[Reddit] 2025-11-03 马刺客场118-130太阳赛后精彩评论

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By basketball-app | Reddit/r/NBASpurs, 2025-11-03 11:28:32

由生成式人工智能翻译，译文内容可能不准确或不完整，以原文为准。

Ancient_Response_787:

真的需要凯利和卢克回来增加中锋深度，文班累坏了

tms78:

他看起来很累，因为太阳队整晚都在消耗他。
卡斯尔和瓦塞尔有点被垃圾话影响上头了，导致球队失去了掌控。
他们在给文班传球这件事上毫无耐心，这没有任何借口。
只有当文班作为进攻轴心时，我们的进攻才能奏效。
如果他们没投进那么多空位三分，我们就能赢下这场比赛，因为他们130分里有98分是在禁区外得到的。

Imaginary-Cycle-1977:

我们赛前歇了两天，再往前一场比赛也隔了两天。我不觉得文班应该会超级疲劳。

TheRatManBob:

他赛前并不疲劳。他就像每个21岁的年轻人一样，身体还无法支撑他同时作为头号得分手和防守核心打上30多分钟。同年龄的字母哥和勒布朗也做不到。他需要福克斯回来在进攻端为他分担压力，也需要那几个大个子白人球员恢复健康，这样他才能获得喘息之机。我们还需要一个真正的大前锋，这样他就不用一直独自承担护筐的责任了。

ifuckwithit:

当然，但他在打到30分钟之前很久看起来就很疲惫了。最关键的是他没有帮手。如果尚帕尼和瓦塞尔只会打铁，那为什么还要传给他们呢？

adelphotes:

目标81胜1负
我们已经输掉了那一场，是时候来一波75连胜了。
为迪伦祈祷，不想看到他穿着保护靴，希望伤势不重，能早日回归，他打得正棒呢。
考虑到太阳三分命中率超过50%，而马刺三分手感是赛季最差的一晚，加上文班状态不佳和一些有争议的犯规，这场失利也在意料之中。
必须称赞巴恩斯投进了一些球，以及卡斯尔今晚成为了我们的关键先生。讨厌输球，但喜欢看到球队拼满了48分钟。
附言：解放莱利·米尼克斯
马刺加油！

siphillis:

保护靴对于轻微的拉伤/扭伤来说是很常见的。促进血液循环和早期加压是目前治疗软组织损伤的主流方法。重点是，别对保护靴过度解读。

FunnyScreenName:

我的生活中就需要这种乐观精神。

adelphotes:

这里只有乐观的看法，可以看看我在马刺专区的评论历史
马刺加油！

InsertDev:

这对球员和我们的球迷来说都是一盆冷水，让我们谦虚了一下。我们有点太沉浸在媒体的吹捧中了。下一场比赛需要每个人，尤其是文班，打得更有侵略性。
这将是本赛季这支球队要克服的障碍。如何应对针对文班的双人甚至三人包夹，以及他本人破解这些包夹的能力。

deneuvig:

说得太对了，这支球队需要一场失利来清醒一下头脑。我们对连胜有点想得太美了。唯一真正让人沮丧的是哈珀，希望他的拉伤不严重。

someguyfromtecate:

我之前说我们不可能全胜，结果被踩到不见天日。这个论坛需要一剂现实猛药，而我们今天就被结结实实地修理了一顿。

dooley_mau5:

没错，确实如此。现在还说81胜1负，我理解大家想保持乐观，但这真的有点尬，太不切实际了。74胜8负我倒是能接受，哈哈。

Xist2Inspire:

