[The Athletic] 谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大率雷霆击败马刺，赢下关键的第五场胜利

TheAthletic · 2026 年5 月 27 日 05:02

By Joel Lorenzi, Jared Weiss, Christian Clark and Darnell Mayberry | The Athletic, 2026-05-27 03:21:23

在周二进行的西部决赛第五场对决中，俄克拉荷马城雷霆在主场做出关键回应，以 127-114 击败圣安东尼奥马刺，赢下了一场至关重要的胜利。雷霆也成功从上一场本赛季最糟糕的低迷表现中反弹。

卫冕 MVP 谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大 (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) 砍下全场最高的 32 分并送出 9 次助攻，带领雷霆实现完美反弹。在双方第四场对决中，雷霆曾创下本赛季单场得分和投篮命中率的新低。此役，雷霆再度缺少了明星前锋杰伦·威廉姆斯 (Jalen Williams)（左侧腘绳肌拉伤）和阿杰·米切尔 (Ajay Mitchell)（右侧小腿拉伤）。

但雷霆深厚的阵容深度再次展现威力，压制了马刺。亚历克斯·卡鲁索 (Alex Caruso) 替补出场砍下 22 分。贾里德·麦凯恩 (Jared McCain) 贡献 17 分，切特·霍姆格伦 (Chet Holmgren) 斩获 16 分 11 个篮板的两双数据，以赛亚·哈尔滕施泰因 (Isaiah Hartenstein) 则贡献 12 分和全场最高的 15 个篮板。

斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 砍下 24 分，领跑马刺队的得分榜。朱利安·尚帕尼 (Julian Champagnie) 贡献 22 分和 8 个篮板。维克托·文班亚马 (Victor Wembanyama) 得到 20 分，但手感冰冷，15 投仅 4 中，其中三分球 5 投 0 中。

以下是本场比赛的一些关键要点。双方的第六场对决将于周四在圣安东尼奥打响。

熟悉的雷霆在第五场宣告回归

当雷霆打顺时，他们会展现出一种极具辨识度的团队篮球风格。那是充满凝聚力、坚韧、高效且计算精密的。

这与第四场截然不同，但在第五场中体现得淋漓尽致。

雷霆的进攻端人人皆有贡献：哈尔滕施泰因的掩护、麦凯恩的大胆投射、吉尔杰斯-亚历山大的节奏掌控、卡鲁索的及时雨表现。这是一波套路多变、令人防不胜防的攻势。而雷霆的防守甚至更具窒息感，卡鲁索的防守站位和凯森·华莱士 (Cason Wallace) 的积极断球让对手举步维艰。

周二晚上的比赛依然艰难，雷霆全力限制文班亚马，后者始终未能将自己的身高臂展和“外星人”般的天赋完全融入比赛。雷霆用自己的比赛风格扭转了系列赛的局势，比赛的每一步都在他们的掌控之中。 — 乔尔·洛伦齐 (Joel Lorenzi)，雷霆随队记者

雷霆防守让文班打得十分艰难

在这场强强对话中，马刺需要文班亚马每晚都拿出最佳状态，但这并没有发生。他有时表现得非常出色，但有时却难以展现出统治力。

这要归功于哈尔滕施泰因，他展现出了我们见过的对文班亚马最好的防守。他没有让文班舒服地落位或冲击篮筐，甚至不让文班在舒服的角度出手那些大跨步抛投。文班亚马甚至连把篮板球点给队友都很困难。这一切都让文班和马刺难以保持进攻的延续性。

与此同时，雷霆赢下了绝大多数二分之一球的拼抢，并且对自己在进攻端的执行意图有着更清晰的认识。马刺则不断落入雷霆防守故意留出的陷阱中，眼睁睁看着球被破坏甚至被抢断。圣安东尼奥的半场进攻持续陷入雷霆防守球员的重重包围之中，这让他们完全脱离了舒适区。

文班亚马是那个能够打破这一僵局的人，但这并没有在第五场比赛中发生。如果马刺想要扭转这轮系列赛，他们现在需要他连续两场打出统治级表现，但面对这支联盟顶级防守强队，他目前还没能做到这一点。

马刺今年还没有一个真正的顶级单打创造者。他们有一些非常优秀的球员，能够通过整体配合发挥作用。但在西部决赛面对雷霆时，这还远远不够，而且可能最终也无法奏效。

必须有人——具体来说就是文班——来证明自己能够提升到那个高度。因为吉尔杰斯-亚历山大已经做到了。 — 杰拉德·魏斯 (Jared Weiss)，马刺随队记者

卡鲁索成为替补席上的催化剂

由于缺少了威廉姆斯和米切尔这两位雷霆最优秀的进攻组织者（两人连续第二场缺阵），雷霆在关键的第五场比赛中需要其他进攻火力源。

在西部决赛前三场比赛中表现出色的卡鲁索挺身而出，砍下 22 分。这是卡鲁索在过去五场比赛中第四次得分达到至少 15 分。

周二卡鲁索命中的五记运动战进球中有四记是三分球，延续了他过去几周以来的火热手感。在比赛还剩 5 分 14 秒时，他的一记底角三分帮助雷霆将领先优势扩大到 14 分，为这场胜利奠定了基调。

对于曾两度夺得 NBA 总冠军的卡鲁索来说，这是一场完美的救赎之战，他在第四场比赛中一分未得。现在，雷霆和卡鲁索距离晋级 NBA 总决赛仅剩一步之遥，他们只需再击败马刺一次。周二的比赛中，雷霆迫切需要卡鲁索在进攻端的贡献——假设威廉姆斯和米切尔在本周晚些时候依然无法出战，雷霆可能还会再次需要他挺身而出。 — 克里斯蒂安·克拉克 (Christian Clark)，NBA 撰稿人

由生成式人工智能翻译，译文内容可能不准确或不完整，以原文为准。

点击查看原文：Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Thunder top Spurs for important Game 5 victory

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Thunder top Spurs for important Game 5 victory

The Oklahoma City Thunder bounced back from their worst game of the season with a pivotal response at home, beating the San Antonio Spurs 127-114 in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals on Tuesday.

