[PtR] 丹尼斯·罗伯逊舅舅是马刺队史头号大反派

By Marilyn Dubinski / Pounding The Rock, 2026-09-22 03:40:03

我们已经完成了2026年夏季专题评选——票选马刺队史头号大反派。结合当前的时间节点来看,最终结果其实一点也不令人意外,但我必须承认,这并不是我们在一个多月前刚萌生这个创意时我所预想的结果(下文会详述)。在整个系列投票中力压扎扎·帕楚利亚 (Zaza Pachulia)——这位面对马刺时球风最脏的球员——最终登顶的,正是对这支球队的衰落负有更大责任的那个人:臭名昭著的丹尼斯·罗伯逊 (Dennis Robertson)。他是科怀·伦纳德 (Kawhi Leonard) 的舅舅,也是毁灭了两支球队(可能还不止于此)的始作俑者。

“丹尼斯舅舅”第一次进入马刺球迷的视线是在2017-18赛季。当时令人震惊的流言开始四起,称伦纳德对球队感到不满,指责马刺误诊了他的股四头肌伤势——请注意,这伤病与帕楚利亚的那次犯规毫无关系——将其定性为慢性问题。球队允许他寻求外部医疗专家的诊断意见,于是他便前往纽约进行所谓的“康复训练”,期间几乎从未归队,甚至在马刺代表前来探望时躲进了衣橱。整个赛季中,各种负面报道不断流出,所有消息源都被统称为“科怀团队”,而我们很快便知道,这所谓的团队其实就是他当时的经纪人米奇·弗兰克尔 (Mitch Frankel) 以及他的舅舅兼代言人丹尼斯·罗伯逊。

随着流言持续发酵,媒体在方方面面似乎都站在科怀一边,马刺方面终于通过ESPN的迈克尔·C·莱特 (Michael C. Wright) 阐明了自己的立场。莱特在报道中写道:

据马刺消息人士透露,在伦纳德与(前经纪人布赖恩)埃尔弗斯 (Brian Elfus) 分道扬镳后,罗伯逊和弗兰克尔接管了与马刺的日常沟通,双方的关系远不如以往那般健康。

多位联盟消息人士还告诉ESPN,马刺越来越担心伦纳德的团队别有用心,意图破坏双方关系,从而促使伦纳德被交易到洛杉矶(伦纳德的家乡)、纽约或费城(罗伯逊定居在新泽西)等更大的球市。

到那时,谁在幕后操盘已经不言而喻,后来的事情大家也都知道了。(如果你真的想重新回顾2017-18赛季的那场完整闹剧,可以回去查阅事件的完整时间线。那只是我在PtR报道马刺的第二个赛季,我记得当时J.R. 威尔科 (J.R. Wilco) 把这个专题交给我时,我既深感荣幸又忐忑不安。但他的话极具先见之明:他告诉我,无论为了我们自己查证,还是为了将来向心存疑虑的人摆出事实,我们都需要这份记录,而我至今仍在频繁引用它。)

很显然,一切都在围绕着丹尼斯的意愿运转,科怀不过是顺水推舟。在2019年自由球员市场期间,这种情况仍在延续,据称他至少向猛龙、湖人和快船索要过违规利益。正如我们如今所知,快船做出了妥协,结果却作茧自缚,甚至连预期的回报都没拿到!事实证明,马刺关于科怀健康问题属于慢性伤病的判断完全正确;快船无论是靠他,还是靠他点名要来的搭档保罗·乔治 (Paul George)——为了得到乔治,快船送走了未来的MVP谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大 (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander)——都从未闯入过总决赛。(据报道,他们当时也曾要求马刺交易来乔治,但马刺回绝了,因为他们刚刚引进了拉马库斯·阿尔德里奇 (LaMarcus Aldridge)。)

丹尼斯舅舅这个大反派,亲手将马刺从看似能在GDP三巨头时代后继续保持争冠水准的强队,拖入了平庸的泥潭,并最终被迫开启重建模式。当然,我们现在可能会说:“但如果不是这样,我们现在也不会拥有文班、斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 或迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper)。”虽然这大概是事实,但其中所蕴含的巨大运气成分,尤其是得到文班的幸运,绝不能被忽视;只要乐透抽签的乒乓球弹向稍有不同,马刺可能至今仍处于水深火热之中。事实是,许多属于马刺的辉煌纪录都因科怀的消极怠工和离开而戛然而止,例如连续50胜赛季以及连续22年杀入季后赛的纪录;在今年重返季后赛之前,他们无缘季后赛的荒年数更是暴增了250%,从4年飙升至10年。

