里。所以……是的。总之,不,这些都是值得关注的。我想我们会看到斯蒂芬·卡斯尔打几场比赛,维克托打几场。德文·瓦塞尔肯定会上场。我认为他完全没有伤病困扰。我们还漏了谁?嗯……谁昨晚没打?我想我们会看到乔丹·麦克劳克林打几场比赛,那应该会很好。我认为这支球队有很多看点。我想昨晚的比赛就提醒了观众,一支围绕文班亚马建队的球队能有多么有趣。我们有七个半月的时间差不多忘了这一点。这将会很激动人心。我们期待下周五能有尽可能多的人参加我们的Zoom活动。下次再见之前,请大家互相照顾,保持真实。[音乐渐入]

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Return of the Wembanyama

Columnist Mike Finger and Spurs beat reporter Jeff McDonald discuss Victor Wembanyama’s return to the court as the Spurs held their first preseason game Monday. The duo also debate what impact Carter Bryant will have this season.

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Mike Finger: [music fades in] From a highly secure network of top-secret locations across South Texas, this is the Spurs Insider. The preseason is underway, the regular season is coming, the gang is together. I’m Mike Finger, joined by Express News Spurs beat writer Jeff McDonald and sports editor Nick Talbott. Now, I said the gang was together, but we’re missing Tom Orsborn who is traveling across the country with the San Antonio Spurs to Miami as we speak. We’re going to try to soldier on without him.

We are recording this the morning after the preseason opener, the long awaited return of Victor Wembanyama to the Frost Bank Center court in uniform. He had a scrimmage over the weekend. He just tormented an exhibition team from China last night. Jeff, you were courtside watching the return of Victor, not necessarily with the Spurs gang being back together, a lot of people in street clothes. But it was nice to see the big fella back. Announced at 7’4" by the way. He’s added an inch on the, on the Spurs roster and the 7’4" fella from from France is back. What did you think about his his his first big game action in seven and a half months?

Jeff McDonald: We we have me and Victor have something in common. He added, he added an inch to his height over the, over the off season and I added an inch to my waistline.

Mike Finger: That’s, that’s pretty good.

Jeff McDonald: So…

Mike Finger: That’s pretty good. We’re both growing.

Jeff McDonald: I think the, the listeners out there are probably more interested in whatever the measurement is that he added maybe around not necessarily his waistline, but his biceps, his shoulders, his thighs. There’s been a lot of talk about how he’s this new muscular fella. I got to be honest, from my vantage point, he still does not look like, you know, Yanis, Dwight Howard. Um, and I, you know, I I I’m convinced that he did do the offseason workout and he is stronger, but he’s still a slender fella. But, uh, still a really fun fella to watch play basketball.

Jeff McDonald: Yeah, he went from being the most interesting man in the world during the summer, doing all his kung fu and, uh, uh, various, uh, you know, trips around the world. Now he’s just back to being the most interesting man on the basketball floor. Like, it really is, was was the takeaway from both the scrimmage and the, uh, and the, uh, preseason game last night was just all this interesting stuff that that Victor is doing and that the Spurs are doing around Victor.

Um, in the scrimmage, he did use that bulk a little bit. Like one of the viral clips was him just ramming into new teammate Luke Kornet on his way to just a vicious dunk in the intrasquad scrimmage. Um, and Kornet by the way is they signed him because he’s one of the best rim defenders in the league, and, and, uh, Wemby just bullied him on that play that and that everyone saw. And then last night in the game, two things stood out to me about Wemby. One was him working with Luke Kornet running pick and rolls with Wemby as the 7’4" ball handler, and just how that two-man game and how great it looked, um, you know, the first nine out. Now, granted, they were playing a team of Chinese guys that were, they didn’t have anybody to match up with either of those two players. Against NBA competition, it might be a little, a little tougher, but, um, Kornet did have some good moments with Porzingis last year in Boston playing together. So I think that combination is going to be fun to watch when they’re on the floor together, Victor and, uh, Luke.