好吧。
首先，我并不担心他们输球。勇士队曾背靠背输给缺少字母哥的雄鹿和伤兵满营的步行者，也没人预测他们会去抽乐透签。5胜1负是个很棒的开局，在被明确证明不行之前，这仍然是一支季后赛级别的球队。
我担心的是他们输球的方式。“哦，太阳队只是三分线外手感火热，这很正常。”你知道还有谁在一段时间里三分也异常火热吗？篮网和热火。听着，我们都知道对手不会轻易在内线挑战文班，他光是站在那里就能把一条干净的突破路线变成一次突分。马刺在外线的防守绝不能松懈。文班的防守引力会让对手比平时投更多的三分，所以防守必须紧凑，随时准备干扰投手。篮网队获得了太多空位三分机会，热火也是，现在太阳队更是直接投疯了。在一个本就极度鼓励大量投射三分的联盟里，这一点如果成为弱点，输掉的比赛会比赢的更多，而且考虑到马刺的特殊情况，这可能成为对手可以利用的阿喀琉斯之踵。
再说到进攻端…马刺根本不是一支射手队，我认为是时候接受这个事实了，别再强迫自己打得像一支射手队。这支球队里没有任何一个人能凭借一己三分威胁就完全把防守从文班身边拉开。所以他们需要找到其他方法来解决问题。对我来说，答案是持续的无球移动。掩护、空切、突分、顺下等等。让对方防守必须在留守禁区和四处追赶以防漏掉空位机会和突破路线之间做出选择。我知道理想情况是围绕文班打造一支霍华德/约基奇式的球队，为他在低位创造空间…但哈珀和卡斯尔在冲击和压迫篮筐时表现最好。瓦塞尔最擅长的是命中中距离跳投。KJ和索汉在低位干脏活累活、处理乱局和终结进攻时表现最佳。福克斯则有点像一把瑞士军刀。
文班远不止是一个霍华德或约基奇。文班可以在场上任何位置打球，移动能力和队里任何人一样出色，而且他随时都只差一两步就能回到禁区。没必要把他当成一个固定的内线支点，我们可以利用他的运动能力和引力，带着防守人移动，为队友清理出操作空间。文班在发起战术方面和他的队友一样出色，没必要强迫他扮演一个略显被动的角色，总是让队友喂球给他（尤其是当他们似乎在内线传球上很挣扎时）。早点把球给他，用各种不同的方式，让他有权选择自己想如何进攻，而不是总让他重复同样的低位要球、背打、转身、面框的套路，这简直是在等着对手上双人甚至三人包夹。感觉马刺的进攻之所以如此停滞，就是因为他们没有根据自身特点来打球，而是选择了传统观念认为他们应该使用的打法。
我反而有点高兴马刺被这样痛扁了一顿，因为过去几场比赛中一直存在并暴露出来的一些小问题，在赢球时很容易被忽视。这场失利提供了一个机会，让他们可以开始着手纠正这些坏习惯。

OnomahIsABaller:

输球我很生气，是的，你不可能赢下每场比赛，但是拜托，我们不能输给菲尼克斯太阳这种破队啊。
但我不会过度反应。文班打得糟透了，但他不可能每场都这么差，太阳三分命中率接近60%，裁判也烂得要命。我们自己的三分命中率只有24%。这场比赛是个例。
只有斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 和凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 站出来迎接挑战，没有退缩。对球队今天的精神状态感到失望。
希望德阿隆·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox)、卢克·科内特 (Luke Kornet) 和杰里米·索汉 (Jeremy Sochan) 下场对阵湖人时能回来。也希望迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 的伤不严重。
糟糕的比赛，但我们继续前进。

widelyruled:

这场比赛是个例
或者这只是均值回归。在福克斯和科内特缺阵的情况下，这套阵容和我们去年用的差不多，糟糕的投射让我们完全无法应对对手在我们给文班喂球之前就对他进行的围剿。

DirtyWizardsBrew:

这感觉和过去两个赛季非常非常相似。
我真的讨厌自己无论对手是谁（尤其是面对一支真正糟糕的球队时），都总会预料到他们会打出这样的表现。

点击查看原文：Post Game Thread - NBA: The Suns defeat the Spurs on Nov 2, 2025, the final score is 130-118.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Suns defeat the Spurs on Nov 2, 2025, the final score is 130-118.

Ancient_Response_787:

Really need kelly and luke back for center depth, wemby is TIRED

tms78:

He looked tired because the Suns were beating him up all night.
Castle and Vassell let a little trash talk get in their heads, which took the hands off the proverbial wheel.
There is no excuse for how little patience that had at getting Wemby the ball. The offense only works if Wemby is operating as a hub.
We win that game if they don’t get so many wide open threes, because 98 of their 130 points were scored outside the paint.

Imaginary-Cycle-1977:

We had 2 days off a game and 2 days off leading up to this game. I don’t think Wemby shoulda been super fatigued

TheRatManBob:

He wasn’t fatigued before the game. He like every 21 year old is not physically capable of being the lead scorer and defender for 30 plus minutes. Giannis and Lebron couldn’t at his age either. He needs Fox back to take the heat off him on offense and for the large white boys to get healthy so he can get breaks. We also need a real power forward so that he isn’t the sole rim defender all the time.

ifuckwithit:

I mean sure but he looked fatigued long before he hit the 30 min mark. Biggest thing was him having no help. Why pass it to Champagnie or Vassell if they’re just going to toss up bricks?

adelphotes:

On track for 81-1
We got the one loss out of the way, time for 75 straight wins.
Prayer’s up for Dylan, hate to see him in a boot, hope it’s not serious and he’s back soon, he was hooping.
With the Suns shooting over 50%+ on threes and Spurs having the worst 3 pt shooting night, Wemby having an off game and some of these questionable fouls a loss was expected.
Shout out to Barnes for hitting some shots and Castle being our go to guy tonight, hated seeing the loss, but loved seeing the team battle for the full 48.
PS: FREE RILEY MINIX
Go Spurs Go!

siphillis:

So the boot is pretty common for even minor strains/sprains. Getting blood flowing and adding pressure early is the current meta for treating soft-tissue issues. Point being, don’t read too much into the boot

FunnyScreenName:

this the type of optimism I need in my life.

adelphotes:

Only optimistic takes here, check out my comment history in r/nbaspurs : )
GO SPURS GO!