那么,令人意外的地方来了。早在四强赛阶段,我就曾说过,这取决于投票者究竟是将这一切归咎于煽风点火的丹尼斯舅舅,还是归咎于随波逐流的科怀。考虑到那些刺耳的嘘声,以及科怀在过去九个赛季中至少在公众层面一直稳坐“头号公敌”的宝座,我此前坚信他一定会登顶。因此,不仅是他未能进入决赛让我感到惊讶,决赛最终竟还将他置于受害者的角色,这着实有些讽刺。

但这恰恰证明了丹尼斯舅舅是一个多么善于操纵人心的人,大家的看法并没有错。无论“阿斯皮雷逊丑闻”(Aspiration Scandal)——这起事件与马刺毫无干系——是否在本次评选中为他推波助澜,那都已经无关紧要了。对于他的侄子来说,他最终成了一个极其糟糕的榜样;科怀在悲痛地失去亲生父亲后,本只是想寻找一位父亲般的长辈和一个值得信赖的人。罗伯逊却彻底利用了这一点,与此同时他还极其擅长保持低调,以至于我不得不沿用几篇文章前的那张题图,因为那是我能找到的仅有的几张他的照片之一,而且这是唯一一张既没有社交媒体文字覆盖、在我们网站上显示出来又不会模糊的照片。

所以,祝贺你,丹尼斯舅舅:你正式成为了马刺队史上的头号大反派。考虑到与你同台竞争的那些对手,这个头衔的分量可真是不轻。


我们再次向所有参与投票的读者表示感谢!我知道有些人觉得这只是休赛期的填空之作,如果说完全没有这层因素那绝对是假话,但它的意义远不止于此。在经历了长达9到10个月对常规赛、季后赛、选秀大会、自由球员市场和夏季联赛的报道之后,这为我们提供了一个有趣的并肩协作的机会。它也让我们得以稍稍施展创造力,并在这段一年中最沉闷的时光里带来有趣的团队合作与话题讨论。还要特别感谢赫苏斯·戈麦斯 (Jesus Gomez)、雅各布·道格拉斯 (Jacob Douglas) 和比尔·黄 (Bill Huan) 在发帖方面的协助;考虑到我手头目前的(其他)工作日程,如果没有他们,我绝不可能如此及时地完成这个专题。

马刺球迷们,新赛季马上就要来了。下周一就是媒体日!

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查看原文:Uncle Dennis Robertson is the Ultimate Spurs Villain

Uncle Dennis Robertson is the Ultimate Spurs Villain

We have completed our 2026 summer project of determining who the biggest Spurs Villain of all time is, and while the result shouldn’t be at all surprising when taking in context with the timing, I’ll admit it wasn’t the result I expected when we first concocted this idea a little over a month ago (more on that below). Beating out Zaza Pachulia (the dirtiest player to ever face the Spurs) to win the entire tournament is the person who played an even bigger role in the franchise’s downturn: the infamous Dennis Robertson: uncle to Kawhi Leonard and destroyer of two franchises (and counting).

Uncle Dennis first came into the purview of Spurs fans during the 2017-18 season, when shocking rumors started to swirl that Leonard was unhappy, claiming that they had misdiagnosed a quad injury — which mind you was unrelated to the Pachulia foul — as a chronic issue. They allowed him to seek a second medical opinion, and away he went to New York for “rehab”, hardly ever returning and even hiding in a closet when Spurs representatives came to check on him. As the negative reports kept trickling out all season, everything was being referred to has coming from “Kawhi’s group”, which we would soon learn was his agent at the time, Mitch Frankel, and uncle and representative, Dennis Robertson.

As rumors kept swirling and the media seemed to be taking Kawhi’s side on everything, the Spurs finally revealed their side of things through Michael C. Wright of ESPN, who wrote in part:

After Leonard and (former agent Brian) Elfus parted ways, Robertson and Frankel took over the day-to-day communication with the Spurs, and the relationship hasn’t been nearly as healthy, according to Spurs sources.

Multiple league sources also told ESPN that the Spurs have grown worried that Leonard’s group has an ulterior motive to fray the relationship and get Leonard traded to a larger market such as Los Angeles (Leonard’s hometown) or New York or Philadelphia (Robertson lives in New Jersey).