And also, the thing that stood out to me is, you know, last year, we were never on the, um, Victor should never shoot threes bandwagon. A lot of some people were, like, he’s 7’4", he should just be in the paint. He shouldn’t shoot seven threes a game. Well, last night, Victor took one three-pointer, um, with like 2:50 left in the first half. He only played a half, so it was basically at the very end of his stint, took it and make it, made, took a three-pointer and made it. Other than that, he was, um, turning those down to pump fake out of them, to drive the paint, to dish to Julian Champagnie for threes. And that was an interesting change in philosophy to me, or a change in focus to me. And if he’s going to be that kind of playmaker, um, it’s going to be a really interesting Victor Wembanyama season.

Mike Finger: I think that, uh, I agree with you on, on that noteworthy development. I think there have been stretches before where he’s gone away from it and I would almost bet everything that I have that there are going to be games when he shoots eight to 10 of them again. Like he’s not going to abandon that part of his game. That’s a, that’s something that he takes pride in. It’s not just a vanity type of deal either where he thinks he’s a three-point shooter. That’s what unlocks the, the alien in him, right? That’s or that’s a piece of what unlocks the alien is that that he’s 7’4" and can make those threes. And he is not going to have a Dwight Howard body ever. He’s never going to be just a pure post player. Um, and so those three-pointers are going to come. But you are right in that if he can go through stretches where he really focuses on the other stuff, and in talking to Mitch Johnson after that game last night, you know, the one play that he brought up was not the just otherworldly dunk/fast break assist, which I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like, where he dunks where he, uh, not dunk, block, where he where he blocks a a Chinese player’s shot into the backboard, which starts a fast break that like immediately turns into a Keldon Johnson fast break bucket. Uh, if you haven’t seen that online, you can probably find it.

Um, Mitch didn’t bring that up. He brought up a play where he, Victor, was on a dribble drive, turned, and in the words of Mitch Johnson, made a chest pass that anybody in this room could have made. I think he was looking. He’s never seen me play though. I think Mitch was looking at Jeff McDonald when he said that. He’s he’s giving me a little, he’s giving me a little too much credit, I think. Mitch said anybody in the room could, room full of sports writers and and camera guys could have, uh, could have made this chest pass to Julian Champagnie for a three. And that’s what stood out to him is Victor understanding situations and understanding how to get people involved and understanding that he can make things easy, not just by doing it himself, but by relying on his teammates. And the, the quote that was in the triple take, that which which which is returned to expressnews.com, the the the the take, three takeaways from every game that Jeff wrote with his three Diet Cokes last night. If you want to look that up, find one of my favorite Victor quotes that I’ve heard. And and the more I thought about this, the more brilliant it is. I don’t know if he borrowed it from somebody, but Jeff, it was in your triple take. Do do you know it off the top of your head?

Jeff McDonald: You’re gonna turn down a shot I can make with my eyes closed. You’re going to make me, you’re going to make me look it up, I think, because I want to make sure I get it right. You know?

Mike Finger: Well, I’m pretty sure it was, I’ve I’ve learned that I can, I can turn down a shot that I could make with my eyes closed. Oh, the Lord. Well, do you have it or not?

Jeff McDonald: Well, I’m trying. You’re just being quick. This is dead air. We’re losing listeners.

Mike Finger: Keep talking, I’ll find it. Okay. Well…

Jeff McDonald: All right. He go, he goes, uh, you know, he goes, I, I, you know, basically I probably turned down a shot that I could make with my eyes closed, but that was to get one of my teammates a shot he could make in his sleep.

Mike Finger: How great is that? That’s a quote. It was, uh…

Jeff McDonald: Someone, someone on social media said it’s like, uh, good to great but literary.

Mike Finger: Yeah. Yeah. I I turned down a shot I could make with my eyes closed for a shot that a teammate could make in his sleep in your, in his second language. Pretty good.

