By Jeje Gomez, Marilyn Dubinski, Mark Barrington, Jacob Douglas | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-05-14 07:08:28
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马刺队是顺位提升的球队之一,现在他们将需要在第二顺位上做出一些有趣的决定。
马刺队拥有2025年选秀的第二顺位。如果现在就做出选择,且库珀·弗拉格(Cooper Flagg)已被选走,你会选谁?
玛丽莲·杜宾斯基(Marilyn Dubinski): 这可能取决于马刺队认为他们在哪些方面最需要帮助,不仅是现在,还有未来几个赛季。迪伦·哈珀(Dylan Harper)似乎是弗拉格之后公认的第二顺位人选,如果他们没有交易得到德文·瓦塞尔(Devin Vassell),我肯定会选择他,但他是否会和瓦塞尔和斯蒂芬·卡斯尔(Stephon Castle)产生位置重叠?VJ·埃奇科姆(VJ Edgecombe)也面临同样的问题。话说回来,他们也需要一个替补控卫。他们也迫切需要内线高度,但预计顺位靠前的大个子并不多。埃斯·贝利(Ace Bailey)似乎是最有可能提供内线高度的人选,尽管他有点像一张彩票。
马克·巴林顿(Mark Barrington): 我认为如果他们保留这个选秀权,他们必须选择哈珀,他是目前最好的选择,虽然位置适配性不是最理想的。控球后卫需要时间来发展,让他从替补席上打起,适应NBA的比赛节奏也未尝不可。如果他在两三年内成长为球星,马刺队可以交易掉他们的控球后卫之一,以换取其他位置上需要的球员或选秀权。我不反对向下交易一两个顺位,选择埃斯·贝利或埃奇科姆,但前提是马刺队可以在交易中获得另一名轮换球员,并且合同合理。
雅各布·道格拉斯(Jacob Douglas): 为球队适配性而选秀是那些已经具备争冠实力的球队才会做的事情。马刺队没有这个奢侈的条件。去选择最好的球员。那就是哈珀。就像斯蒂芬·卡斯尔一样,他拥有可以打控卫和分卫的身材。凭借卡斯尔的防守多功能性,甚至有可能让他们三个同时上场,卡斯尔打三号位。哈珀凭借其身高、力量、脚步和终结能力的结合,将成为NBA赛场上的得分机器。如果他的跳投继续进步,我们可能会谈论一个多次入选NBA最佳阵容级别的球员。
赫苏斯·戈麦斯(Jesus Gomez): 我还没有对选秀前景进行太多研究,但从我所看到的哈珀的表现来看,他令人印象深刻,专家们也对他的潜力感到兴奋,所以我选择他。在防守端,卡斯尔可以防守侧翼球员,所以应该不会有太大的问题。在进攻端,当瓦塞尔、卡斯尔和哈珀同时上场时,缺乏投篮可能会有些棘手,但拥有几个能够利用速度或力量进入内线的球员总体来说是好的。我不介意向下交易几个顺位来获得一名年轻的老将,但我会对选择哈珀感到高兴。
马刺队是否应该交易第二顺位选秀权以立即帮助维克托·文班亚马(Victor Wembanyama),或者说这是否会加快重建的步伐?
杜宾斯基: 这取决于他们能得到什么回报。这个选秀权绝对不值得交易像凯文·杜兰特(Kevin Durant)这样的老将,但我也对交易扬尼斯·安特托昆博(Giannis Antetokounmpo)持保留态度,因为即使拥有第二顺位选秀权,马刺队仍然需要放弃几个年轻的核心球员,同时还要记住他们必须现在支付瓦塞尔,并在两年后支付文班。如果扬尼斯基本上只是一个“租借球员”,那就不值得付出那么多。马刺队正处于一个如果他们愿意就可以进入“赢在当下”模式的阶段,但如果他们保留选秀权并且不要操之过急,我也不会抱怨。
巴林顿: 我不认为这在NBA的薪资结构下行得通,因为为了得到一位已成名的球星,你还需要送出足够薪水的球员才能使薪资帽计算生效。马刺队在过去几年中已经摆脱了他们的不良合同。你不会想送出几名优秀的球员和第二顺位选秀权,除非你得到一名超级球星。唯一符合该标准的“可用”球员将是扬尼斯·安特托昆博,他是联盟前三的天赋球员。我愿意看到马刺队尝试获得他,但前提是不以牺牲球队的深度和未来的提升能力为代价。
道格拉斯: 你想成为俄克拉荷马城雷霆队还是新奥尔良鹈鹕队?雷霆队积累了资产,看起来像一支NBA冠军球队。新奥尔良队两次兑现了他们的资产,第一次是安东尼·戴维斯(Anthony Davis),第二次是锡安·威廉姆森(Zion Williamson),以冲击总冠军,但没有成功。一直以来,那些耐心打球并积累资产的球队拥有最长的争夺总冠军的道路。无法保证安特托昆博在未来五年内为圣安东尼奥带来总冠军,而且他会大大限制瓦塞尔、文班和他们自己能够做的事情。选择最好的年轻天才,保持灵活,并变得更好。哈珀、第十四顺位选秀权和任何自由球员的签约应该会让马刺队在明年成为一支季后赛球队。
戈麦斯: 他们至少要考虑一下这个想法。如果文班亚马完全健康,而且没有任何更新表明情况并非如此,他已经非常出色了,所以全力以赴似乎并不是一个错误。为了避免立即出现扬尼斯的情况,假设灰熊队对这个选秀权感兴趣,并且愿意用小贾伦·杰克逊(Jaren Jackson Jr.)来交易它。或者也许太阳队说德文·布克(Devin Booker)可以交易。管理层必须听取报价。我不希望他们交易这个选秀权,但如果合适的交易出现,我不会反对。
选秀抽签中最大的赢家和输家是谁?
