By Jeje Gomez | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-10-01 00:05:00
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相比联盟中其他的双核，你如何评价马刺队维克托·文班亚马和德阿隆·福克斯的王牌二人组？
玛里琳·杜宾斯基 (Marilyn Dubinski): 我真希望我们能有超过五场比赛的样本来观察他们俩的搭档效果，但即便如此，他们也绝对是联盟前十的水准，这是最差的情况。两人都能在挡拆进攻中扮演任何角色，并且都具备足够的外线威胁，能为内线拉开空间（尽管他俩的投射都还有提升空间）。当然，联盟中还有一些已经证明过自己的二人组排在他们前面（例如雷霆的谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山德 (SGA) 和杰伦·威廉姆斯 (Jalen Williams)，独行侠的卢卡·东契奇 (Luka Doncic) 和湖人的勒布朗·詹姆斯 (LeBron James)，以及勇士的斯蒂芬·库里 (Steph Curry) 和他现在的二当家，等等），但只要文班和福克斯能保持健康，并产生我们所期待的化学反应，他们的排名就能迅速攀升。
雅各布·道格拉斯 (Jacob Douglas): 这听起来可能有点疯狂，但我把马刺这对二人组排在全联盟第六（不考虑那些将因伤缺席大量比赛的球员）。在我看来，雷霆、掘金、尼克斯、森林狼和湖人队的明星二人组要强于文班和福克斯。其中最大的变数显然是文班亚马。如果他本赛季能成为联盟前五的球员——而且有明显迹象表明他可以做到——那这对组合的下限就会非常高。如果福克斯能恢复到他入选全明星那个赛季的产出水平，那将把这个二人组乃至整支球队提升到一个全新的高度。
德文·伯德桑 (Devon Birdsong): 如果说雅各布的看法听起来疯狂，那我可能就纯属痴人说梦了，但如果我们只考虑得分能力，他们很可能在这方面排进联盟前三。有一点可能被大家忽略了，那就是文班在他饱受血栓困扰的二年级赛季，场均得分已接近25分（而且他的场均得分从未低于21分）。而福克斯，除了职业生涯中有过单场60分的表现外，他还是NBA历史上除了威尔特·张伯伦 (Wilt Chamberlain) 和科比·布莱恩特 (Kobe Bryant) 之外，唯一一位能在连续两场比赛中总共砍下109分以上的球员。除了勒布朗·詹姆斯 (Lebron James) 和卢卡·东契奇 (Luke Doncic)，尼古拉·约基奇 (Nikola Jokic) 和贾马尔·穆雷 (Jamal Murray)，以及谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大 (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) 和杰伦·威廉姆斯 (Jalen Williams) 之外，我很难想到还有哪对组合拥有如此强大的火力。真正的问题在于，福克斯的防守能有多好？尽管他曾领跑联盟抢断榜，也获得过最佳防守阵容的选票，但他还从未入选过最佳防守阵容。如果他做到了，那么这对组合可以说能排进联盟前二。
杰杰·戈麦斯 (Jeje Gomez): 假设他们磨合顺利（考虑到福克斯的伤病问题，这在赛季初并非理所当然），他们有潜力成为联盟前五的二人组。福克斯曾打出过场均25分、4篮板、6助攻外加几次抢断的数据，而且他至少是一位积极的持球点防守者。文班的上限深不可测，但他已经是联盟中最具破坏力的内线防守者，场均能贡献24分和11个篮板，同时他既是一个恐怖的空接威胁，也是一个不错的外线射手。雷霆、湖人和骑士队的二人组目前领先一步。但如果马刺的双星能完美融合，他们将跻身联盟顶级组合的行列。
你认为本赛季马刺队的首发阵容会是怎样？谁又将成为板凳席上出场时间最多的球员？
杜宾斯基: 我认为福克斯、斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle)、德文·瓦塞尔 (Devin Vassell) 和文班是雷打不动的首发，最大的悬念在于大前锋位置上是选择哈里森·巴恩斯 (Harrison Barnes) 还是杰里米·索汉 (Jeremy Sochan)。两人能为阵容带来不同的元素，但如果球队真的想看看索汉在他最擅长的位置上，不再被当作“试验品”时能打出什么水平，那么至少应该给他一个机会。如果事实证明，这套充满“有潜力但未经证明”的射手阵容需要更多进攻火力，他们随时可以重新启用巴恩斯。至于替补席，我猜凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 将继续担任第六人，无论是在角色定位上还是在替补出场时间上。
道格拉斯: 我猜我们这个赛季会看到很多不同的阵容组合。马刺拥有足够的深度和多功能性来应对难缠的对位。揭幕战上，我心目中的首发五人是：福克斯、卡斯尔、瓦塞尔、巴恩斯和文班亚马。我能预见到在某些比赛中，科内特会出任首发中锋，卡斯尔则回到替补席，其余阵容相应地向上摇摆。如果哈珀和尚帕尼偶尔客串首发，我也不会感到惊讶。核心替补阵容很可能是索汉、哈珀、约翰逊、尚帕尼和科内特。我认为奥利尼克只会在特定的对位中发挥作用，并预计布莱恩特本赛季大部分时间将在奥斯汀（发展联盟球队）度过。