It reminded me of, um, this is where we’re going to really lose people here, and I don’t have this off the top of my head either, but there was a TV show back when people watched TV on, uh, about the, uh, the, the, the West Wing, it was called, I think, The West Wing. And, um, the there was a a story about dealing with foreign diplomats and there was a, an idiom that the diplomat used about, why should we have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world twice over, isn’t once enough? And this was a key plot point in this particular, um, episode because it showed that, uh, it was not the diplomat who was speaking but someone with a command of the English language understood it. I can’t believe I wasted everybody’s time with that. But it made me think of that when when I heard Victor give, provide such a perfect metaphor, such a perfect quote in his second language. He blows me away on and off the court. This is not breaking news.

Jeff McDonald: You know what that was part of a very long Victor answer that was pretty illuminating too. Um, on that topic of, I mean, the specific question was asking about that, those couple of plays where he had a three and I’m just used to him taking those. I’ve just gotten used to him if it’s open, he takes it. He had a three, pump faked his defender, got moving towards the paint, and and dished to Julian for a three. Um, and he gave a long answer about why he’s looking to do that this year. And part of it was him realizing he, he, I mean, there, he’s got, um, a bad shot for Victor is still a good shot sometimes. Like he can still make those. So he’s figured out I can get a shot, a shot, anytime I want. With 21 seconds on the shot clock or two seconds on the shot clock. So why don’t we try as a team to find a a better one, an open one, and if it comes down to it, I can still take that same contested shot with two seconds left on the on the on the clock. Like he can he can get a shot off at his size and his skill at any point in the shot clock. So why take, why take a, he can get that same three later. So why take it then when you might be able to get Julian Champagnie for just a wide open one?

Mike Finger: Which again, isn’t like a revolutionary idea. This is something that basketball coaches have preached for years and years and years, but to hear him say it in exactly that way last night. I think that’s, you’re, you’re, you’re basically quoting what he said. I think it was, I can get a fadeaway jumper, a contested fadeaway jumper with 21 seconds on the shot clock. Um, there’s no reason for for him to take it before two seconds on the shot clock.

Jeff McDonald: We have, we have 24 seconds to find the best solution.

Mike Finger: We have 24 seconds to find. He’s incredible. Just forget all the, the crazy stuff on the court. Like, he fills up a 10-minute press conference with so many quotable quotes. It’s, it’s really, really good.

Um, and but, but but the, the point for the listeners who care about is, is this team finally going to start winning again? Is, is he going to put this stuff into practice? And is this going to make the team better? And again, this is an exhibition team, an exhibition opponent from China that featured Victor Oladipo and Frank the Tank Kaminsky and not a whole lot else. Um, but you, you had to, you had to be encouraged if you’re a Spurs fan by just the signs of, first of all, that Victor was out there on the court playing a basketball game in uniform with basketball rules and basketball sort of speed. And you didn’t worry about something terrible happening. At least I, you know, I, I don’t think that anybody, any fans were worried. I don’t think Victor was worried. I don’t think any coaches were worried about, oh, is is he going to hold up? He just looked like Victor. And that’s a huge, huge thing for, for him and for this whole program. So.

Jeff McDonald: And I think, I think we learned the Spurs could probably win the Chinese league too.

Mike Finger: Maybe. We don’t know if that’s the best team in the Chinese league, but…

Jeff McDonald: Yeah. I do think Victor’s probably one of, would be one of the two or three best players in the Chinese league.

Mike Finger: I thought now you’re now you’re trying for these hot takes trying to get us attention. The Spurs did, they did not cover. Well, we don’t. You can. I’m not involved in this nonsense.