Reigning MVP Shai Gilgeous-Alexander had a game-high 32 points with nine assists to lead the Thunder, who recovered wonderfully from posting a season low in points and field goal percentage in Game 4. OKC again was without star forward Jalen Williams (left hamstring) and Ajay Mitchell (right calf strain).

But once again, the Thunder’s depth showed up and overpowered the Spurs. Alex Caruso scored 22 points off the bench. Jared McCain scored 17, Chet Holmgren had 16 points with 11 rebounds, and Isaiah Hartenstein added 12 points and a game-high 15 rebounds.

Stephon Castle led the Spurs in double-figure scoring with 24 points. Julian Champagnie had 22 points and eight rebounds. Victor Wembanyama scored 20 points on a rough 4-for-15 shooting, and he went 0 for 5 from 3-point range.

Here are some takeaways with Game 6 set for Thursday in San Antonio.

A familiar OKC team returned in Game 5

When the Thunder are rolling, there is this recognizable brand of basketball they play with. It’s connective, it’s tenacious, it’s efficient and calculated.

Nothing like Game 4. Everything like Game 5.

The Thunder offense got punches from everyone. Hartenstein’s screening, McCain’s gutsy shotmaking, Gilgeous-Alexander’s pace, Caruso’s timeliness. It is a swarm of attacks too diverse to fight off. The defense was even more toxic, with Caruso’s positioning and Cason Wallace’s deflections.

Tuesday night seemed as hard, as OKC fought to limit Wembanyama, who never quite injected his length and extraterrestrial qualities into the game. OKC swung the series playing its style. It felt like that every step of the way. — Joel Lorenzi, Thunder writer

OKC defense making life for Wemby tough

The Spurs need the best out of Victor Wembanyama every night to win this battle of titans, but it’s just not happening. He has been great at times, but has struggled to impose himself at others.

Credit to Isaiah Hartenstein, who has played the best defense on Wembanyama that we’ve seen. He’s not letting Wemby get to spots comfortably or drive toward the rim. He’s not even letting Wemby get off those long-step floaters at an angle that’s comfortable. Wembanyama is struggling to even tip rebounds to his teammates. All of it has been difficult for Wemby and the Spurs to pull off consistently.

Meanwhile, the Thunder are winning the majority of the 50/50 plays and have a clearer sense of how they want to execute offensively. The Spurs keep taking the bait on the gaps the Thunder defense does yield, then watching the ball get deflected or even intercepted. San Antonio’s half-court offense continues to operate in a tangle of Thunder defenders that has taken the Spurs out of their comfort zone.

Wembanyama is the person who can break through this, but it didn’t happen in Game 5. They now need it from him two games in a row if the Spurs want to turn this series around, but it hasn’t happened so far against the best defense in the game.

The Spurs haven’t had a true Tier A individual creator this year. They have some really good ones who have been able to thrive in the aggregate. But that hasn’t cut it against the Thunder in the conference finals; it probably won’t in the end.

Somebody — namely Wemby — has to prove they can step up to that level. Because Gilgeous-Alexander already has. — Jared Weiss, Spurs writer

Caruso a catalyst off the bench

Missing Williams and Mitchell — two of the Thunder’s best creators — sidelined for a second straight game, the Thunder needed other sources of offense in a critical Game 5.

Alex Caruso, who played well for the Thunder in the first three games of their Western Conference finals series, rose to the occasion, scoring 22 points. It was the fourth time in the last five games that Caruso has scored at least 15 points.

Four of Caruso’s five made field goals Tuesday were 3-pointers — a continuation of the hot shooting he’s provided over the past few weeks. His corner 3 with 5:14 remaining pushed the Thunder ahead by 14 points and provided a punctuation mark to the win.

It was a bounce-back game from the two-time NBA champion Caruso, who was held scoreless in Game 4. Now, all the Thunder and Caruso need to do to advance to the NBA Finals is beat the Spurs one more time. Caruso’s offense was badly needed Tuesday — and could be again later this week, assuming Williams and Mitchell are still unable to go. — Christian Clark, NBA writer

By Joel Lorenzi, Jared Weiss, Christian Clark and Darnell Mayberry, via The Athletic

TheAthletic · 2026 年5 月 27 日 05:36

热评

10838965:

总结：雷霆队是一群假摔犯，打的篮球简直难看到吐。

Hugo M.:

看这群假摔犯打球简直是耻辱。而且这都是训练出来的。

alex L.:

@ takeaway - 你该去睡觉了

NICHOLAS P.:

事到如今，我怀疑你们这些整天喊假摔的家伙在发评论前到底有没有看比赛。

Xabi A.:

@NICHOLAS P. 他们根本不看，现在大家只是跟分这么说罢了。

Anonymous U.:

@NICHOLAS P. 看雷霆打球，就像在看一支由AI训练出来的球队，而这个AI的训练数据来自Temu、活塞队和足球运动员。

Tim D.:

@ 毕竟圣安东尼奥的评论员都来自德克萨斯。这解释了很多事情。

10838965:

@NICHOLAS P. 我们看了一会儿，然后看到第三节像小丑一样的滑稽场面，就把电视关了。

10838965:

@alex L. 谢谢你的关心，我感动得要流泪了

Joel R.:

@ 我的天，他们只是一支篮球队。这些观点真是懒惰得要命，搞得好像你们以前从来没看过球一样。
马刺拥有全联盟最输不起的球迷群体。

Theodore R.:

@S. A. 如果雷霆打进总决赛并赢下几场比赛，我很期待这个荒谬的虚假叙事会如何合乎逻辑地延伸下去：肖华 (Silver)、联盟和裁判们正密谋将莫须有的犯规吹给一支来自鸟不拉屎小市场的球队，好帮助他们击败……纽约尼克斯队！看来雷霆对这些纽约人施加了普京式的勒索力量。

10838965:

@alex L. 你现在开始让人觉得毛骨悚然了。这是你常用的搭讪套路吗？

10838965:

@Joel R. 我不是马刺球迷，你这个爱瞎假设的白痴。我只是希望比赛能有公正的判罚，而且我个人不喜欢雷霆这帮假摔犯的球风。

10838965:

@Chris K. 我太伤心了。我已经收到了你对我观点的透彻分析，并会给予其应有的考虑。

10838965:

@Tim D. 真是高深莫测。这能解释什么？解释你是个连话都说不明白的白痴吗？我不知道为什么圣安东尼奥的评论员来自德克萨斯就能解释这一点。当然，我们完全可以忽略我并不是马刺球迷的事实，或者忽略我所持有的观点——即雷霆这帮假摔犯的比赛很难看，这在不同地区的球迷群体中是广泛共识。例如，明尼苏达森林狼队的主教练克里斯·芬奇 (Chris Finch) 就在本赛季专门就这个话题大发雷霆，痛斥雷霆的假摔、骗犯规和肮脏打法是多么猖獗和令人作呕。而他并不是德克萨斯人。他在明尼苏达执教，而且是个英国人，这能给你解释很多事情吗，Tim？请分享你的真知灼见，我们大家都等不及了。

961883:

@ 搞得好像你根本没看比赛一样。你们这些人整天就知道说雷霆爱假摔。事实上，他们打着一种极其流畅、无私的团队篮球，通过快速的传导球让马刺防守失位，从而创造出空位投篮机会！如果你不带偏见的话，这其实非常有观赏性。

Jack S.:

这里抱怨裁判的人多得让人觉得可悲。雷霆是一支了不起的球队，SGA（谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大）是现代最优秀的得分后卫之一。如果你不懂篮球，那没关系，但请别用你们那些“都怪裁判！”的歇斯底里来烦我们。雷霆就是更强的球队，事情就这么简单。

Anonymous U.:

我觉得你不太懂球。你听起来就像是戴着偏见滤镜在看比赛。

Jack S.:

@Anonymous U. 真是个勇敢的匿名用户！

10838965:

@Jack S. 你也是匿名的，Jack

Joel R.:

@Anonymous U. 我不是这两支球队中任何一队的球迷，但他看起来比你们这些抱怨的人懂球得多。

parkmonkey7:

@Jack S. 雷霆在这轮系列赛中只有一名球员场均出场时间在35分钟以上（即SGA）。而马刺有四名。随着马刺球员在漫长的系列赛中体能耗尽，雷霆更胜一筹的阵容深度正在发挥决定性作用。

Zay T.:

很多人总说SGA假摔——如果你真的去仔细分析他的犯规，你会发现其实并没有你想象的那么多“假摔”，这都要归功于那些不看完整比赛、只知道刷推特的脑残NBA球迷。与此同时，SGA继续保持着稳定的得分率和极高的运动战效率。亚历山大非比寻常的球风让防守球员感到沮丧，他们对他上了极大的身体对抗。科比 (Kobe) 和乔丹 (MJ) 以前也经常骗犯规，但大家当时都觉得没问题。你们希望比赛有更多的身体对抗，但当有球员利用这一点时，反而成了问题？这根本说不通。SGA独特的突破角度和节奏让防守球员不得不频繁调整脚步和重心，最终撞到他身上。亚历山大利用了这一点并制造了犯规。他在戏耍防守球员，并利用提前合球来制造身体接触。他2米11（6英尺11英寸）的臂展让他即使在受到冲撞时也能将球送入篮筐。这种变速的节奏让防守球员抓狂，而他则借此获利。再加上他顶级的终结能力、不断进步的传球组织以及水准之上的防守，这就是MVP级别的表现。最重要的是，SGA在受到身体接触时拥有惊人的反应速度和超乎常人的空间感知力，这使他能够针对所面对的强硬防守做出反制，或直接迎着防守强起。此外，每个防守球员在面对亚历山大时都在进行手部纠缠，不断拉拽他的手臂，并在他突破时使用非法身体接触来占据有利位置：防守球员害怕被亚历山大一步过掉，所以会使用一些隐蔽的拉拽动作。在这轮系列赛中，斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 正在对SGA进行疯狂的身体对抗，而人们居然还在抱怨。亚历山大只是利用了这一点。
今年他的罚球出手比（FT/FGA）排在联盟第10位。
（他从未在这项数据或场均罚球次数上领跑联盟。）
他的球队在所有衡量罚球率的指标上（场均、每次出手、每回合）都低于联盟平均水平。
SGA占了全队惊人的32%的罚球，这一比例高居联盟第二。
看来SGA的罚球率高，原因很简单：
——他占据了全队第九高的出手份额。
——他的出手大部分是两分球，占比超过77%，在符合评选资格的球员中排名第12。
——在符合评选资格的球员中，他的使用率（球权占有率）排名第4。

Jamie W.:

@Zay T. 嘿……你得赶紧把这篇帖子删了……你没有跟着NBA媒体/社交媒体的舆论走……这里是不允许理性思考的
他们抱怨，我们赢球！！#雷霆加油！！

Mister Pin K.:

@Zay T. 哈哈，看来SGA的罚球率高只是因为……他在常规赛场均罚球次数排在联盟第三，而在季后赛场均罚球次数更是高居联盟第一……
拿了32分，其中有16分是靠罚球得的……

Elijah O.:

@Zay T. 人们确实夸大了，但与此同时，暗示他的假摔“没有想象中那么多”也是不真诚的。他倒地的次数远超实际需要，很多时候就像恩比德 (Embiid) 一样是故意的。
他是个伟大的球员，退役时肯定会拥有名人堂级别的履历（如果现在还没锁定的话），但承认他确实经常做那些被指责的事情也没什么大不了的。科比和乔丹根本不是“骗犯规的人”，是詹姆斯·哈登 (James Harden) 把这种打法发扬光大的。90年代的裁判判罚尺度和现在完全不同，说科比和迈克尔（乔丹）是骗犯规的简直是无稽之谈，哈哈。当时的裁判不会吹现在这种犯规，在乔丹和科比打球的时代，犯规就是实打实的犯规。你忽视了一个事实，那就是他突破时确实制造了接触并被犯规了，但让球迷感到愤怒的，是那些他没有被犯规却依然得到哨子的时刻。
在最后一段之前，你并没有真正提供任何事实信息，只是在用你自己的观点吹捧亚历山大的能力，其中还夹杂了一些错误陈述。你提到手部纠缠和拉拽手臂，以第二场比赛为例，哈滕施泰因 (Hartenstein) 整场比赛都在故意拉拽文班亚马的手臂，但其中连一半都没吹犯规。相反，SGA在防守人根本没碰到他的情况下起跳中投，落地时故意摔倒，就能轻松得到两次罚球。
我不是什么会去否认未来名人堂成员伟大成就的无脑小鬼，但你对他行为的粉饰实在太不真诚了。我是中立的，既不是马刺球迷也不是雷霆球迷。也许你是个雷霆球迷，这就是你言论中偏见的来源。

Cyrus T G.:

@Zay T. 感谢这篇极佳的帖子。我想恳请大家去看看过去的一位球员，他利用惊人的脚步、投篮假动作和许多其他招式，完全可以随心所欲地走上罚球线。这位球员身体素质平平，个子也不高，但他打出了极其强硬的内线进攻，基本上只要他想就能站上罚球线。他是1976年奥运会金牌得主美国队中最好的球员，并拥有极其出色的NBA生涯。在1987或1988年，他在季后赛中对阵凯尔特人队，当时凯尔特人完全倾尽了整个防守体系来阻止他。尽管如此，他还是经常打爆麦克海尔 (McHale) 并彻底摧毁伯德 (Bird)。
他的名字叫阿德里安·丹特利 (Adrian Dantley)，他并不刻意去碰瓷犯规，而是利用技巧和移动来制造犯规——这正是SGA所做的大部分事情，这也是为什么SGA（和吉米·巴特勒 (Jimmy Butler)）是最像丹特利——这位被遗忘的超级巨星——的两位球员。

Elijah O.:

@Zay T. https://x.com/tomhaberstroh/status/2057821216409293122?s=46
承认他做得有些过了也没关系。你用作参考的球员（迈克尔和科比）在他们的整个职业生涯中从未这样打过球。一次都没有。

Fernando L.:

@Zay T. 根据雅虎体育记者哈伯斯特罗 (Haberstroh) 最近的一份报告，他分析了截至上周的今年季后赛比赛录像：“在没有被吹罚犯规的187次出手尝试中，SGA倒地了20次，比例为10.7%。而被公认为假摔专家的哈登，在219次运动战出手尝试中倒地19次，比例为8.7%。布伦森 (Brunson) 和米切尔 (Mitchell) 的倒地率分别为7.9%和7.6%。
至于文班，在目前为止的季后赛中，他在没有被吹犯规的情况下出手了164次，而他只摔倒了……一次。
现在让我们看看另一类情况，即球员倒地且被吹罚了犯规。吉尔杰斯-亚历山大在被犯规的37次投篮尝试中，有19次摔倒在木地板上。这一比例高达51%。同级别的其他球员中没有人能接近这个数据。
哈登在被犯规的41次投篮中摔倒了12次——占29%。布伦森、米切尔和文班的比例都更低。
当哈伯斯特罗计算所有投篮尝试（无论是否吹罚犯规）的倒地率时，他发现SGA的倒地率高达17%，而哈登为12%，布伦森为9%，米切尔为8%。
文班亚马是最不容易摔倒的，他的运动战投篮倒地率仅为4%。
“为什么与同龄人相比，吉尔杰斯-亚历山大摔倒得如此频繁？”哈伯斯特罗问道。“最简单的答案可能是他受到的犯规比任何人都更狠。愤世嫉俗的观点会说他是想欺骗裁判。一个更有趣但尚未得到科学证实的解释是，他可能是在保护自己的关节免受伤害……”哈哈。最后，尽管假摔是违规的，但今年还没有任何NBA球员因假摔被罚款（我相信甚至没有收到警告）。连SGA也没有。

Elijah O.:

@Fernando L. 是的，我刚才确实发了那篇报告的链接。这就是一个雷霆球迷在故意装糊涂。

Anonymous U.:

我确实懂篮球。而且懂得很。得出雷霆更强这个结论，充其量是对雷霆极大的宽容。雷霆打着一种自私、功利的篮球，其实很难看，有人将其准确地形容为Temu版的活塞队，我还要加上亲以色列游说集团那种戏剧性的胡闹。
更重要的是，裁判显然——显然——在偏袒他们，其方式可以被解读为是为了让这轮系列赛打满7场。而由于抢七在雷霆主场进行，他们因此更有可能获胜。
联盟是有剧本的。我当年看过02年湖人对国王的系列赛，这看起来和那时很像。不过，如果我想欣赏纯粹的篮球，我会去看NCAA。我来看这个只是为了看文班亚马。