伯德桑: 这是一个艰难的抉择，因为索汉和巴恩斯都能为球队带来对方（目前）无法提供的东西。马刺队迫切需要索汉的篮板和巴恩斯的精准投射，除非索汉的远投能力大幅提升，否则这看起来像是在二者之间做出一个苏菲的选择。除非出现意料之外的进步，如果他们的首发位置取决于米奇·约翰逊 (Mitch Johnson) 对场上对位的判断，我一点也不会意外。我猜测，在福克斯、卡斯尔、瓦塞尔、文班亚马的阵容中，索汉将获得绝大部分的首发机会，因为科内特可以在替补席上撑起篮板重任，但如果瓦塞尔状态有些挣扎（或者再次因伤倒下），我预计巴恩斯会得到更多的首发机会。就目前而言，我认为他（巴恩斯）会是替补席上出场时间最多的球员，不过如果马刺开始尝试双塔阵容，科内特会是一个真正的威胁。
戈麦斯: 我希望约翰逊（教练）能排出的首发阵容是：福克斯 – 瓦塞尔 – 尚帕尼 – 巴恩斯 – 文班亚马。就是围绕福克斯和文班亚马配置纯射手，瓦塞尔则作为第三组织点。不过，我怀疑这不太可能发生，因为可以理解的是，卡斯尔和索汉中至少会有一人、甚至两人都可能首发。一套由福克斯 – 瓦塞尔 – 索汉 – 巴恩斯 – 文班亚马组成的阵容看起来足够均衡，这样可以让卡斯尔在替补席上成为主要的外线创造者，由约翰逊和哈珀分担控球任务。
如果必须选一位马刺球员在本赛季迎来惊喜并打出生涯年，你会选谁？
杜宾斯基: 如果马刺能让索汉在他熟悉的位置上打球，我认为他能带来惊喜并证明自己的真正价值。他的外线投篮姿势已显现出进步的迹象，当他没有受到伤病困扰或被迫打不熟悉的位置时，他的表现一直非常稳健。第二人选则是瓦塞尔或约翰逊，期待他们能找回我们过去几个赛季见过的巅峰状态。当然，他们俩都不会再是球队的头号得分手，但在最佳状态下，他们将是这支球队完美的角色球员，并继续作为未来核心的一部分。
道格拉斯: 不确定这算不算惊喜，但我非常看好新赛季的瓦塞尔。他是NBA中最有天赋的第四进攻选择之一（前提是卡斯尔能在他的最佳新秀赛季基础上更进一步，并成为马刺明确的第三号人物）。随着福克斯和卡斯尔分担了瓦塞尔的持球任务，这将让他有更多机会打无球，成为一名定点投手，既能攻击对手的扑防，也能在需要时持球得分。如果他能欣然接受并扮演好外线无球杀手的角色，我认为外界对瓦塞尔的评价将会发生积极的转变。
伯德桑: 我认为这个人必须是索汉。他训练刻苦，而且本赛季几乎肯定能摆脱试验品的角色，这是头一回。我想很多人可能没注意到，上赛季的二月和三月，他的三分命中率达到了40%（尽管出手次数不多），如果他能在此基础上继续进步，他同样能让很多非马刺球迷大吃一惊。如果他至少能在底角投出布鲁斯·鲍文 (Bruce Bowen) 般的水准，就将彻底改变首发阵容的面貌，而他自己也将变得几乎不可替代。他基本上会成为一个拥有三分能力的弱化版丹尼斯·罗德曼 (Dennis Rodman)。太可怕了。
戈麦斯: 瓦塞尔可能会迎来大爆发的一年。在扮演一个戏份更少的角色后，他的效率和稳定性很可能会切实提升，而且他在上赛季末段展现出的防守表现，让我们有理由对他的攻防潜力感到乐观。瓦塞尔能拿到大合同的原因之一，就是他的比赛风格能够轻松适配多种体系，所以阵容的变化对他造成的影响，可能不像对其他球员那么大。只要保持健康，他就能在文班和福克斯身边，确立自己核心球员的地位。
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What the 2025/26 Spurs rotation should look like
Where do you rank the Spurs’ one-two punch of Victor Wembanyama and De’Aaron Fox compared to other two-star cores in the league?
Marilyn Dubinski: I wish we had more than five games of watching the two together to go by, but they are definitely top 10 at worst. Both could play either side of the pick-and-roll, and both at least require enough respect from the outside to open things up down low (although they could also both be better). There are certainly more proven duos ahead of them (SGA and Jalen Williams, Luka Doncic and LeBron James, Steph Curry and whoever his no. 2 should be at this point, to name a few), but Wemby and Fox can rise quickly if they both stay healthy and click the way we expect them to.