Shout out to, uh, longtime, uh, friends of the podcast, Paul Garcia and Matthew Tynan, who were in the closing stages of this huge exhibition game. One of them was sick enough to have looked up what the, uh, point spread was for the a preseason game featuring the San Antonio Spurs, the San Antonio Spurs team playing a bunch of exhibit 10 guys and uh, and two-way guys against an exhibition team or a team from China. And they looked it up and it was 35 and a half, which, who’s, who’s betting on this? And uh, and at the time they brought this up, the Spurs were uh, were leading by 35 in the last minute of the game. And then things did not go well for the home team. They did not cover. So uh, there there there was talk that maybe there was a scandal there, that maybe the game was fixed, but uh, I think the NBA have it has its hands full with the Kawhi situation. We don’t need to be starting another investigation for Pablo Torre. I think that evidence of Pablo Torre, baby. Uh huh.

But man, who, if you’re out there and you bet on that game, like, uh, get, touch some grass, man.

Jeff McDonald: What was, what was, what did De’Aaron Fox say on media day? You know that number at the bottom of the screen, 1-800, get help or whatever. You need to dial that.

Mike Finger: That’s right. That’s a good segue to the guys who did not play last night. Uh, we’ve we’re a week into training camp and I know there’s there’s fury out there. There’s concern. There’s there’s there’s panic in the streets because not only is De’Aaron Fox not playing, not only did did the starting point guard not play last night, but Stefon Castle sat out, Devin Vassell sat out. Which other important guys are, Dylan Harper sat out. Um, just for the listeners, Jeff, you’ve been going to practice every day. I don’t know how they survived without Jordan McLaughlin. Jordan McLaughlin sat out. What, what is the rundown? What is the update since our last podcast on the status of all those guys? I don’t think Devin Vassell is a true uh, injury concern, right?

Jeff McDonald: Yeah. Yeah, I did ask Mitch about Devin before the game because he was the one that didn’t really have an injury designation. He was just kind of a healthy scratch. And Mitch said they’re just beating the crap out of each other in practice and some of these guys are just going to, they’re going to get rested. And it’s been this way for every preseason I’ve ever covered with the Spurs. Guys don’t play in every game. They they think Devin’s, I’ve been told Devin can be expected to play in Miami, um, on Wednesday. The one, the one updates since the last time uh, we we convened on the podcast, which you you and Tom kind of already alluded to on that one, but I’ve I heard it with my own ears from people that worked for the Spurs is that Dylan Harper seems to be a little bit ahead of the time table and it would actually not be a surprise at all if he makes some preseason appearances before this slate is over. So really, the only update I have uh, on all those guys is a positive one. Everybody else is about the same. I guess Stefon Castle was not hurt the last time we talked, but he banged his knees with Victor. It’s just sore. They’re not, there’s no long-term worry about that at all either. Um, and the only guy right now that seems doubtful for like games that count is Fox. So that’s where they stand with that.

Mike Finger: How about Kelly Olynyk?

Jeff McDonald: Um, that’s a good question since he hasn’t done much. He’s coming off a heel surgery in the in April. And uh, I was told he also had a baby, which I thought that’s a huge, he’s probably the first NBA player to ever have a baby. Um, like that, that’s a story we should do. But then I was told no, I don’t even know what that joke means. I don’t even know what you’re trying to get at there, but go ahead. That was the exact quote I was told. Kelly Olynyk is still ramping up and also he had a baby. So I was like, wow. Then I was told it was actually, you know, a, you know, his wife or partner had a baby. Oh, I see. So the lady. So anyway, I don’t know if he’ll be ready. I don’t know. They don’t need him. They got Cornet just banging around in there. It’s going to be great.

Mike Finger: I was out in the world yesterday. Sometimes I do climb out of my ivory tower and mingle with the masses. And I uh, was talking to a a Spurs Insider listener, an avid Spurs Insider listener, enjoys the show.

Jeff McDonald: Tell me you visited your mom’s house without telling me you visited your mom’s house.