Jeremiah O.:

@Anonymous U. 这太疯狂了。如果联盟有捧湖人的剧本，那现在的剧本显然应该是捧文班。而不是雷霆。如果你要戴上阴谋论的锡纸帽，至少得说得通吧。联盟为什么要捧雷霆？

Anonymous U.:

@Jeremiah O. 同意——文班正在被宣传为下一个超级巨星，如果联盟有剧本，那受益的应该是马刺。

Jay K.:

@Anonymous U. 显然不是。仅仅基于这个网站上NBA相关文章下的评论，就极大地加深了我对阴谋论和右翼宣传如何轻易控制一部分美国社会的理解。

Jack S.:

@Anonymous U. 老兄，少抽点叶子吧。

Terence G.:

@Anonymous U. @Anonymous U. “我确实懂篮球。”——这句话加上后面的内容表明，你在开始胡言乱语之前必须先自我吹嘘一番。
看到像你这样的人彻底破防真是太搞笑了。行吧，继续去看文班，并假装你和大家追求的都是什么“道德”篮球。
感谢你带来的喜剧效果。我们都需要一个可以嘲笑的对象……
#雷霆加油！

Tim D.:

@Anonymous U. 匿名用户，如果是我写出你这种胡话，我也不好意思署名。

10838965:

@Jay K. 是啊，搞得好像左翼就不搞阴谋论和宣传一样。真可悲。我个人是一个独立选民。看着双方都在干同样的事情。最黑色幽默的就是像你这样的评论。也许你是个机器人，只是在制造分裂。谁知道呢？但有一点是肯定的——双方都在玩这些阴招。事实是——《华盛顿邮报》做过一项民意调查，42%的民主党选民相信宾夕法尼亚州巴特勒的特朗普暗杀企图是自导自演的。42%！！这太疯狂了。所以别拿这些右翼宣传的鬼话来烦我。双方都有生活在自己版本现实中的极端分子。而像我这样的沉默大多数，则深受其害。你就是问题的一部分。

Joel R.:

@Anonymous U. “我确实懂篮球。而且懂得很。”
然后接着发了几大段被迫害妄想症式的胡言乱语。
你戴着文班牌的滤镜是看不清比赛的。也许他也看不清，这就是为什么他投篮15中4。

Marcus G.:

暗杀企图很可能是自导自演的，因为耳朵软骨是不会再生的，去问问任何医学专业人士吧。那么，你那位橙色救世主是怎么被击中并耳朵流血，却保留了完整的软骨的？泰森 (Tyson) 咬了埃凡德·霍利菲尔德 (Evander Holyfield) 之后，霍利菲尔德的耳朵可没有再长出来。同样奇怪的是，每次他要求他的白宫宴会厅时就会发生暗杀企图，而奥巴马 (Obama) 当了两届总统却一次暗杀企图都没有。

Chris K.:

@Anonymous U. 既然这么难看，但你们这些受虐狂却一场接一场地来看，然后跑来告诉我们这比赛有多难看。

Elijah O.:

@ 所以“相信”一个满嘴谎言、众所周知的公众操纵者用谎言操纵了美国公众，这就是“极端主义”？
双方都在干同样的事吗？我可没看到“左翼”在盲目、激烈地为办公室里那个被定罪的重罪犯、种族主义者、好战分子辩护……所以我不知道这怎么能算是一样的。

Elijah O.:

@S. A. 没人需要告诉别人他是骗子，只要听听他说什么，再看看他做的相反的事就行了，哈哈。
“第一天就让食品和汽油变便宜”……现在去加油站看看，然后回来汇报一下情况吧，老兄。这全是因为你最爱的橙色人想在伊朗玩特种兵游戏。别忘了那些经济学家早就知道会推高通胀的关税，而且确实迅速推高了通胀。所以实际上不仅仅是食品价格上涨，而是你能买到的每一件东西都在涨价。
哦，还有“没有新的外部冲突”……哈哈，那个承诺可没维持多久。
“美国优先”……税收提高了，医疗保险费提高了，拿走20亿美元的美国税款用作他认为合适的人的账外资金。
这可能太近了，那他背着第一任妻子出轨第二任，背着第二任出轨第三任，又背着第三任出轨一个他支付了封口费的艳星，这又怎么说……
我还可以继续说下去。正如我所说，没人需要告诉别人他是骗子，多亏了他自己，把这一切都展示得清清楚楚！
我们真走运！

10838965:

@Elijah O. 只是些蠢货……或者是机器人。嘿，Elijah，这并不难懂——特朗普 (Trump) 撒谎。拜登 (Biden) 也是。民主党直接推出了一个没有经过初选的候选人卡玛拉 (Kamala)，这意味着没有选民投票选她做候选人。民主党内部人士直接挑选了她参选。自现代竞选体制建立以来，这从未发生过。而这还是在他们试图让一个显然患有老年痴呆症、且在总统任期最后两年内本应根据第25条修正案被免职的候选人参选之后。关于拜登不适合担任公职的这一事实，全国媒体直到他同意退选后才承认。然后他们承认他们早就知道这件事，并隐瞒了两年。与此同时，特朗普只是和他的狐朋狗友们在进行历史性规模的撒谎和诈骗。我不会说这是美国历史上最糟糕的，但这绝对值得商榷。绝对可以与格兰特 (Grant) 和哈定 (Harding) 政府并列。这就是问题所在。当一个人真正阅读并理解历史时，就会摆脱党派偏见的夸大其词。我会说哈定政府是美国历史上最腐败的，但鉴于你这么愚蠢，这是一场毫无成效的对话，因为你根本不知道他是谁，也不知道他政府的细节，以及为什么我会认为他的政府比特朗普的更腐败。

jachri.taylor:

我原本支持马刺赢下这轮系列赛，但他们现在完蛋了。
我很惊讶维克托在这场比赛中如此被动，在油漆区外游荡，投了那么多三分球。
当雷霆厚颜无耻地用卡鲁索去防维克托时，维克托应该直接在低位安营扎寨，然后迎着矮他一头的卡鲁索疯狂扣篮，直到把卡鲁索扣到犯规离场为止。
维克托应该感到愤怒——至少是对他自己——因为他在系列赛最重要的一场比赛中表现得如此软弱。他可能会在第六场砍下85分并送出30次盖帽。
对马刺来说，这太少也太迟了。
我现在其实打算在总决赛中支持尼克斯了。如果SGA每假摔一次，他们能投进一半的三分球，尼克斯甚至可能在总决赛中横扫对手。
下个赛季，维克托：对得起你的身价，在油漆区展现统治力吧。

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10838965:

Takeaway - OKC are a team of floppers and engage in basketball that is GROSS to watch.

Hugo M.:

It s a disgrace to whatch this floppers. And it s all trained

alex L.:

@ takeaway - you should go to bed

NICHOLAS P.:

At this point I’m not sure you flopper folks are even watching the game before you post your comments.

Xabi A.:

@NICHOLAS P. They do not its just a thing people say now

Anonymous U.:

@NICHOLAS P. Watching OKC play ball is like watching a team created by AI trained on Temu, the Pistons and soccer players.

Tim D.:

@ San Antonio commenters are from Texas, after all. Explains a lot.

10838965:

@NICHOLAS P. We watch for a bit, then see things like the clown sequence in the third quarter and turn it off.

10838965:

@alex L. I’m touched you care, brings a tear to my eye

Joel R.:

@ oh my god they’re just a basketball team. These takes are so fucking lazy and it’s like y’all have never even watched ball before.
Spurs have the weakest fanbase in the league.

Theodore R.:

@S. A. If OKC are in finals and win a few games I’m looking forward to the necessary logical extension of this ridiculous false narrative: that Silver and the league and its officials are conspiring to award fake fouls to a team from a small flyover market in order to help them beat . . . the NY Knicks! OKC exerting Putin-like blackmailing power over these New Yorkers it would seem.

10838965:

@alex L. Now you’re getting creepy. Is that your go to pickup line?

10838965:

@Joel R. Not a spurs fan moron with the lazy assumption. Just would have liked a well officiated game, and personally don’t enjoy the style of the OKC floppers.

10838965:

@Chris K. I’m crushed. I have received your thorough analysis of my take and will give it the consideration it deserves.

10838965:

@Tim D. So cryptic. What does it explain? That you’re an idiot who has trouble completing thoughts? Not sure why San Antonio commenters being from Texas explains that. And of course we’ll just ignore the fact I’m not a Spurs fan, or that this view I hold - that the OKC floppers are unpleasant to watch is widely held among fanbases across the geographical landscape. For example, Chris Finch, the coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves, went on a rant about this very subject, how blatant and disgusting the flopping and foul baiting and dirty style of play OKC engages in, this very season. And he’s not from Texas. Does him being British coaching in Minnesota explain a lot to you, Tim? Please share your keen insight, we’re all on pins and needles here.

961883:

@ it’s almost as if you didn’t even watch the game. All you people say is the Thunder are floppers. In fact they play an amazing fluid style of selfless ball, with quick touch passes that make the Spurs end up out of position so an open shot is created! It’s actually very aesthetically pleasing if you don’t have an axe to grind.

Jack S.:

The amount of people complaining about the refs here is just sad. OKC is an amazing team and SGA is one of the best scoring guards of the modern era. If you don’t understand basketball, that’s fine, but please spare us of your ‘but the refs!’ hysteria. OKC is just a better team, it’s pretty simple.

Anonymous U.:

I don’t think you know ball very well. You sound like you’re watching the game through Homer colored glasses

Jack S.:

@Anonymous U. Such a brave anonymous user!

10838965:

@Jack S. You’re anonymous as well, Jack

Joel R.:

@Anonymous U. I’m not a fan of either team here and he seems like he knows ball a lot better than all the whiners do.

parkmonkey7:

@Jack S. The Thunder have only one player averaging 35 minutes or more in this series (SGA). The Spurs have four. It is coming down to OKC’s superior depth as the Spurs players burn out over the long haul.

Zay T.:

A ton of people just say SGA flops - if you actually comb through his fouls, there aren’t as many “flops” as you would believe thanks to idiot NBA fans not watching full games and just scrolling through twitter. Meanwhile, SGA continues to score at a solid rate and from the field. Shai’s unorthodox style frustrates defenders and they get extremely physical with them. Kobe and MJ were regular foul baiters, everybody was ok with that. You want the game to become more physical, but when a player takes advantage of that, it’s an issue? That dosen’t make sense. SGA’s unique driving angles and patterns make defenders have to switch their feet and hips multiple times, and they end up bumping into him. Shai takes advantage of that and gets fouled. He’s manipulating defenders, and uses early pickup points to draw contact. His 6’11 wingspan lets him extend to the rim even when he is bumped. The A to C pace pisses off defenders and he capitalizes. Combine that with his elite shotmaking and improved passing process + above average defense and you have the MVP. On top of that, SGA has insane reflexes and abnormal space recognition when he gets touched, letting him either counter or just go up vs the extremely physical defense he’s facing. Let’s add that every defender is handfighting with shai, constantly grabbing and pulling his arms and using illegal contact to gain leverage on his drives: defenders are scared of shai blowing by them, and they use subtle holds. This series, castle is mauling SGA physically right now and people are somehow complaining. Shai is using that to his advantage.
He ranks 10th in FT attempts per FG attempt this year.
(He’s never led the league in that rate, or FTA per game.)
His team is below the league norm in all measures of FTA rate –
per game, per shot, per possession.
SGA had a whopping 32% of his team’s FTA, the 2nd-biggest share.
Seems like SGA has a high FTA rate simply because:
– He takes the 9th-biggest share of his team’s FGA.
– A big share of his FGA are 2-pointers, over 77% – 12th-highest among qualifiers.
– 4th-highest usage rate among qualifiers.