By that point, it was clear who was running the show, and we all know what happened from there. (If you really want to relive the whole saga that was 2017-18, go back and check out the entire timeline of events. That was just my second season covering the Spurs here at PtR, and I remember being both honored and terrified that J.R. Wilco gave me that project. But his words were prophetic: he told me we‘d need it to reference back to both for ourselves and to show to doubters in the future, and I still use it plenty.)

It was clear everything evolved around what Dennis wanted, and Kawhi was just along for the ride. That continued to be the case as he allegedly demanded impermissible benefits from at least the Raptors, Lakers and Clippers during 2019 free agency. As we now know, the Clippers acquiesced, much to their own detriment, and it didn’t even pay off! The Spurs’ were proven right about Kawhi’s health issues being chronic; the Clippers never reached the finals with him or his desired running mate of Paul George, whom they acquired for future MVP Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. (They reportedly demanded the Spurs trade for George as well, but they said no since they had just gotten LaMarcus Aldridge.)

Uncle Dennis is a villain who helped send the Spurs from seemingly set to keep contending after the Big 3 era to stuck in mediocrity and eventually rebuild mode. Sure, we could say, “but we wouldn’t have Wemby, Castle or Harper now,” and while likely true, the amount of luck involved especially with Wemby can’t be overlooked, and with a different bounce of the lottery balls, the Spurs could still be in purgatory. The fact is many of their sterling records were broken by Kawhi quitting/leaving, such as the streak of 50-win seasons and 22 straight years in the playoffs, and their number of years outside the playoffs grew by 250%, from four to ten before they returned this year.

Now here is where the surprise comes in. Back in the Final Four, I said it was up to the voters to decide if they blamed Uncle Dennis for influencing Kawhi to make all this happen, or if Kawhi was to blame for going along with it. Based on the boos and Kawhi at least publicly being Villain #1 over the last nine seasons, I thought for sure he would win, so the fact that not only did he not make the finals surprise me, but also the finals ending up putting him in a victim role, which is more than a bit ironic.

But that just goes show how manipulative a human being Uncle Dennis is, and you all aren’t wrong. Whether or not the Aspiration Scandal — which had nothing to do with the Spurs — played a role in his victory here is beside the point. He ended up being a terrible role model for his nephew, who was just looking for a father figure and someone to trust after he tragically lost his own. Robertson took complete advantage, all while being so good at keeping a low profile that I had to recycle the same header photo from a few articles ago because it was one of only a handful of photos I could find of him, and this is the only one that either didn’t have text on it from a social media post or wouldn’t come out blurry on our site.

So congratulations, Uncle Dennis: you are officially the most villainous character in Spurs history, and that is saying A LOT considering some of the competition you had to compete with.


Once again, we want to thank everyone who participated! I know some see this as simply space filler for the offseason, and it would be a lie to say that isn’t at least part of it, but there is also much more to it than that. It gives us something fun to team up on after what can be a very long 9-10 months of covering the regular season, playoffs, draft, free agency and Summer League. It also allows us to let out our creative sides a bit, and it makes for some fun teamwork and conversation during the dull time of the year. A special thank you also goes to Jesus Gomez, Jacob Douglas and Bill Huan for helping with the posts; with my current (other) work schedule, I never would have gotten this done in a timely manner without them.

We’re almost there, Pounders. Media Day is next Monday!

By Marilyn Dubinski / Pounding The Rock

马刺死敌锦标赛的最大冷门

By Jeje Gomez, Marilyn Dubinski, Mark Barrington, Devon Birdsong, Bill Huan / Pounding The Rock, 2026-09-22 08:15:25

死敌对决终极战的结果让你感到意外吗?

玛丽莲·杜宾斯基 (Marilyn Dubinski): 确实挺意外的。我本完全以为科怀·伦纳德 (Kawhi Leonard) 会和扎扎·帕楚里亚 (Zaza Pachulia) 一起杀入总决赛,毕竟在过去这八年里,他毫无疑问是圣安东尼奥的头号公敌,他竟然没进决赛着实让我吃了一惊。这让我不禁思考,锦标赛期间曝光的快船队“Aspiration赞助丑闻”,以及对丹尼斯叔叔远重于伦纳德的处罚力度,究竟在多大程度上影响了最后几轮的投票结果。很显然,球迷们认为比起随波逐流的伦纳德,推波助澜的丹尼斯叔叔才更应承担责任。但这正是我们举办这次活动的初衷!要是没有意外,那还有什么意思呢?毕竟其他三个半区可是一点悬念都没有。