Mike Finger: No, it was not. Um, but uh, the he uh, he asked about the the second player the Spurs drafted this year. And he, did you guys talked about that guy much on the podcast? And I thought about, maybe we haven’t, but that’s that’s that’s a question that some people have is what’s the deal with Carter Bryant? What can we expect from Carter Bryant this year? He he played in the exhibition game last night. Uh, we had got to talk with the young man afterwards, a delightful interview, Carter Bryant. Um, what what do you, I know the answer to this and I know you’re about to throw cold water on everybody who wants to see more Carter Bryant, but what what just just run down for the sake of posterity on this podcast, what can we expect from the young fella from Arizona this year? What’s his status and and what should be realistic expectations for him?

Jeff McDonald: I’m I’m not going to throw complete cold water on it. I do think he’s not a guy that we’re going to see a lot of on the NBA floor at the beginning of the season. I think that’s something he’s going to have to work up to. But just sitting there courtside last night watching him move, there is a lot to like there. Um, and you start with the fact you got to remember with with as it is with a lot of these rookies coming in, he’s 19 years old. Like the body he’s in now, which is already an NBA body, is going to, you know, get bigger and stronger. Like you can just see that the the frame he’s got to go with that just otherworldly athleticism he’s got and that defensive um, mentality he’s got. Um, he’s going to grow and get more muscular and stronger and he’s going to be a beast. What what that translates into, but he’s going to be a physical beast who can jump out of the gym. And I think I think when he gets to that point, you can you can work a lot with uh, physical beasts who jump out of the gym and play defense. So I I definitely see where he can find a role on this team, maybe not the first month of the season, maybe not his whole rookie year, maybe he’s hit or miss his whole rookie year. But when you’re projecting this out seasons down the line, I I can see why they’re excited about him.

Mike Finger: I would quibble a little bit with that in in that I think his body, athleticism, physical abilities are more NBA ready than just the experience part of it. Like I think I think the physical stuff is going to get better. He’s going to get bigger, but that that body right now, and I it’s sort of off putting to refer to a body.

Jeff McDonald: I agree.

Mike Finger: Release the files. The the physical tools are ready right now. It’s not he needs to get.

Jeff McDonald: That’s what I was getting at, like he’s got the body.

Mike Finger: The physical tools for that. He’s he’s a guy who, um, in college basketball, his only season of college basketball at Arizona, did not start and did not play. I I I think he averaged 20 minutes a game. Like he didn’t play even half a game. Um, he didn’t average half a half a game in college. Like he is just the the the the readiness to play NBA basketball from just a game experience standpoint just isn’t there yet. And like the days of Keldon Johnson, Dejounte Murray, Derrick White, Lonnie Walker, all those all those late first round picks, mid to late first round picks over the years who would dominate the G League for a year and then kind of be poised to take that huge leap in his second year. I think that he’s probably on that track, especially considering all the depth this team has when it’s healthy. Like if if everybody, he he could prove me wrong if none of these guys are ready to go on opening night and he could start out there against Dallas. But if you look at the Spurs depth chart when everybody’s healthy, there are probably 11 guys ahead of Carter Bryant, is that fair to say? And there’s just not room for him. And I think that he’s a guy who would get a lot of benefit from getting those reps up in Austin once that G League season starts. It won’t it won’t start when the NBA season starts. But realistic for for the question out there, what are we going to see from Carter Bryant this year? I think that he’s a guy who they’re definitely excited about, might see some sporadic action here and there because of injuries to other guys. I think he’s going to play in Austin and I think that’ll be great for him. And uh, by the end of the year, he might be ready to to move into the rotation. For sure, I think they’re looking at next season for for them to really count on his defense, his three-point shooting, athleticism, all that stuff.

Jeff McDonald: The YouTube comments are just going to be brutal.

Mike Finger: Well…

Jeff McDonald: You’re supposed to say that he’s he’s going to challenge for Rookie of the Year in the NBA. That’s what you’re supposed to say.