杜宾斯基: 显然,独行侠队是最大的赢家(并不是说尼科·哈里森(Nico Harrison)应该如此轻易地被拯救,但这也使他成为赢家),马刺队也是如此。弗拉格似乎对独行侠队赢得选秀权并不感到兴奋,但他可以做得更糟。(只要保持体形!)76人队也是巨大的赢家,因为他们保住了前6顺位保护的选秀权,尽管主持人犯了错误并制造了一些戏剧性。(当然,我们所有人都很高兴他们的选秀权没有落入雷霆队手中。)还有一些球队在选秀抽签中总是运气不佳,例如黄蜂队和奇才队,这使他们成为最大的输家,因为他们继续在炼狱中挣扎。
巴林顿: 我无法改进玛丽莲的回答,因为她已经说到了所有要点。马刺队显然是巨大的赢家,即使最好的可用球员与他们的阵容并不完全契合。在某些位置上拥有太多的优秀球员并不是最糟糕的问题,因为他们仍然可以给他们所有人上场时间。我为爵士队感到难过,他们不可能再摆烂得更彻底了,但最终还是获得了第五顺位,这是他们选秀抽签概率中最糟糕的结果。
道格拉斯: 最大的输家是NBA选秀抽签本身。这个系统太糟糕了。它只会鼓励更多的球队摆烂,并让糟糕的球队陷入底层地狱,因为他们无法获得顶级的才能。选秀的目的是平衡联盟。它在新形式下未能做到这一点。这次选秀,比以往任何时候都更突出了这个问题。我想独行侠队是赢家,因为他们将选到库珀·弗拉格(Cooper Flagg),并在未来10年内保持竞争力,即使他们不值得。
戈麦斯: 联盟在部分球迷中的信誉是一个很大的输家。选秀抽签显然没有作弊,但独行侠队在将一位正值巅峰的超级球星交易到湖人队之后获得了弗拉格,这与鹈鹕队将安东尼·戴维斯交易给他们,然后获得了锡安的状元签时发生的事情如出一辙。阴谋论者现在有了更多的弹药。
对马刺队来说不幸的是,老鹰队是巨大的赢家,因为他们得以保留从国王队获得的第13顺位选秀权,如果该选秀权提升顺位,国王队就会得到它,因为它是前12顺位保护的。这是一个不错的资产,可以用来交易立即提供帮助的球员,或者在去年休赛期选到里萨谢(Risacher)之后继续建立人才储备。
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The winners and losers of the NBA draft lottery day
The Spurs were one of the teams that moved up and will now have some interesting decisions to make about the No. 2 pick.
The Spurs have the No. 2 overall pick in the 2025 draft. If they were on the clock right now and Cooper Flagg was gone, who’d you pick?
Marilyn Dubinski: It will likely depend on where the Spurs feel they need the most help not just now, but in future seasons as well. Dylan Harper seems to be the consensus no. 2 after Flagg, and I’d be all over that pick if they hadn’t traded for Fox, but will he be redundant with Fox and Castle? The same could be said of VJ Edgecombe. Then again, they also need a backup PG. They also desperately need size, but there is a lack of big men projected to go that high. Ace Bailey seems like the most likely candidate that could provide that, although he’s a bit of a wildcard.
Mark Barrington: I think if they keep the pick, they have to go with Harper, who is the best available, and although the fit isn’t ideal, point guards take time to develop, and having him coming off the bench as he adapts to the NBA game wouldn’t be bad. If he develops into a star in two or three years, the Spurs could trade away one of their point guards for additional players at a position of need or draft capital. I wouldn’t be opposed to trading down a pick or two to grab Ace Bailey or Edgecombe, but only if the Spurs can pick up another rotation player in the deal on a reasonable contract.
Jacob Douglas: Drafting for fit is for teams that are already contending for championships. The Spurs don’t have that luxury. Go get the best player available. That’s Harper. Much like Stephon Castle, he has the positional size to play on and off the ball. With Castle’s defensive versatility, there is a world where you could even play the three of them together, with Castle playing at the wing. Harper is going to be a walking bucket in the NBA with his combination of size, strength, footwork, and finishing ability. If the jump shot continues to improve, we could be talking about a multi-time All-NBA caliber player.