马克·巴灵顿 (Mark Barrington): 和玛丽莲一样,我此前也坚信伦纳德能进决赛,并且会成为最终的冠军。不过,两位决赛选手都与伦纳德事件有着不可思议的纠葛:帕楚里亚扮演了那个故意弄伤马刺当家球星本就脆弱的脚踝、直接终结球队2017年季后赛征程的恶徒;而丹尼斯叔叔则一手策划了伦纳德与马刺之间那场极其难看的决裂,以及(在鲍尔默的默许下)摧毁球队薪资空间的违规惨剧。伦纳德再次置身于一场充满恶行与灾难的暴风眼中心,但他却毫发无损地脱身了,最终被交易到猛龙队,在多年前被他弃之如敝履的队伍之一结束自己的职业生涯。他的反派历程堪称传奇,也许终章会是某种救赎。但千万别抱太大希望。

比尔·黄 (Bill Huan): 和玛丽莲以及马克一样,我也完全以为伦纳德会进决赛,但我认为球迷们让丹尼斯叔叔篡位战胜外甥是完全合理的。我完全承认近期偏差可能影响了我的判断,但最近关于伦纳德-Aspiration丑闻的所有报道都表明,丹尼斯叔叔才是幕后的真正推手。这并不意味着如果伦纳德更能掌控自己的团队就一定会永远留在圣安东尼奥,但我确实认为,他完全有可能多留几个赛季并在2019年休赛期体面离开,而不是在2018年逼迫球队做交易。在伦纳德的带领下,马刺本可以作为总冠军争夺者再战几个赛季,所以我赞同丹尼斯叔叔压过他的外甥跻身决赛。

德文·伯德松 (Devon Birdsong): 怎么说呢,其实并不意外。随着快船丑闻的发酵,我本就料到丹尼斯叔叔和伦纳德会在这份对阵图里走得很远。这两人加上帕楚里亚是马刺球迷圈近期最深恶痛绝的死敌面孔,他们也确实都打进了四强。然而,我本来以为丹尼斯会承担主要火力。球迷群体中仍有一些伦纳德的辩护者,而且他确实在场上切实地帮助马刺赢下过一座总冠军,而他的叔叔则没有任何这种缓冲垫。让我更吃惊的是雷·阿伦 (Ray Allen) 竟然在八强赛中没能击败德里克·费舍尔 (Derek Fisher),不过我现在意识到,这可能是因为2014年的夺冠抚平了那记投篮带来的创伤。而且,我如今很少再看到“0.4秒”的录像片段了,但全联盟在每个季后赛都特别喜欢循环播放阿伦的那记投篮(至少感觉上是这样),所以我对费舍尔那一投的怨念(和应激反应)已经减弱了许多。

赫赫·戈麦斯 (Jeje Gomez): 丹尼斯叔叔打进决赛让我大跌眼镜。如今的丹尼斯确实是联盟公认的恶人,但当年他充其量只是策划了伦纳德的离队。换做任何其他经纪人或团队操盘手,也会做出同样的事。结合最近的新闻,我完全能理解他为什么能走到这一步,但我原本以为伦纳德本人才会是摘得桂冠的那个人。

除此之外,并没有太大的冷门。帕楚里亚配得上反派这个名头,半决赛的各位也是实至名归。总的来说,我认为这次活动表明,除了一处可能的例外,球迷群体在“最讨厌谁”这个问题上是非常高度一致的。

你认为有谁本该走得更远?为什么?是否有哪场对决的结果出乎你的意料?

杜宾斯基: 菲尔·杰克逊 (Phil Jackson) 和大卫·斯特恩 (David Stern) 竟然都没能挺过“黑粉半区”的第二轮,这着实惊到了我。这或许说明我们PtR的很多读者都比我年轻。(可我也“才”40岁啊!你们真是让我觉得自己老了!)回到2000年代初到中叶,那会儿公众人物发表更有争议的言论还不会在社交媒体上遭到全球性的抵制。杰克逊那番“缩水赛季冠军带星号”的言论充斥着酸味,被湖人球迷和其他黑子用来贬低马刺,哪怕是在马刺王朝的巅峰期;而斯特恩关于“马刺进总决赛对联盟不利,如果由他说了算,每次总决赛都该是凯尔特人打湖人”的言论,严重程度完全不亚于“轮休门”。但也许并不是所有人都经历过或还记得那些往事。