Jacob Douglas: This might sound crazy, but I have the Spurs duo 6th in the NBA (not counting players who are going to miss significant time from injury). I’d take the star duos from the Thunder, Nuggets, Knicks, Timberwolves, and Lakers over Wemby and Fox. The big differentiator is obviously Wembanyama. If he’s a top-5 player in the league this season, and there are significant signs he can be, that gives this duo a high floor. If Fox can get back to the level of production in his All-Star season, it can elevate this duo, and the team overall, to another stratosphere.
Devon Birdsong: If Jacob sounds crazy, I might sound downright deranged, but if we’re taking into account just the scoring, they could very well be Top 3 in that respect. It got kind of lost in the way their seasons ended, but Wemby was averaging just shy of 25ppg as a sophomore while dealing with blood clots (and has never averaged less than 21ppg). In addition to having a 60-point game on his resume, Fox is the only player in NBA history other than Wilt Chamberlain and Kobe Bryant to score 109+ points in back-to-back outings. Outside of Lebron James and Luke Doncic, Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray, and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Williams, I’m hard-pressed to think of another duo with that kind of firepower. The real question is, how good can Fox be on defense? Even though he’s led the league in steals and received votes for All-Defense, he hasn’t made an All-Defensive Team yet. If he does, they’re arguably Top 2.
Jeje Gomez: Assuming they mesh well (which is not a given early in the season, especially with the injury questions surrounding Fox), they could be a top 5 duo. Fox has averaged 25-4-6 with a couple of steals before, and he’s at the very least a willing point-of-attack defender. Wemby’s ceiling is impossible to define, but he’s already the most disruptive interior defender in the league and averaged 24 and 11 while being both a terrifying lob threat and a decent outside shooter. The Thunder, Lakers, and Cavaliers duos are a step ahead. But if everything clicks for the Spurs’ stars, they could be among the best in the league.
Who do you think will start, and who do you think will get the most minutes off the bench for the Spurs this season?
