By SpursfanSteve | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-04-20 06:01:47
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圣安东尼奥马刺队拥有什么,以及他们需要什么。
我一直认为,马刺队最大的弱点是投篮,以及它对站位的影响。当我们谈论站位时,我认为我们大多数人可能会想到挡拆战术周围的空间。一名后卫和一名掩护者进行挡拆,其他三名球员则在外围拉开空间,准备接球投篮。或者,也许我们想到的是斯蒂芬·库里(Steph Curry)拥有的纯粹引力,以及它所引发的恐惧,他不断地穿梭于无球掩护之间,将整个防守围绕着一颗投篮之星扭曲,为勇士队想要进行的所有其他战术创造空间。我们过去常常考虑像蒂姆·邓肯(Tim Duncan)这样有统治力的内线球员周围的空间,他吸引了包夹,然后将球传给,希望是能够接球投篮的优秀射手。
但无论以何种方式创造空间,球场上的具体位置都很重要。有些球员在某些位置上比其他球员表现更好。例如,蒂姆在左侧低位非常出色,但在其他地方“仅仅”是优秀。引进另一位在同一位置上表现出色的球员,将是收益递减的一个例子。托尼·帕克(Tony Parker)与蒂姆如此契合的原因之一,不仅仅是挡拆,而是托尼在反方向的底角三分和油漆区另一侧的投篮更好——右侧底角三分命中率为38.3%,而左侧为34.6%,右侧和左侧的中距离投篮命中率分别为42%和40%。
那么,围绕维克托·文班亚马(Victor Wembanyama)创造空间的最佳方式是什么?为了回答这个问题,我们需要弄清楚他似乎最舒适(也最成功)的运作空间,然后对目前轮换阵容中,看起来或可能成为未来核心的其他球员也这样做。由于 文班亚马 显然是最重要的一环,让我们从他开始。这是 文班亚马 本赛季的投篮热图,由Statmuse提供(所有这些都来自Statmuse,它非常容易使用,仅供参考),你可以用鼠标在上面滚动。较深的蓝色阴影表示比联盟平均水平更好的投篮命中率。对于那些使用手机或不想花时间深入研究的人来说,他在左侧侧翼三分线(37.3%)的投篮命中率高于右侧(32%),并且在弧顶(37.5%)的命中率良好。他在罚球线和罚球线左侧,以及右侧底角三分线的命中率非常高,但所有这些的样本量都小得多。毫无疑问,也不出所料,他在篮筐周围非常出色。
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总的来说,他的三分球命中率为142/403。我无法回看他投出的每一个三分球,但我隐约记得他每场比赛会投出两到三个“糟糕的”三分球(仓促、在进攻时间早期、奇怪地失去平衡或明显不在节奏中等),或者说,一年大约投出90到120个糟糕的三分球。有时候你会投出并命中一个糟糕的投篮,有时候你会投出并错过一个好的投篮,所以我们不能假设仅仅用一个好的投篮代替一个糟糕的投篮,就能自动实现一对一的改进。但是,如果他每场比赛用一个好的三分球代替一个糟糕的三分球(使用本赛季的数据,更好的选择将导致46次更好的投篮),并且从每四次投篮命中一次提高到每三次投篮命中一次(仍然低于联盟平均水平),他的命中率至少会提高一个百分点。我认为这是他进入下个赛季的合理下限——它并没有说明由于技术发展、训练和健康状况而带来的任何持续改进。我愿意赌他整体上会有更大的进步,但我们现在先坚持下限。 文班 可能会继续大量出手三分球和篮下投篮,中间区域的投篮不多,但也许我们会看到更多的低位进攻,因为他会更自如地利用错位优势,并发展出更多的下肢力量,以防止被挤出油漆区。
围绕 文班 的理想空间点是那些当他在外围时,能够冲击篮筐和底角(尤其是左侧底角)的球员,或者当他在篮筐附近时,能够代替他在弧顶的球员。此外,在中距离有很多空位,虽然它是“篮球比赛中最糟糕(效率最低)的投篮”,但拥有一个能够从这些空位进行运球急停跳投的球员,可以帮助最大限度地利用 文班 在挡拆和外切中所产生的引力影响。
首先,有个坏消息:达龙·福克斯(De’Aaron Fox)职业生涯中在任何外围位置的投篮命中率都没有高于平均水平,而且几乎在他所有最擅长的位置,都与 文班 重叠。但让我们将福克斯的职业生涯与他在马刺队的生涯进行比较,并且在马刺队的生涯旁边加上一个大大的星号,因为样本量很小且有伤病影响——它仍然应该是有参考价值的,但远非结论性的。
职业生涯:
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我们从福克斯身上看到的主要情况是,一旦他来到马刺队,他在一些 文班 不擅长的位置上绝对出色:尤其是左侧底角和中距离。我认为可以合理地预测,福克斯与 文班 一起打球时,投篮命中率会略微高于他的职业生涯平均水平,尤其是如果他更专注于来到马刺队后效率最高的位置。再次强调,样本量很小,需要加上大大的星号。由于这些样本量太小,我不会在福克斯身上花太多时间。
接下来让我们看看斯蒂芬·卡斯尔(Stephon Castle)。