Jamie W.:

@Zay T. Hey….u need to hurry and delete this post….you are not following the NBA Media/Social Media Narrative….rational thinking is not allowed
They whine..We Win!! #ThunderUp!!

Mister Pin K.:

@Zay T. lol seems like SGA has a high FTA rate simply because… he was 3rd in the league in FTA/gm for the regular season and leads the league in FTA per game in the playoffs…
32 points and 16 of those are from the line…

Elijah O.:

@Zay T. People over exaggerate for sure but at the same time it’s disingenuous to insinuate that there aren’t ‘as many as you would believe’. He hits the deck far more than he ever needs to, many times purposefully much like Embiid.
Great player, will have a HOF resume when all said and done if it isn’t confirmed already, but it’s ok to acknowledge that he does do what he’s accused of A Lot. Kobe and MJ simply were not ‘foul baiters’, James Harden perfected that style of play. The 90s weren’t refereed as basketball is now it is quite literally impossible to imply that Kobe and Mike were foul baiters lol. Refs weren’t calling the same fouls they are now, when MJ and Kobe played a foul was a FOUL. You are being negligent to the fact that yes he does draw contact and is fouled on his drives, but it’s the times where he ISNT FOULED and still gets the whistle that fans take ire with.
Until your last paragraph you weren’t really speaking to any factual information just touting Shai’s ability in your opinion with some false statements as well. You talk about hand fighting and pulling arms, game 2 for example hartenstein was pulling Wembanyama’s arms purposefully all game and not even half of those were called fouls. Contrarily, SGA goes up for midrange shots without players touching him with their hands, lands and falls on purpose and is handed 2 free throws.
I am not some delusional kid who is going to deny the greatness of a future HOFer, but you are framing what he is doing incredibly disingenuously. I am neutral here as I am neither a Spurs fan nor a Thunder fan. Perhaps you’re a thunder fan and that’s where the bias was coming from in your statements.

Cyrus T G.:

@Zay T. Thanks for an excellent post. I would implore people to watch a player from the past who used insane footwork, up fakes, and many other moves to absolutely get to the line at will. This player was an average athlete AND not that tall but played a relentless inside game and was able to get to the line basically whenever he wanted. He was the best player on the 1976 gold medial olympic team and had a fantastic NBA career. In 1987 or 1988, he played the Celtics in the playoffs and the Celtics were absolutely tilting their entire defense to stopping him. Nevertheless, he routinely roasted McHale and obliterated Bird.
His name was Adrian Dantley and he didn’t hunt fouls, he used skill and movement to draw fouls - this is the majority of what SGA does which is why SGA (and Jimmy butler) are the two players most like Dantley - a forgotten superstar.

Elijah O.:

@Zay T. https://x.com/tomhaberstroh/status/2057821216409293122?s=46
It is ok to admit that he is doing too much. The players you used as reference (Mike and Kobe) never played like this in their entire career. Not once.

Fernando L.:

@Zay T. According to a recent report based on yahoo sportswriter Haberstroh who analyzed video ftpm this year’s playoff games up to last week: “SGA fell to the floor on 20 of 187 attempts,WHERE NO FOUL WAS CALLED, a rate of 10.7%. Harden, widely regarded as an expert flopper, fell on 19 of 219 field-goal attempts, an 8.7% rate. Brunson and Mitchell had fall rates of 7.9% and 7.6%, respectively.
As for Wemby, he has taken 164 shots so far in the playoffs when no foul was called, and he fell … once.
Now let’s look at the other category, where the player fell and a foul was called. Gilgeous-Alexander hit the hardwood on 19 of 37 shot attempts on which he was fouled. That’s 51%.No one else in the peer group was close.
Harden fell on 12 of 41 shots on which he was fouled — 29%. Brunson, Mitchell and Wemby all had lower rates.
When Haberstroh calculated fall rates for all shot attempts, whether or not a foul was called, he found that SGA fell 17% of the time, compared with 12% for Harden, 9% for Brunson and 8% for Mitchell.
Wembanyama was the least slip-prone, falling on just 4% of his field-goal tries.
“Why does Gilgeous-Alexander fall so much compared to his peers?” Haberstroh asked. "The simplest answer would be that he gets fouled harder than anyone else. A cynical perspective would say he’s trying to dupe referees. A more interesting, though scientifically unproven, explanation is that he may be protecting his joints from harm …” LOL. Finally, though illegal, no NBA player has been fined (or warned i believe) for flopping this year. Not even SGA. “

Elijah O.:

@Fernando L. Yeah I literally tagged the link to that report. This is a thunder fan being purposefully negligent.

Anonymous U.:

I do understand basketball. Quite well. The conclusion the Thunder are better is, at best, very charitable to OKC. OKC plays a cynical brand of basketball that’s actually hard to watch, accurately described by someone as the Temu version of the Pistons, to which I’ll add the histrionic nonsense of a pro-Israel lobby.
More to the point, the officiating clearly- clearly - has favored them in ways that could be concluded to make the series go 7 games. Which they are thus more likely to win as game 7 is in OKC.
The league has an agenda. I watched 02 Lakers Kings and this looks familiar in that way. But also if I want to appreciate ball I watch the NCAA. I only watch this to see Wembanyama.