Dubinski: I think Fox, Stephon Castle, Devin Vassell and Wemby are given, with the biggest question being Harrison Barnes or Jeremy Sochan at PF. Both bring different elements to the unit, but if they really want to see what they have in Sochan at his natural position without being “experimented with”, then he should at least be given the chance. If it turns out that a unit full of “potential but not proven” shooters needs more offensive help, they can always go back to Barnes. As for the bench, I imagine Keldon Johnson will remain the 6th man, both in terms of role and minutes played off the bench.
Douglas: My guess is we’ll see a lot of different lineup variations this season. The Spurs have the depth and versatility to adapt to difficult matchups. On opening night, my starting five looks like Fox, Castle, Vassell, Barnes and Wembanyama. I could see nights where Kornet fills the starting center role, pushing Castle to the bench, and the rest of the lineup shifting up. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Harper and Champagnie get spot starts here and there. The core bench group will likely be Sochan, Harper, Johnson, Champagnie and Kornet. I see Olynyk factoring in only in certain matchups, and expect Bryant to spend the majority of the season in Austin.
Birdsong: It’s a tough call because both Sochan and Barnes add something to the group that the other (thus far) cannot.The Spurs badly need both Sochan’s rebounding and Barnes’ marksmanship, and unless Sochan’s long-distance shooting is much improved, it looks to be a Sophie’s Choice of one or the other. Barring unforeseen improvement, I wouldn’t be surprised to see their starts depending on Mitch Johnson’s perception of matchups. My guess is that Sochan will get the lion’s share of the starts in a Fox, Castle, Vassell, Wemby lineup, since Kornet can hold down rebounding for the bench, but if Vassell scuffles a bit (or again goes down to injury), I’d expect Barnes to see more starts. For now, I think he’ll lead the bench in minutes, though Kornet is a real threat if the Spurs start going for 2-Big lineups.
Gomez: The starting lineup I wished Johnson would use would be Fox – Vassell – Champagnie – Barnes – Wembanyama. Just shooters around Fox and Wemby, with Vassell as the tertiary creator. I doubt that’s likely to happen, though, as understandably one or both of Castle and Sochan will probably start. A Fox – Vassell – Sochan – Barnes – Wembanyama looks balanced enough, and it would free Castle to be the main perimeter creator off the bench, with Johnson and Harper sharing the ball-handling burden.
If you had to pick one Spur to surprise and have a career year, who’d you pick?
Dubinski: If the Spurs play him in his natural element, I think Sochan can surprise and prove his true worth. His outside shooting form has shown signs of improving, and when he hasn’t been hampered by injury or playing out of position, he has looked very solid. Runner-up would be either Vassell or Johnson returning to their best form that we’ve seen in seasons past. Of course, neither is going to be the leading scorer again, but at their best they would be perfect role players for this squad and remain a part of the core going forward.
Douglas: Not sure if it’s a surprise, but I’m high on Vassell coming into the season. He’s one of the most talented 4th options in the NBA (if Castle builds upon his ROY season and is the Spurs’ clear number 3). With Fox and Castle taking ball-handling responsibilities away from Vassell, it’ll give him more opportunities to play off the ball as a spot-up shooter who can attack closeouts or score off the bounce when needed. If he buys into being an off-ball assassin from deep, I think a lot of the conversations around Vassell will change for the positive.
Birdsong: I think it’s got to be Sochan. He’s a hard worker and will almost certainly get to spend most of the year in a non-experimental role for once. I think it kind of went unnoticed that he shot 40% from three in February and March of last season (albeit on a low number of attempts), and if he’s able to build on that, he could shock a lot of non-Spurs fans as well. If he can at least get Bruce Bowen-esque from the corners, it completely changes the complexion of that starting lineup, and he becomes all but irreplaceable. He’d basically be Rodman-lite with a three-ball. Scary.
Gomez: Vassell could have a massive year. In a smaller role, his efficiency and consistency could realistically rise, and the defense he was playing late last season provides reasons for optimism about his two-way potential. One of the reasons Vassell got paid is that his game simply fits a lot of different styles, so the changes shouldn’t affect him as much as they might other players. If he’s healthy, he could establish himself as a core guy next to Wemby and Fox.
By Jeje Gomez, via Pounding The Rock