Jesus Gomez: I haven’t done much research yet about the prospects, but what I’ve seen from Harper has been impressive, and the experts are excited about his potential, so I’ll go with him. Defensively, Castle can guard wings, so there should be no big issue. Offensively, the lack of shooting while playing two of Fox, Castle and Harper could be tricky, but having several guys who can get to the paint using speed or strength could be good overall. I wouldn’t mind trading down a couple of spots to pick up a young veteran, but I’d be happy with Harper.
Should the Spurs trade the No. 2 overall pick for immediate help for Victor Wembanyama, or would that be rushing the rebuild?
Dubinski: It depends on what they’re getting in return. The pick would definitely not be worth an aging player like Kevin Durant, but I also have my hesitations about trading for Giannis Antetokounmpo because even with the 2nd overall pick, the Spurs would still have to give away several young core pieces while still keeping in mind that they have to pay Fox now and Wemby in two years. If Giannis were essentially a rental, he wouldn’t be worth that much. The Spurs are at a point that they can move into win-now mode if they want, but I wouldn’t complain if they kept the pick and didn’t jump the gun too much.
Barrington: I don’t see how that works with the NBA salary structure, because in order to pick up an established star, you need to also send out players with enough salary to make the cap math work out. The Spurs have already shed their bad contracts over the last couple of years. You would not want to send out several good players and the #2 draft pick unless you got a superstar player in return. The only ‘available’ player who fits that criteria would be Giannis Antetokounmpo, who is a top 3 talent in the league. I’d be open to the Spurs talking a run at acquiring him, but not at the expense of gutting the team’s depth and future ability to improve.
Douglas: Do you want to be the Oklahoma City Thunder or the New Orleans Pelicans? The Thunder built assets and look like an NBA champion. New Orleans cashed in its assets twice, first with Anthony Davis and again with Zion Williamson to push for titles, but it didn’t work. Consistently, the teams that play it patiently and stack assets have the longest runway to compete for championships. There is no guarantee Antetokounmpo brings San Antonio a championship in the next five years, and he significantly limits what they can do around Fox, Wemby, and himself. Pick the best young talent, remain agile, and get better. Harper, the fourteenth pick, and any free agent acquisitions should make the Spurs a playoff team next year.
Gomez: They have to at least entertain the idea. If Wemby is fully healthy, and there have been no updates that indicate otherwise, he’s so good already that going all in doesn’t seem like a mistake. To avoid immediately going with a Giannis scenario, let’s say the Grizzlies are interested in the pick and willing to trade Jaren Jackson Jr. for it. Or maybe the Suns say Devin Booker is available. The front office has to listen. I don’t expect them to trade the pick, but I wouldn’t be against it if the right deal were available.
Who were the biggest winners and losers of the lottery?
Dubinski: Obviously the Mavs are the biggest winners (not that Nico Harrison deserves to be bailed out so easily, but that makes him a winner as well), as are the Spurs. Flagg certainly didn’t seem excited about the Mavs winning the pick, but he could do worse. (Just stay in shape!) The 76ers are also massive winners for keeping their top-6 protected pick, even though the announcer erred and created some drama. (And of course, we’re all winners that their pick didn’t go to the Thunder.) Then there are some teams that just can’t catch a break in the lottery, like the Hornets and Wizards, making them the biggest losers as they continue to wallow in purgatory.
Barrington: I can’t improve on Marilyn’s answer, as she hit all of the main points. The Spurs are obviously huge winners, even though the best player available isn’t an ideal fit with their roster. Having too many good players at certain positions isn’t the worst problem to have, because they will still be able to give all of them playing time. I feel bad for the Jazz who couldn’t have tanked any harder, but still ended up with the fifth pick, the worst possible for their lottery odds.
Douglas: The biggest loser is the NBA Draft Lottery itself. The system is so broken. It’s only encouraged more teams to tank, and kept bad teams in bottom-feeding hell because they can’t secure top-tier talent. The draft’s purpose is to balance the league. It has failed to do that in its new form. This lottery, more than others, put a spotlight on that problem. I guess the Mavs are winners because they’ll draft Cooper Flagg and remain relevant for the next 10 years, even if they don’t deserve it.
Gomez: The league’s credibility with a certain part of its fan base was a big loser. The lottery is obviously not rigged, but the Mavericks getting Flagg after trading a superstar in his prime to the Lakers mirrors what happened when the Pelicans traded them Anthony Davis and then got the top pick that would become Zion. The conspiracy theorists have a lot more ammo now.
Unfortunately for the Spurs, the Hawks were big winners, since they got to keep the 13th pick from the Kings, who would have gotten it if it had moved up, as it was top-12 protected. That’s a nice asset to trade for immediate help or to continue to build the talent base after picking up Risacher last offseason.
By Jeje Gomez, Marilyn Dubinski, Mark Barrington, Jacob Douglas, via Pounding The Rock