Mike Finger: I don’t think that’s going to happen. I’m sorry. And also while you’re you’re the one who monitors the YouTube comments and sitting uh, court side last night at the Frost Bank Center, Jeff looked over at me after a certain player committed to turnover and and said he wanted to spend the whole podcast the next morning talking about one player in particular. And I’m going to give you the chance to do it because I don’t I don’t want the blowback.

Jeff McDonald: I’m not going to. No, because it feels like piling on. It’s fine. It’s fine.

Mike Finger: We won’t do it. Some listeners will know who we’re talking about.

Jeff McDonald: What I’m what I’m going to what I’m going to say is what I said when the Spurs first entertained signing this guy. It’s a very good use of a two-way contract to sign David Jones Garcia. Correct. He is he is he is absolutely the kind of guy that you signed to a two-way contract. Um, the summertime hype where he’s going to start or be in the rotation, we knew was overblown and it’s still overblown. But I don’t want to pile on the guy. Like he’s going to be a fine…

Mike Finger: I I shouldn’t have I shouldn’t have done that.

Jeff McDonald: He’s going to be an amazing, amazing G League two-way guy who can maybe get some spot minutes in the NBA, which is exactly what we what we thought he was. So yeah. I was being too reactive. No shame in what you took, what you told me about the YouTube comments, which I, you know, uh, and and uh, I’m sure like you said, great use of a two-way guy. Uh, all their all their two-way guys are uh, probably exactly what you expect from a two-way guy. So, but going back to Carter, he’s built like an NBA player. I and and, um, like I think about when Kawhi came in, I think Kawhi was a year older too. Carter looks his his his frame is more NBA ready to me as a rookie than even Kawhi’s was. And then we saw what Kawhi kind of grow grew into uh, over the years. I don’t mean I don’t necessarily mean basketball and skill-wise. I just mean he became just a beast of a human. And I think Carter Bryant can do the same.

Mike Finger: Yeah. And, and, uh, again, another guy who, I know the the listeners don’t care, but it’s great interview. Learn something there. There, um, sometimes questions asked of of players kind of lead them in a way. Um, and I enjoy when the players don’t go where the questioner might want them to go. Um, and there was a question last night about how uh, is Victor, you know, when Carter was raving about Victor and he had some great descriptions of just the crazy things that Victor does in practice and and all over the place. And there was a question about how is is he the type of guy who makes you feel okay about uh, about letting your guy go by you every now and then? You know, and that’s just the kind of, um, hyperbole that you’d expect someone to say about Victor. Yeah, you can let your guy go by, you’re going to be fine back there. And Carter said, oh no, you never want to let, you never want to let your man beat you, no matter who’s back there. You don’t want to put that on Victor. And I think that’s a cool mentality for a rookie to have. Um, it it it’s it’s sort of something that every player thinks, you know, you never want to let a guy get by you. But he’s seems like a really fun dude.

Jeff McDonald: I also enjoyed his, I enjoyed his his pure joy at getting to meet Pop.

Mike Finger: Yeah.

Jeff McDonald: Talking about that. Pop Pop by the way was at at shoot around the other day. Um, you know, he made the President of Basketball Operations made a appearance in front of the…

Mike Finger: El Hefe.

Jeff McDonald: Where we could where we could see him, like he was in the actual gym, uh, just kind of sitting there and talking to various players, including Carter Bryant and Carter kind of, it was very, it was very endearing how how just in awe he was. He he did say something that we know is true. It’s but it he like like that guy’s been the coach of the Spurs for my entire life. And it’s true. It’s true. Like…

Mike Finger: Carter wasn’t alive…

Jeff McDonald: Plus a decade, by the way. Like he started a decade before Carter was born.

Mike Finger: I think I think Pop might have had two championships before Carter was born.