巴灵顿: 除了上述提到的伦纳德未能晋级决赛之外,我认为整个走势基本符合我的预期。我原本以为尼克斯队可能会走得更远,毕竟马刺球迷对那次总决赛的结果耿耿于怀。但我认为投票者做出了精准的评判:尼克斯并非反派;他们只是一支充满拼劲和沉着、并且在对抗中赢下了经验尚浅的银黑军团的队伍。诚然,他们的球迷确实令人难以忍受,但那不是球队本身的问题,坦白讲,如果当时是马刺赢了,我也一样会得意忘形。

黄: 我个人认为理查德·杰弗森 (Richard Jefferson)(4号种子)在“前马刺球员半区”的位置排得太高了,而丹尼斯·罗德曼 (Dennis Rodman)(7号种子)则排得太低。不可否认,杰弗森在圣安东尼奥的三个赛季确实表现挣扎,但他从未像罗德曼那样把矛头指向球队。杰弗森从未像罗德曼那样扰乱更衣室,离开时也没有抨击过前队友,所以他凭什么排得这么高?我觉得把他们俩的顺位对调一下会合理得多。

伯德松: 斯蒂芬·杰克逊 (Stephen Jackson) 在十六强赛击败罗伯特·霍里 (Robert Horry) 也让我有些意外。那场对决感觉绝对是不相上下,但杰克逊至少对蒂姆和波波维奇赞不绝口,而霍里这些年来似乎一直在冷嘲热讽,整体上对他效力圣安东尼奥的时光充满怨怼,也许这就是差距所在(至少对我来说是这样)。我猜那记关键绝杀为霍里赢得了足够的好感,但杰克逊在2003年面对达拉斯时(联手史蒂夫·科尔 (Steve Kerr))也投进过不少关键球,所以谁知道呢?另外,如果马库斯·莫里斯 (Marcus Morris) 和“大梦”哈基姆·奥拉朱旺 (Hakeem Olajuwon) 没有在对阵图这么早就碰上伦纳德和雷·阿伦,他们本可以走得更远。

戈麦斯: 2025/26赛季的尼克斯队对马刺和文班亚马狂喷垃圾话,一度让我以为近期偏差会把他们往前推几轮。但真正的答案是菲尔·杰克逊。在2000年代中叶两队的宿怨中,这家伙一直在贬低马刺的大多数成就。我完全理解距离那时已经过去了很久,而且2014年的总冠军改变了一切,但我本以为会有更多唾沫星子砸向他。

从现在起算五年后,你认为谁会赢得死敌锦标赛?

杜宾斯基: 除了想知道换成其他任何一年伦纳德是否能击败丹尼斯叔叔之外,我总觉得未来会有人对文班做出比帕楚里亚或卡尔·马龙 (Karl Malone) 更出格的恶劣动作,从而在我们的“恶汉半区”里一路狂飙。此外,马刺的重新崛起势必会建立或重启诸多宿敌恩怨。看看雷霆队中是否会有人比吕冈茨·多尔特 (Lu Dort) 更招我们的恨,这将会很有趣。(切特·霍姆格伦 (Chet Holmgren) 会开窍并在季后赛中与文班真正掀起宿命对决吗?亚历山大 (SGA) 会继续靠造犯规得利直到用这种方式击败马刺吗?)同样不可避免的是,某个前马刺球员迟早会取代莫里斯在那个半区的位置,尽管我不确定会不会是现役球员中的哪一位。(我们在这个半区中稍微受到了限制,因为我们严格局限于篮球层面,没有去深挖球员的场外麻烦。)

巴灵顿: 说到莫里斯,我有点好奇卡梅伦·佩恩 (Cam Payne) 怎么没上榜。他在2023年被交易到马刺却从未报到,最终被买断以便能与其他球队签约。也许是因为没人记得他是谁吧。我认为如果马刺最终在总决赛中再次与尼克斯相遇,两队之间可能会酝酿出某种竞技仇恨。人们普遍认为由于薪资帽的压力,他们的争冠窗口期相当短暂,但随着杰伦·布伦森 (Jalen Brunson) 带头降薪,我绝不会将他们排除在东部长期竞争者之外;如果两队再次相遇而马刺无法逾越他们,他们将成为名副其实的宿敌。我希望马刺在下次季后赛相遇时能上演一场2014年式的复仇救赎之旅,但历史尚未书写。