InsertDev:

A taste of humble pie for the guys and for our fanbase. Got a little too comfortable reading our press clippings. Gonna need everyone and mostly Vic to be more aggressive the next go around.
This is going to be the hurdle for this team this season. Playing off Victor double and triple teams, and not only that but his ability to navigate those situations.

deneuvig:

Spot on, this team needed the L to get its head right. We were too cute about the winning streak. Only real downer is Harper, I hope his strain is minor

someguyfromtecate:

I got downvoted to oblivion for saying we can’t win them all. This sub needed a reality check and we got one handed to us in the form of a woodshed spanking.

dooley_mau5:

Yeah they sure did. Now saying 81-1 I get that people want to be optimistic and all but I mean it’s pretty cringe and delusional. I’ll take 74-8 lol

Xist2Inspire:

Alright.
First off, I’m not worried that they lost. The Warriors got rolled by a Giannis-less Bucks and the Hospital Pacers back-to-back, and nobody’s predicting the lotto for them. 5-1 is a great start, and this is still a playoff team until definitively proven otherwise.
What I am worried about is how they lost. “Well, the Suns were just red hot from 3, it happens.” You know who else was unusually hot from 3 for a nice stretch of time? The Nets and Heat. Look, we know that teams are not going to seriously challenge Wemby inside, his presence alone turns a clean lane into a drive-and-kick. The Spurs cannot afford to slack off out on the perimeter. Teams are going to shoot more 3s against the Spurs than usual because of Wemby’s defensive gravity, so the defense has to be tight and ready to challenge shooters. The Nets walked into too many open 3s. So did the Heat. And now the Suns just went supernova. In a league that already heavily encourages a high volume of 3pt shooting, having that as a weak point will lose you more games than not, and given the Spurs’ specific circumstances, it’s a potential Achilles’ heel for opposing teams to exploit.
Now, going on to the other side…the Spurs just aren’t a team of shooters, and I think it’s high time they accept that and stop trying to force themselves to play like it. Not a single person on this roster is enough of a threat from 3 on their own to fully pull the defense away from Wemby. So they need to find other ways to get that done. To me, the answer is constant movement. Screens, cuts, kicks, rolls, etc. Get the defense to have to decide between staying at home in the paint or chasing around and not conceding open looks and lanes. I know the dream is to have a Dwight/Jokic-esque team around Wemby to give him room in the post…but Harper and Castle are at their best when penetrating and pressuring the rim. Vassell’s at his best when knocking down midrange jumpers. KJ and Sochan are at their best when they’re doing the dirty work down low, cleaning up messes, and finishing plays. Fox is a bit of a Swiss army knife.
Wemby is so much more than a Dwight or a Jokic. Wemby can operate in any spot on the court and move around every bit as good as anyone else on the team, he’s only ever a stride or two away from being back in the paint anyway. There’s no need to have him as this stationary paint presence when you can take advantage of his athleticism and gravity, dragging defenses with him and clearing up space for his teammates to operate. Wemby is every bit as capable as his teammates when it comes to initiating plays, there’s no need to force him into a slightly more passive role by always having his teammates feed him the ball (especially when they seem to struggle so hard with entry passes). Give him the ball early, in a variety of different ways, let him have the power to pick and choose how he wants to attack, instead of constantly making him do the same post up/back down/turn/face up routine that’s just begging for the double and triple team to come. It just feels like the Spurs’ offense gets so stagnant because they’re not playing to their specific strengths, instead choosing to play with the style that conventional wisdom says they should.
I’m kinda glad that the Spurs got plastered like this, because all the niggling issues that have been showing up and sticking around over the last few games were easier to overlook with wins. This provides an opportunity for them to begin the process of cleaning up some of these bad habits.

OnomahIsABaller:

I’m angry we lost, yes you can’t win every game but come on man we can’t lose to this shit Phoenix Suns team
But I’m not gonna overreact. Wemby was terrible but he can’t play this bad every game, Suns shot almost 60% from the 3’s and the refs was terrible. We also shot 24% from 3’s. This game is a anomaly
Stephon Castle & Keldon Johnson only ones stepping up to the challenge and not backing down. Disappointed with the mentality of the team today
Hopefully De’Aaron Fox, Luke Kornet & Jeremy Sochan is back next game against the Lakers. And hopefully Dylan Harper injury isn’t serious
Horrible game but we move

widelyruled:

This game is a anomaly
Or maybe it’s regression to the mean. With Fox and Kornet out, this is similar to what we ran last year, with poor shooting completely disabling our ability to counter defenses swarming Wemby before we can even feed him the ball.

DirtyWizardsBrew:

It feels very VERY similar to the past two seasons.
I genuinely hate how I’m always expecting them to perform like this no matter who we’re up against (especially when it’s against a really awful team).

By basketball-app, via Reddit/r/NBASpurs