Jeff McDonald: Possibly three? No, no way three. For sure two. Carter was probably born in in 2005. If I had to… I don’t have that in front of me. But that is that’s making me feel older by the second. Um, but yeah, Carter said that he he was shocked that Pop knew his name. And that may really made me laugh because towards the end of Pop’s career on media days, he’d often make the joke about how when Pop was a coach, Pop would come and say, I don’t know any of these guys’ names. You know, the the the camp invitees and the and the two-way guys. And he that was always said with a wink, but that was really, uh, I I think that was, I I enjoyed hearing that because it’s nice to know that, uh, that the that El Hefe is still engaged and taking ownership and and taking part in in keeping this thing going. Um, I think it’s good news for people to hear that he’s involved like that.

Jeff McDonald: Carter Bryant was born on November 26, 2005.

Mike Finger: So that’s what, three championships? Two. So that would have been…

Jeff McDonald: Not three, you’re right. You’re right.

Mike Finger: Three championships won before he was born. I think we’re going to, Nick, we’re going to quit the podcast right now. You can just talk from now. You’re you’re the young one. Uh…

Jeff McDonald: I’m not the young one.

Mike Finger: Oh very old then. I want to bring Nick into this. He’s he runs the sports department. He does a great job, uh, uh, keeping us all in line. And do you want to tell the listeners about the big event we have next week for people who might want to have the chance to ask the great Jeff McDonald a question live on the internet and have Jeff like just crap all over it and like like tell tell tell the people what what we’ve got going.

Nick Talbott: I think you’ve described it beautifully. You get to ask Jeff a question and have him crap all over it on the internet and I think that’s pretty much the most accurate thing of Jeff McDonald’s life.

Mike Finger: When and when and where is is it and how can people uh, find out more about it?

Nick Talbott: All right. Well, you can find out more about it, um…

Mike Finger: In the description?

Nick Talbott: In in the description for this podcast. Hopefully Monty our uh, uh, producer will have have that down there for us. And it is October 17th at 1:00 p.m., I believe.

Mike Finger: Uh, for our… That’s a Friday, 1:00 p.m. Central time.

Nick Talbott: That is that is a Friday right, I believe, right before they play the Pacers. So if…

Mike Finger: At a home playoff game?

Nick Talbott: We will be in studio. Home playoff game. In studio. Home home home postseason home preseason game. Excuse me.

Mike Finger: We will be in studio. Yeah. Oh yeah, home that.

Nick Talbott: We will we will be not at an undisclosed location for once because we’ll be in our studio. Uh, and you will actually be able to see what Mike Finger and Jeff McDonald look like whether you want to or not.

Mike Finger: Video. Tom Orsborn will be there. Tom Orsborn will be there. Nick will be taking questions.

Jeff McDonald: Tell Tom not to wear wear shorts though. He needs to wear long pants. We don’t want to get the hopefully we’ll get the desk thing so we won’t see the legs.

Mike Finger: No, it’ll be…

Nick Talbott: They have a, we have a nice new desk. Very, very nice, Jeff. I know you haven’t been in the office in like seven years.

Mike Finger: Longtime listeners will remember we’ve done a couple of these before. Uh, it’s always a fun time. We’ll it’ll be an hour, uh, or so. Again, 1:00 p.m. on Friday, October 17th. Uh, it’s it’ll be a live Zoom event. You can sign up in advance. Um, and, uh, and I think, I guess the day of, too, get on the Zoom, ask questions on the Zoom. We will try to take as many as we can. Really getting excited for the start of the season to to write about, uh, meaningful basketball again. And I I hope the listeners feel the same way. And that should be a good one.

Jeff McDonald: That’s 1:00 p.m. on the 17th.

Mike Finger: 1:00 p.m. Central Time on the 17th.

Jeff McDonald: Okay. I’m going to I’m going to add that to my calendar now so I don’t forget.