Jeremiah O.:

@Anonymous U. This is nutty. If the league had an agenda to promote the Lakers, the agenda would clearly be to promote Wemby. Not the thunder. If you’re gonna go tinfoil hat, you should at least make some kind of sense. Why would the league promote OKC?i

Anonymous U.:

@Jeremiah O. Agreed - Wemby is being promoted as the next great thing and if the league had an agenda it would benefit the Spurs

Jay K.:

@Anonymous U. Apparently not. Just based on the comments posted to NBA related articles on this site, it has greatly expanded my understanding on how easily conspiracy theories and right wing propaganda have gotten such a stranglehold on a portion of American society.

Jack S.:

@Anonymous U. Lay off the crack my guy

Terence G.:

@Anonymous U. @Anonymous U. “I do understand basketball.” - That statement along with what followed shows that you have to puff up yourself before you dive into a bunch of drivel.
It is funny to see people like you totally lose it. Sure, go ahead and watch Wemby and pretend like you and are all about “ethical” basketball.
Thanks for the comedy. We all need someone to laugh at…
#ThunderUp!

Tim D.:

@Anonymous U. I wouldn’t put my name to your drivel either, Anonymous.

10838965:

@Jay K. Yeah because the left doesn’t engage in conspiracy theories or propaganda. It’s sad. I personally am an independent voter. Watching both sides engage in the same behavior. The darkly humorous part is the comments like yours. Perhaps you’re a bot, just creating division. Who knows? But one thing that’s known - both sides engage in these dark arts. True statement - the Washington Post did a poll and 42% of Democratic Party voters believe that the Butler, PA Trump assassination attempt was staged. 42%!! That’s nuts. So get out of here with this right wing propaganda stuff. Both sides have extremists who exist in their own version of reality. And the silent majority, like myself, suffer from it. You’re part of the problem.

Joel R.:

@Anonymous U. “I do understand basketball. Quite well.”
Then proceeds to post paragraphs of paranoid nonsense.
You can’t see the game with those Wemby brand glasses on. Maybe he couldn’t see either, which is why he shot 4 for 15.

Marcus G.:

The assassination attempt was likely staged as ear cartilage doesn’t grow back, ask any medical professional. So how did your orange savior get shot and bleed thru his ear but has all his cartilage? Evander Holyfield’s ear didn’t grow back after Tyson bit him. Also weird how every time he demands his WH ballroom there’s an assassination attempt meanwhile Obama made it 2 terms with 0 attempts

Chris K.:

@Anonymous U. It’s so hard to watch, but you gluttons for punishment keep coming back game after game telling us how hard they are to watch.

Elijah O.:

@ so ‘believing’ that a compulsive liar and known manipulator of the American public manipulated the American public with a lie is ‘extremism’?
Do both sides engage in the same behavior? I haven’t seen ‘the left’ mindlessly vehemently defending the convicted felon, PDF, racist, warmonger in office.. so Im unsure if I’d say it’s the same.

Elijah O.:

@S. A. No one has to tell anyone he’s a liar, just listen to what he says and watch him do the opposite lol.
‘Cheap groceries and gas day 1’ … head to the gas station right now and report back on how it’s looking champ. All because your favorite orange man wanted to play commando in Iran. Let’s not forget about those tariffs that economist knew would raise inflation and did just that rapidly. So it’s actually not JUST grocery prices up, but every single thing you could possibly buy.
Oh, how about ‘no new foreign conflicts’… lol, that one didn’t last long.
‘America first’… taxes raised, healthcare premiums raised, taking $2B American tax dollars to use as a slush fund for whoever he deems fit.
That’s too recent I guess, how about cheated on his first wife with the 2nd, 2nd with the 3rd, and 3rd with a pornstar who he paid hush money to…
I could go on further as well. As I said, no one needs to TELL anyone he’s a liar, he does it all himself thankfully!
Lucky us!

10838965:

@Elijah O. Just some really stupid people…or bots. Hey Elijah it’s not hard - Trump lies. So did Biden. The Democrats literally ran a candidate, Kamala, who did not go through a primary, meaning no voter picked her to be the candidate. The Democratic Party insiders just selected her to run. Since the modern advent of the pay system that has never happened before. And that was after they were trying to run a candidate who was clearly suffering from DEMENTIA, and should have been removed from office under the 25th amendment sometime in the last two years of his presidency. This fact, about Biden being unfit for office, was acknowledged by the national media only after he agreed to not run. Then they admitted they had known about it, and covered it up for two years. Meanwhile Trump is just out here lying and grifting along with his buddies, at a historic scale. I won’t say it’s the worst in the history of the US, but it’s certainly debatable. Definitely up there with Grrant’s and Harding’s administrations. See that’s the thing. When one actually reads, and understands history, one gets away from the hyperbole of partisans. I would say Harding’s administration is the most corrupt in US history, but seeing how stupid you are, it’s an unproductive conversation because you have no idea who he was or the details of his administration and why I might think his administration was more corrupt than Trump’s.

jachri.taylor:

I was rooting for the spurs to win this series but they are done now.
I’m surprised at how passive Victor was in this game, dancing around outside the paint & throwing up all those 3-pt attempts.
when okc had UNMITIGATED GALL to plat caruso on Victor, Victor should have set up a sleeping bag in the lower post & then simply DUNK over the foot-shorter caruso until caruso fouled out.
Victor ought to be angry - at least at himself - for coming up so weakly in the most important game of the series. he will probably score 85 points in game 6 & have 30 blocked shots.
too little, too late for the spurs.
I am actually going to root for the KNICKS in the finals now. if they make half as many 3s for each time sga FLOPS, the knicks might sweep the finals too.
next season, Victor : earn your money & DOMINATE in the paint.

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