[PtR] Pounding the Rock马刺队史一对一锦标赛:精英八强

By Jacob Douglas | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-09-14 21:23:33

由生成式人工智能翻译,译文内容可能不准确或不完整,以原文为准。

我们现在进入终局之战。圣安东尼奥马刺队剩下的这八位球员,无一不是全明星和名人堂成员。甜蜜十六强赛带来了一些有趣的对决,但最终的投票结果却呈现出一边倒的局面。本轮比赛应该会更加激烈,其中不乏一些重量级的强强对话。

官方投票结果及百分比如下所示:

在进入对决分析之前,我们先重温一下比赛规则:

  • 每位球员都处于其马刺生涯的巅峰时期。因此,像科怀·伦纳德 (Kawhi Leonard) 或多米尼克·威尔金斯 (Dominique Wilkins) 这样的球员,代表的是他们在马刺时的巅峰赛季,而非其整个职业生涯的最佳状态。
  • 锦标赛采用传统的一对一规则。半场,比赛采用11分制(普通进球计1分,三分球计2分),直接分出胜负,不允许拼抢进攻篮板,得分后在中圈重新发球。本次比赛中,我们将采用轮换球权制,而非“进球方继续进攻”。
  • 单败淘汰赛制。一旦球员失利,即被淘汰。

请在下方的投票中为您心目中的精英八强赛获胜者投票。

蒂姆·邓肯 (1) vs. 拉马库斯·阿尔德里奇 (8)

Marilyn: 对我们特别有利的是,我们实际上亲眼见过很多次这场对决,包括两人都处于或接近巅峰状态的时候。值得一提的是,在邓肯时代,开拓者队是少数对阵马刺战绩较好的球队之一(虽然胜率仍未过半),而阿尔德里奇也并非一个容易对付的球员。但在一对一的情况下,蒂姆依然会主宰这场对决。阿尔德里奇能得一些分,但他无法防住拥有无解打板和低位技术的巅峰邓肯。

Jacob: 这是本轮比赛中我认为唯一一场不会很胶着的对决。阿尔德里奇是一位杰出的得分手,也是2010年代最富观赏性的低位球员之一,但在史上最佳大前锋面前,他毫无胜算。邓肯是更好的防守者,并且拥有足够的进攻火力,足以击败阿尔德里奇,挺进最终四强。

Jesus: 阿尔德里奇在波特兰时堪称“马刺杀手”。马刺的防守在面对能在外线投篮的大个子时总是很吃力,而阿尔德里奇是史上最擅长长两分的球员之一。话虽如此,这是一场一对一的战斗,巅峰时期的蒂姆·邓肯比那些只见过他生涯末期表现的人所想象的要灵活得多。而且,蒂米的单打能力也比人们普遍认为的要强得多。曾几何时,马刺的进攻战术就是“把球运过半场,然后传给低位的蒂姆”。我可以想象阿尔德里奇在“大基本功”面前命中一些高难度的翻身跳投,但一个全神贯注的邓肯应该能相对轻松地赢下比赛。

J.R.: 我至今还记得,观看拉马库斯·阿尔德里奇打马刺时总能迎来爆发,这在我看来是家常便饭,以至于每次在赛程表上看到开拓者,我就感觉阿尔德里奇又要砍下40分了。所以我认为,有必要承认邓肯时代的马刺防守策略常常会有意放任对手投长两分。另一点:阿尔德里奇对他那招右肩翻身跳投的钟爱,就像我爱我的孩子一样,而且每次他面对蒂米时,这招都准得离谱。说了这么多,我的结论是:我毫不怀疑“大基本功”在防守时能给阿尔德里奇造成足够的麻烦,而他在进攻端能随心所欲地得分,这一点更是不言而喻。蒂姆晋级。

马努·吉诺比利 (5) vs. 科怀·伦纳德 (4)

Marilyn: 唉,这真令人心痛。马努是他那个时代最具创造力的得分手之一,但如果说有哪个球员是为防守他而生的,那一定是科怀。尽管说出来很痛苦,但如果他能防住勒布朗、杜兰特等人,他就能防住马努。同时,科怀也拥有足够的进攻手段来对抗马努独特的得分方式。所以很不幸,这一次我必须理性战胜感性,选择科怀。

Jacob: 这对马努来说是个极其残酷的抽签。如果对上其他几位后卫,比如格文或帕克,我认为他还有一战之力。但科怀是另一个级别的猛兽。在他马刺生涯的巅峰期,科怀是总决赛MVP和常规赛MVP候选人,也是NBA最强的防守球员。马努是球迷的宠儿,一个出色且富有创造力的球员,本应在一对一的环境中大放异彩。但这对他来说确实是一个糟糕的对位,我必须选择科怀。