Mike Finger: Okay. Should be a good one. Um, yeah, and and between now and then there’re going to be a few more exhibition games. Tom has the one in Miami covered. Utah will be in town on Friday. Uh, and then a couple against the Pacers, one at Indiana and one back in San Antonio before the start of the season. And and Jeff, you mentioned there’s a possibility that Dylan Harper might play in one of those games, which would be a pretty big deal. Anything else that you’re monitoring the rest of this preseason schedule that you think, uh, might have a, uh, an an an impact, uh, in the regular season or any anything that the Spurs need to get done over the next week, week or two?

Jeff McDonald: Uh, oh, I, man, I’m I’m going to Indianapolis this uh, at the end of the week. I’m just hoping not to pull a Mark Sanchez.

Mike Finger: Oh boy. Oh boy. Yeah. You you are not staying at that hotel, are you?

Jeff McDonald: No, no, but I didn’t I didn’t know Indianapolis was such a fun town, apparently. I didn’t know you could it was possible to get into trouble in Indianapolis.

Mike Finger: On, uh, Blue Sky yesterday or the day before, I saw a, uh, a comment that I think we, we, we, you know, we like to close these podcasts with life advice. And, uh, there was a comment about, I I endeavor to live my life in a way that I’m never arrested for my own stabbing. And, and, uh, I think that’s, I think that’s a good kind of just life outlook. A good a good way to just wake up every day. Don’t, don’t, don’t get arrested for your own stabbing today. I I think the world would be a better place if we all live like that.

Jeff McDonald: I’m actually, I’m actually, I’m surprised it’s not a Victor quote.

Mike Finger: Something he would come up with. Victor, Victor lives that. He, he, he, he lives that philosophy. I don’t think Victor will ever be arrested for his own stabbing. Um, but yeah, be careful in Indianapolis. Don’t uh, watch out for any NFL broadcasters.

Jeff McDonald: I think that’s what, it is a, it is a Sunday when I get there, so…

Mike Finger: Oh, the Colts in town?

Jeff McDonald: Yeah, the Colts are in town. They might need to send the national guard to protect us from the broadcasters.

Mike Finger: Yeah, that’s that’s one of the biggest menaces in, in, in cities these days are NFL broadcasters from what I’ve, from what I gather. The, um, how about Victor? Do you how how over under on the number, there’s four preseason games remaining over under on how many you think he plays in?

Jeff McDonald: What are you going to set the over under at and then I’m supposed to pick?

Mike Finger: Uh, well, okay, I will say two and a half.

Jeff McDonald: Ah, that’s a good over under. I was hoping you’d say something else.

Mike Finger: I’m pretty good at over under setting.

Jeff McDonald: I’m gonna say under and I’m gonna say he plays in two, two more.

Mike Finger: Okay. So three total. I think that would make sense.

Jeff McDonald: It’s just a total guess. It’s a total guess.

Mike Finger: Over under a half a preseason game for Dylan Harper.

Jeff McDonald: Uh, a half, so you’re asking, will he play one? Yes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I’ll take the over there.

Mike Finger: Over under…

Nick Talbott: Both.

Mike Finger: Over under two and a half on, you’ll take the over on both, Nick? Over under two and a half on, um, Stefon Castle.

Jeff McDonald: Uh, under. Are we promoting gambling?

Mike Finger: I guess I shouldn’t do that. You’re right. It’s just…

Jeff McDonald: I’m I’m I’m putting all these into my parlay right now. So… Yeah. Anyway, uh, no, that’s that’s something to look for. I think we will see a couple of Stefon Castle games, a couple of Victor games. Devin Vassell’s definitely going to play. I don’t think there’s any injury concern there at all. Who else are we missing? Um, who didn’t play last night? I think we’re going to see some Jordan McLaughlin games and it should be good. I think there’s a lot of intrigue about this team. I think just the game last night reminded the viewers of how fun a team built around Victor Wembanyama can be. We had we had spent seven and a half months sort of forgetting that. It’s it’s going to be exciting. Uh, we look forward to having as many of you who can make it to the Zoom event next Friday. And until we see you next time, take care of each other and keep it real. [music fades in]