我注意到SBNation关于最招人恨球队的讨论帖中,有些人提到了马刺。在我看来,这是一种尊重的象征。随着马刺越来越成功,我猜他们会越来越招人恨;如果有一个面向全联盟所有球迷开放的死敌锦标赛,文班可能会名列前茅——除非他和球队能找到更有创造力的方式,来应对防守者对他无休止的粗暴缠防。

黄: 五年时间其实非常短暂,但如果非要我选出一个新的冠军,那必定会是某个对文班使阴招的球员。单是近期偏差就会给他们带来巨大的“优势”,更不用说潜在伤及全联盟最强球员的严重性了。我的意思是,帕楚里亚能进决赛,是因为他弄伤了另一个在此次锦标赛中名列前三的反派;你能想象如果一个球员弄伤了球队门面兼球迷宠儿文班,他会招致多么滔天的恨意吗??

伯德松: 如果有人让文班受伤(尤其是在季后赛中),我怀疑帕楚里亚在这方面的统治地位终于要宣告终结了。我认为本赛季打进总决赛已经为很多球迷消解了当年的部分刺痛。不可否认,他依然遭人痛恨,但已经不像马刺深陷多次两位数连败泥潭时那样咬牙切齿了。再拿下一两个总冠军可能会让这种仇恨进一步消退。此外,如果马刺在总决赛中(但愿别发生)再次输给尼克斯,他们可能会以前所未有的态势成为球迷圈心中的头号大敌。出于阵容构建以及与詹姆斯·多兰 (James Dolan) 相关的诸多原因,我认为这不会发生,但如果真发生了,那绝对会载入史册。我敢打赌,如果马刺在2014年再次输给迈阿密热火,热火队绝对会横扫整个对阵半区。

戈麦斯: 任何伤害文班的人都是标准答案,但我提供另一个视角:如果马刺在接下来的五年内没有夺冠,我认为布赖恩·莱特 (Brian Wright) 可能会变成反派。莱特很可能要代表管理层做出许多不得人心的操作,以便让球队保持在奢侈税线和第二土豪线以下,所以如果圣安东尼奥铩羽而归,他将成为完美的替罪羊——来背负“为何一支拥有顶尖年轻天赋的阵容表现不及预期、白白浪费了这么多黄金岁月”的骂名。剧本简直信手拈来。

如果要说黑马,那可能会是年轻后卫中的某一位。受限制自由球员的身份基本确保了他们会签下第二份合同,目前两人看起来也都很开心;但这两人的实力似乎都足以在各自队伍中独挑大梁,而马刺显然是属于文班的。如果球队能取得足够的成功,这一切都不是问题;但我们很难忘记上一次一支拥有如此多顶尖年轻天赋的球队在面对薪资续约和确定核心阶梯时发生了什么,所以希望卡斯尔和哈珀都不要重蹈2012年詹姆斯·哈登 (James Harden) 的覆辙,沦为反派。

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查看原文:The biggest surprises of the Spurs Villain Tournament

The biggest surprises of the Spurs Villain Tournament

Are you surprised by the Villain Bracket Final results?

Marilyn Dubinski: I am. I wholly expected Kawhi Leonard to be in the Finals (along with Zaza Pachulia) since he has very clearly been public enemy no.1 in San Antonio for the last eight years, and the fact that he wasn’t there shocked me. It leads me to wonder how much the Clippers’ Aspiration scandal and the punishment, which was much harsher on Uncle Dennis than Kawhi, coming out during the tournament played a role in influencing the outcome of the last few rounds. Clearly, fans decided that Uncle Dennis was more responsible for influencing Kawhi than Kawhi was for going along with it, but that’s why we did this! It wouldn’t have been any fun without surprises, and there were none in the other three brackets.

Mark Barrington: Like Marilyn, I certainly expected Kawhi to be in the finals, and the eventual winner. However, both finalists are inexplicably entwined in the Leonard saga: Zaza as the brigand who intentionally injured the already tender ankle of the Spurs’ best player, ending their 2017 playoff run, and uncle Dennis, who engineered Kawhi’s messy exit from the Spurs and the franchise-crushing salary cap circumvention fiasco (with Ballmer’s complicity). Once again, Kawhi is at the center of a hurricane of misdeeds and calamity, but he doesn’t face the consequences, traded to the Raptors to finish out his career at one of the teams he left in his wake years ago. He’s had quite the villain’s journey, and maybe the final chapter will be redemption. But don’t count on it.