Jesus: 在马努的整个职业生涯中,他让质疑者打脸的次数比大多数球星都要多。即便面对科怀,我也不会完全将他排除在外。但伦纳德在这场对决中应该是绝对的热门。即便是马刺时期的他,也已经是一位无人能挡的中距离杀手,他能用力量挤开比他快的对手到达投篮点,也能用弹跳在比他高的防守者面前出手。同时,他也是有史以来最具统治力的外线防守者之一。吉诺比利会奋力拼搏,会想方设法得分和完成抢断,但最终,我认为科怀会晋级。

J.R.: 这场对决归根结底在于两点:速度和力量。尽管我极不情愿这么说,但我认为伦纳德在这两方面都占有优势。即便马努能瞬间让科怀失去平衡,但“外甥”能够利用他更强的身体质量将吉诺比利挤出自己的进攻路线。说出这些话让我毫无乐趣,因为马努是我有史以来最喜欢的球员。但我认为他赢下这场对决的概率不会超过百分之二十——这个数字可能还偏高了,因为我作为球迷的私心不容许我给得更低。伦纳德晋级。

乔治·格文 (3) vs. 托尼·帕克 (6)

Marilyn: 我们迎来了马刺队史上两位更出色、更富创造力的得分手之间的对决,但这一次,托尼的身材将成为他真正的致命伤。“冰人”的身高臂长、技术狡猾且富有创造力,这让托尼在防守端几乎没有机会。或许他在进攻端能跟上一段时间,但他无法通过防守完成逆袭。

Jacob: 托尼·帕克在这次锦标赛中大部分时间都被低估了,他刚刚在一场险胜肖恩·埃利奥特 (Sean Elliott) 的比赛中晋级。但他的征程到此为止了,他将面对身材更高、得分能力更强的格文。不过,这会是一场苦战。我最终认为帕克在一对一中防不住“冰人”。帕克会通过一些创造性的篮下终结得到一些分数,让比赛保持悬念,但他无法完成逆袭,格文将挺进最终四强。

Jesus: 两人在面对彼此时都能轻松得分,在这样一场以进攻为主的较量中,“冰人”应该会胜出。身材优势太过巨大,以至于我认为托尼甚至无法干扰到格文,后者可以轻松地拔起命中一个又一个的跳投,或者用身体碾压到篮下。帕克在面对“冰人”时应该也能轻松得分,但格文6英尺7英寸的身高至少让他有机会去干扰一些投篮。这场对决会极富观赏性,由于防守成功率会很低,比分会很接近,但格文应该会赢。

J.R.: 指尖挑篮对决抛投。丝滑跳投与全速360度转身的较量。天啊,这绝对是一场值得细细品味的对决。我们这位法兰西友人会全力以赴,但我认为格文不会像帕克那样被对方的防守所困扰。我非常乐意买票观看这场战斗,因为我确实认为这会是一场鏖战,但我看好“冰人”最终胜出。

大卫·罗宾逊 (2) vs. 维克托·文班亚马 (7)

Marilyn: 终于来了。如果文班被分到签表的另一半区,这场对决很可能就是最终的决赛。这两位球员之间的相似与不同之处简直令人疯狂。他们都是身高七英尺以上、天赋异禀的怪物,是飞天遁地的扣将,是盖帽高手,并且都具备年度最佳防守球员和MVP级别/获奖的实力。至于他们的不同之处,罗宾逊在身体和力量房里会碾压文班,但文班拥有身高优势,以及更出色的远投能力——这很可能就是克制“海军上将”超强力量的关键。尽管说起来很奇怪,但我认为这位三年级球员将以毫厘之差爆冷击败这位传奇。

Jacob: 啊,我们翘首以盼的对决。我已经思考了好几天了。文班亚马在对抗高大强壮的防守者时会很挣扎,即使对方比他矮。他能防守任何人,但得分是个问题。我认为这可能更多地与球队体系有关,而非他个人的一对一能力。最终我的决定归结于此:我更喜欢文班。在篮球场上,你很难找到他做不到的事情,我拒绝去赌一个能投后撤步三分的7英尺4英寸球员会输。“海军上将”是历史级的伟大球员,但我认为文班天赋更高,即使作为一名更年轻的球员也能赢下这场对决。这太难抉择了。未来已来,老家伙。文班亚马晋级。

Jesus: 这场对决与帕克对格文的比赛正好相反,将是一场史诗级的防守大战。文班亚马在进攻端的射程上占有优势,而罗宾逊则拥有明显的力量优势。比赛的胜负将取决于细节,而经验更丰富的球员应该能够胜出。巅峰时期的罗宾逊面对过一些史上最强的中锋,虽然他并非总能占上风,但所有这些经验都应该能派上用场。文班的控球不稳,他有时在身体对抗上会很吃力。“海军上将”会紧紧贴住他,让他打得不舒服。他会用身体一路碾到内线,直冲文班的胸口,让他失去防守位置。一个更成熟的文班亚马或许能击败“50号”,但21岁版本的他,在面对一个同样拥有变态身体天赋且懂得如何给他制造麻烦的对手时,会非常挣扎。

J.R.: 在我看来,这场对决的决定性因素是射程。如果这次比赛采用两分和三分制,对大卫来说已经够难了,但这可是一分和两分制的比赛,文班在三分线外投进的每一个球,价值都是大卫一个普通进球的两倍。在如此多相似之处的对决中,一点点优势就足以打破平衡。而这一次,这个因素并非微不足道。文班热衷于在外线开火,他勇于接受挑战,并且能够连续命中数球。大卫无法跟上一个能在全场任何位置都给他制造麻烦,同时还能顶住他的最佳防守压力、运球侧步后仰命中三分的家伙。文班晋级。

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Pounding the Rock’s All-Time Spurs 1-on-1 Tournament: Elite Eight

We’re in the endgame now. The remaining eight San Antonio Spurs are All-Stars and Hall-Of-Famers. The Sweet Sixteen brought intriguing matchups, but ultimately the voting was lopsided for the winners. This round should be much closer with some heavy hitting matchups.

The official results, with voting percentages is in the bracket below:

Here is a reminder of the rules before we get into the matchups:

  • Each player is at the prime of their Spurstenure. So someone like Kawhi Leonard or Dominique Wilkins would represent their peak season as a Spur, not the best of their career.
  • Assume traditional 1-on-1 rules for the tournament. Half court, games to 11 straight up (ones and twos), no offensive rebounds, and checking the ball after a score. For this exercise, we’ll be alternating possessions, so no “make it, take it.”
  • Single elimination tournament bracket. If a player loses, they are done.

Vote in the polls below for the winners of the Elite Eight round.

Tim Duncan (1) vs. LaMarcus Aldridge (8)

Marilyn: It is especially helpful that we actually saw this matchup plenty in person, including with both at or near the primes. It’s worth noting that the Trail Blazers had one of the better records against the Spurs during the Duncan era (although not a winning one), and Aldridge wasn’t an easy cover, but Tim would still own this matchup one-on-one. LMA will get some points, but he can’t defend prime Duncan with his banker and post game.

Jacob: This is the only matchup of this round that I don’t think will be close. Aldridge is an awesome scorer and one of the most fun post-players of the 2010s, but he has nothing on the best power forward of all time. Duncan is the better defender, and has enough offense to take out Aldridge on his way to the Final Four.

Jesus: Aldridge was a Spurs killer when he was in Portland. The defense really struggled to contain big men who could shoot from the perimeter, and LA was one of the best ever at the long twos. That said, this is a one-on-one battle, and prime Tim Duncan was a lot more mobile than people who saw him late in his career think. Timmy was also a much better one-on-one player than people give him credit for. At one point, the offense was “walk the ball up and pass it to Tim in the post.” I can see Aldridge hitting some tough turnaround jumpers on Big Fun, but a locked-in Duncan should win this relatively easily.

J.R.: I remember watching LaMarcus Aldridge light up the Spurs in (what seemed to me) such a regular way that I was ready to pencil LMA down for 40 every time I saw Portland on the schedule. So I think it’s important to acknowledge that the Spurs defense in The Age of Duncan often focused on letting players take long twos. Another point: Aldridge loved that over-the-right-shoulder turn-around jumper like I love my kids, and it was like he forgot to miss every time he lined up against Timmy. All that to say that there’s not a doubt in my mind that Big Fun is able to bother Aldridge enough while guarding him, and it goes without saying that he’ll score at will when he has the ball. Tim advances.

Manu Ginobili (5) vs. Kawhi Leonard (4)

Marilyn: Well, this hurts. Manu is one of the most creative scorers of his era, but if there was a player built to stop him, it’s Kawhi. Painful as it is to say, if he could stop LeBron, Durant, etc., he can stop Manu. He also has the offensive game to counter Manu’s unique scoring, so this is unfortunately one of those times I have to go with brain over heart and pick Kawhi.

Jacob: This is a brutal pull for Manu. Against some of the other guards left, like Gervin and Parker, I think he stands a chance. Kawhi is another beast. At his Spurs peak, Kawhi was a Finals MVP and regular season MVP candidate. He was the best defensive player in the NBA. Manu is a fan favorite, and an awesome, creative player who should thrive in 1-on-1 settings. This is just a bad matchup for him, and I have to go with Kawhi.