Bill Huan: Like Marilyn and Mark, I wholly expected Kawhi to be in the finals, but I think the fans got it right by having Uncle Dennis usurp his nephew. I fully admit that recency bias is likely affecting my judgment, but all the recent reports regarding the Kawhi-Aspiration scandal indicate that Uncle Dennis was the mastermind behind everything. That doesn’t mean Kawhi was going to stay in San Antonio forever if he was more in control of his camp, but I do think it’s possible he could’ve stayed a few more seasons and departed in the 2019 offseason rather than forcing the team’s hand to trade him in 2018. Perhaps the Spurs could’ve had a few more seasons as a title contender with him leading the way, so I agree with Uncle Dennis making the final over his nephew.

Devon Birdsong: I mean, not really. With the Clippers scandal going down, I expected that Uncle Dennis and Kawhi were going deep in the bracket. Those two and Zaza are the most recent faces of Spurs fandom villainy, and they all made the Final Four. However, I expected that Dennis was going to take the brunt. There are still some Kawhi apologists in the fanbase, and he did physically help the Spurs win a championship, whereas his Uncle has no such buffer. I was more shocked that Ray Allen didn’t make it past Derek Fisher in the Elite Eight, though I’m realizing that’s probably the result of the 2014 Championship taking the edge off of his shot. Still, I rarely see the .4 seconds clip anymore, and the NBA at-large loves to play Allen’s shot on a loop every postseason (or, at least, that’s how it feels), so my animus for (and reaction to) Fisher’s shot is greatly lessened.

Jeje Gomez: I’m shocked Uncle Dennis made the Finals. Current-day UD is a certified NBA villain, but back in the day he was just someone who engineered Kawhi’s exit. Any other manager or agent could have done the same. I absolutely understand why he’s there, considering recent news, but I thought Kawhi himself would be the one to win the whole thing.

Other than that, there weren’t major surprises. Zaza earned the villain title. The guys in the semis did as well. Overall, I think this exercise showed that, with one possible exception, the fan base is united in who they dislike the most.

Is there anyone you think should have advanced further than they did, and why? Was there an upset you weren’t expecting?

Dubinski: I was shocked that neither Phil Jackson nor David Stern advanced past the second round of the Haters bracket, which may be an indicator that a lot of our PtR audience is younger than me. (And I’m “only” 40! You guys are making me feel old!) Back in the early-to-mid 2000’s, when public figures could get away with more controversial statements without worldwide pushback on social media, Jackson’s asterisk comment reeked of jealousy and was used by Lakers fans and other haters to discredit the Spurs even at the height of their dynasty, and frankly Stern’s comments that the Spurs being in the Finals was bad for the league, and if he had his way, every Finals would be Celtics-Lakers, were right up there with Restgate, but maybe not everyone went through or remembers all that.

Barrington: Except for Kawhi’s failure to advance to the Finals [mentioned above], I think things played out about as I thought they would. I would have thought that the Knicks might have gone further than they did, because of Spurs being unhappy about the outcome of the Finals, but I think that voters correctly assessed that the Knicks aren’t villains; they are simply a team that played with a lot of heart and poise and outcompeted the inexperienced Silver and Black. Sure, their fans were insufferable, but that’s not the team, and frankly, if the Spurs had won, I’d be insufferable too.

Huan: I personally think that Richard Jefferson (4-seed) was placed way too high on the Former Spurs’ side of the bracket, and Dennis Rodman (7-seed) was too low. Sure, RJ struggled in his three seasons in San Antonio, but he has never blamed the organization the way Rodman did. RJ was never a locker room distraction like Rodman and didn’t bash his former teammates on the way out, so why was he ranked so high? I think it would’ve made more sense to swap the two.

Birdsong: I was a little surprised that Stephen Jackson beat out Robert Horry in the Sweet 16 as well. It definitely felt like a near-even match, but Jackson is at least complimentary about Tim and Pop, whereas it feels like Horry has taken potshot after potshot over the years, and is just generally resentful of his time in San Antonio overall, and that would maybe be the difference (it was for me). I guess one huge shot bought him enough goodwill, but Jackson had quite a few against Dallas (alongside Steve Kerr) in 2003, so what do I know? I also feel like Marcus Morris and Hakeem The Dream would have made it further if they didn’t end up facing Kawhi and Ray Allen so early in the bracket.