Jesus: Manu made the people who doubted him look silly more often than most stars throughout his career. I wouldn’t completely count him out, even against Kawhi. But Leonard should be a heavy favorite in this matchup. Even the Spurs version was an unstoppable midrange assassin who used his strength to get to his spots against quicker guys and his elevation to shoot over taller defenders. He was also one of the most dominant perimeter defenders anyone has ever seen. Ginobili would fight and would find ways to get buckets and stops, but ultimately, I think Kawhi advances.

J.R.: This matchup comes down to two things: quickness and strength, and as much as it pains me to say it, I think Leonard has the edge in both categories. Even if Manu can get Kawhi momentarily off-balance, The Nephew is able to use his superior mass to shove Ginobili off his path. It brings me no joy to say this, because Manu is my favorite player of all time. But I don’t see him winning this matchup more often than 20 times out of a hundred — and that might still be high because my fan’s heart won’t let me go any lower. Leonard advances.

George Gervin (3) vs. Tony Parker (6)

Marilyn: We have two of the better, more creative scorers in Spurs history, but this time Tony’s size really will be his downfall. The Iceman is just too long, crafty and creative for Tony to stand a chance on defense. He may keep up for a while on offense, but he won’t be able to get the stops to pull off the upset.

Jacob: TP has been underestimated for most of the tournament, and is coming off a close victory over Sean Elliott. His run ends here against the bigger, and more prolific Gervin. This is a battle, though. I ultimately don’t think Parker can guard the Iceman 1-on-1. Parker puts up some points with some creative finishes inside to keep it close, but he can’t pull off the upset as Gervin moves on to the final four.

Jesus: Both guys would score easily against each other, and in such an offensively-oriented battle, The Iceman should prevail. The size advantage is too massive, to the point I don’t think Tony would even bother Gervin, who could simply pull up and hit jumper after jumper or muscle his way to the rim. Parker should also have an easy time scoring on Ice, but the 6’7 frame of Gervin at least gives him a chance to contest some shots. It would be an insanely fun matchup to see, and few stops means it would be close, but Gervin should win,

J.R.: Finger-roll against Teardrop. Silky smooth jumper vs. full-speed 360 spin moves. Man, would this be a matchup to savor. Our oui-Frenchman would give it his all, but I don’t think Gervin would be bothered by Tony’s defense as much as Parker would be stymied by George’s. I’d gladly pay the admission to watch this battle, because I do think it’d be hard fought, but I see The Iceman Prevailing.

David Robinson (2) vs. Victor Wembanyama (7)

Marilyn: And here is. This could just as easily have been the Finals if Wemby had landed on the other side of the bracket. The similarities and differences between these two are wild. Both are 7-foot-plus freaks of nature, high-flying dunkers, prolific blockers, and are both DPOY and MVP-caliber/winning players. As for their differences, Robinson would overwhelm Wemby physically and in the weight room, but Wemby has the height advantage, as well as a better ability to shoot away from the basket — which very well may be the key to countering the Admiral’s superior strength. Weird as it is to say, the third-year player upsets the legend by a hair.

Jacob: Ah. The matchup we’ve all been waiting for. I’ve been thinking about this for a few days. Wembanyama struggles against big, physical defenders, even if they are shorter than him. He can defend anyone, but scoring is an issue. I think that may have more to do with the team situation, rather than his one-on-one capabilities. Ultimately my decision comes down to this: I like Wemby more. It’s hard to find something on the basketball court he can’t do, and I refuse to bet against a 7-foot-4 player who can hit step back three-pointers. The Admiral is an all-time great, but I think Wemby has more talent, and can win this matchup even as a younger player. This is tough. The future is now, old man. Wembanyama advances.

Jesus: The opposite of the Parker vs. Gervin matchup. A defensive battle for the ages. Wembanyama has the edge in terms of range on offense, while Robinson has a significant strength advantage. It would come down to the little things, and the more experienced player should be able to prevail. Peak Robinson faced some of the best centers ever and while he didn’t always come out on top, all that experience should come in handy. Wemby has a loose handle. He struggles with physicality at times. The Admiral would crowd him and get him uncomfortable. He would just muscle his way inside and go right into Wemby’s chest to get him out of position. A more mature Wembanyama would probably beat 50, but the 21-year-old version would really struggle against someone who has similarly freakish physical tools and also the knowledge to give him trouble.

J.R.: The deciding factor to me in this matchup is range. It would be tough enough for David if this tournament was twos and threes, but this is a ones and twos game, and everything Wemby makes from behind the arc is worth twice one of David’s standard shots. In a matchup with so many similarities, it doesn’t take much to tip the scales. In this case, the factor isn’t slight. Wemby lives to go off from deep, he rises to a challenge, and he can make several in a row. David can’t keep up against a guy who can bother him all over the court, while taking his best pressure and dribble side-stepping into a fadeaway three. Wemby advances.

By Jacob Douglas, via Pounding The Rock

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