Gomez: The 2025/26 Knicks talked a lot of smack about the Spurs and Wembanyama, to the point where I thought recency bias might propel them through a couple of rounds. But the real answer is Phil Jackson. During the mid-2000’s rivalry, the guy was downplaying most Spurs achievements. I completely understand that it’s been a long time since then and the 2014 title changed things, but I was expecting more vitriol to come his way.

Five years from now, who do you think would win a Villain Bracket?

Dubinski: Beyond wondering if Kawhi would have beaten out Uncle Dennis in any other year, I feel like there’s going to be someone who does something to Wemby that outdoes Zaza or Karl Malone and shoots them up our Dirty Players bracket. Also, the Spurs’ rise to new prominence is inevitably going to create or renew rivalries. It will be interesting to see if someone on OKC triggers our hate more than Lu Dort. (Will Chet Holmgren figure things out and really get that rivalry with Wemby going in the playoffs? Will SGA keep getting away with foul baiting to the point that they beat the Spurs with it?) It’s also inevitable that a former Spur will be able to replace Marcus Morris in that bracket, although I’m not sure it will be anyone among the current players. (We were a bit limited in that bracket by sticking to basketball and not looking into players’ off-court troubles.)

Barrington: Speaking of Marcus Morris, I’m kind of wondering how Cam Payne didn’t make the list. He was traded to the Spurs in 2023 and never reported, finally waived so he could sign with another team. Maybe that’s because nobody remembers who he is. I think if the Spurs end up meeting again with the Knicks in the finals, there could be some sports hate brewing between the two teams. Conventional wisdom is that they had a pretty brief window due to salary cap concerns, but with Brunson setting the example by taking a discount, I wouldn’t count them out as a long-term contender in the Eastern Conference, and if the Spurs can’t get past them if they meet again, they will be worthy nemeses. My hope is that the Spurs have a 2014-style redemption tour the next time they meet in the playoffs, but history is yet to be written.

I was noticing in the SBNation thread about Most Hated Teams that some people are mentioning the Spurs. In my opinion, that’s a sign of respect. As the Spurs become more successful, I suspect that they will become more hated, and if there were a villains tournament open to fans of all fans in the entire league, Wemby could end up near the top, unless he and the team can find some more creative ways to deal with the constant mugging he gets from opposing defenders.

Huan: Five years is not much time at all, but if I had to crown a new winner, it must be a player who does something dirty to Wemby. The recency bias alone would be a huge advantage for them, not to mention potentially injuring the best player in the league. I mean, Zaza’s in the Finals for injuring another top-three villain in the tournament; can you imagine how much hate a player would receive for injuring the face of the franchise and fan favorite Wemby??

Birdsong: If anyone injures Wemby (especially in the postseason), I suspect Zaza’s reign on that front will finally end. I think making it to the Finals this season has already taken some of the sting out of that for a lot of fans. Sure, he’s hated, but not in the way he was when the Spurs were mired in multiple double-digit losing streaks. Another championship or two will probably reduce that even further. Additionally, if the Spurs were to (knock on wood) lose to the Knicks in the Finals again, they’ll probably become Enemy #1 for the fanbase in a manner we’ve never seen before. I don’t see that happening for a multitude of team-building + James Dolan-related reasons, but that would be an all-timer. I’m willing to bet the Miami Heat would’ve swept the entire bracket if the Spurs had lost to them again in 2014.

Gomez: Anyone who hurts Wemby is the right answer, but I’ll offer another perspective: If the Spurs don’t win a title in the next five years, I could see Brian Wright becoming a villain. Wright will be the face of a lot of likely unpopular moves to keep the team under the tax line and second apron, so if San Antonio falls short, he’ll be the perfect scapegoat as to why a group with elite young talent underperformed and how so many good years were wasted. The narrative writes itself.

If we are talking about a dark horse, it could be one of the young guards. Restricted free agency practically ensures that they’ll sign a second contract, and both seem happy now, but both seem good enough to potentially be the biggest star on their own team, and the Spurs’ are clearly Wemby’s. If there’s enough success, there should be no issues, but it’s hard to forget what happened the last time a team with this much elite young talent had to pay everyone and figure out a pecking order, so hopefully neither Castle nor Harper pulls off a 2012 James Harden and becomes a villain.

By Jeje Gomez, Marilyn Dubinski, Mark Barrington, Devon Birdsong, Bill Huan / Pounding The Rock