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坏消息是,卡斯尔在任何位置的投篮命中率都没有高于联盟平均水平。更糟糕的消息是,即使我将范围限制在全明星赛后,当他的角色更加稳定时,他在任何位置的投篮命中率仍然没有高于联盟平均水平。但他比福克斯更擅长反方向的底角,以及总体上的右侧。我喜欢卡斯尔,而且他全面的比赛能力可能会提高,但他还有很长的路要走。我现在就说到这里。
德文·瓦塞尔(Devin Vassell)
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从德文本赛季的投篮热图上,最引人注目的是他在右侧底角的命中率非常高(46.7%,而联盟平均水平为39%)。他在左侧底角的命中率也达到了41%。他在右侧侧翼的命中率也比左侧高四个百分点,并且在该侧也高于联盟平均水平。关于他缺乏稳定性的文章已经写了很多,即使我同意其中的许多批评,他仍然是我们队中最好的空间点之一,也是围绕维克托的最佳空间点之一。他在 文班 对面的侧翼投篮不错,这表明即使他在外线打球,也能很好地契合。他在两个底角的投篮都不错,这意味着当福克斯或卡斯尔和 文班 进行挡拆或外切时,他可以提供空间。他在 文班 最擅长的弧顶位置表现不太好。尽管他的不稳定性和伤病史令人沮丧,但考虑到他在进攻端的契合程度,以及他在本赛季末表现出的一些防守进步,马刺队很难放弃他。
杰里米·索汉(Jeremy Sochan):
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你可能需要稍微眯起眼睛才能看到 索汉 本赛季投篮热图的差异。他的主要工作是在篮筐周围完成的,尽管他受伤了,但本赛季他的投篮命中率仍然高于平均水平。不幸的是,他的外线投篮样本量都很小。但是,如果我们看看他迄今为止的职业生涯,除了他在篮筐周围的进步之外,并没有太大的不同。与他职业生涯相比,他今年在左侧侧翼和左侧底角的投篮命中率略有提高。这些也是 文班 (左侧侧翼)和福克斯(左侧底角)最擅长的位置之一。尽管配合有些笨拙,但马刺队在本赛季初取得了一些成功,他们让 索汉 在 文班 在外线时待在Dunker位置。为了让这种战术在未来继续发挥作用,尤其是在福克斯加入阵容之后, 文班 将不得不更多地进行外切而不是挡拆,或者 索汉 将不得不继续提高他在侧翼的投篮命中率,并在福克斯前往他喜欢的左侧时,从短角进行投篮。我很好奇看到福克斯和 索汉 进行挡拆,而 文班 更多地在外围移动,或者作为主要进攻之后的第二选择,这样的进攻会是什么样子。我认为可以肯定地得出结论,这种配合在进攻端不太自然,需要更多地进行战术安排,尤其是在假设的由卡斯尔和瓦塞尔组成的五人阵容中。
凯尔登·约翰逊(Keldon Johnson)
不幸的是,对于凯尔登来说,他的投篮热图与 文班 的投篮热图有很大的重叠。他在弧顶、篮筐、右侧侧翼和右侧底角的表现最好。他在左侧和中距离整体上表现相当弱。能够在右侧侧翼命中投篮是 文班 不太可能占据的位置,但整体进攻配合不太理想。我认为凯尔登今年有所进步,尤其是在防守端,但 索汉 在防守端表现出了足够的实力和多样性,使得在进攻端有些笨拙的配合特别值得,我不确定凯尔登是否也做到了——而且我不认为他在进攻端足够出色,即使在他最擅长的位置上,也足以让他被信任为一名精英级别的第六人。需要明确的是,我并不是积极倡导立即放弃他,但我认为他的合同对球队来说足够友好,他可能是我们年轻球员中最好的交易对象。
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朱利安·尚帕尼(Julian Champagnie):
尚帕尼——我这样说带有一些轻微的赞扬——是马刺队阵容中最普通的射手。他一直非常稳定,总的三分球命中率约为37%,在左侧底角略高于平均水平,在右侧底角略低于平均水平。几乎在其他所有位置,他的表现都与平均水平相差不到一个百分点。我想不出有其他球员像他这样,在马刺队历史上一直保持着如此出色的中等水平。你可以争辩说,在每个位置都表现平庸比只在一个位置表现出色更好,而且我认为马刺队可以更好地将像尚帕尼这样的球员与 文班 结合起来。我希望他能继续发展成为像哈里森·巴恩斯(Harrison Barnes)一样出色的射手,因为这是目前这支年轻核心所缺少的最重要的东西。
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我会快速地把老将克里斯·保罗(Chris Paul)和哈里森·巴恩斯放在一起说:他们在进攻端都是非常出色的球员,在基本上所有位置都高于平均水平。我不认为他们中的任何一个真的在“长期”计划中,尽管巴恩斯“足够年轻”,可以再待几年。我认为没有什么可多说的了。
保罗:
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巴恩斯:
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展望未来,虽然马刺队确实需要提高整体投篮水平以帮助拉开空间,但找到能够提供正确空间的球员可能更为重要。对于这样一支年轻的球队来说,现在预测像 文班亚马 、卡斯尔,以及在较小程度上 索汉 这样的球员在未来几年将如何发展他们的投篮还为时过早。基于纯粹的发展、战术安排和投篮选择的改进,对一些适度的进步( 文班 和卡斯尔)到轻微的进步( 索汉 和福克斯)进行预测似乎是合理的。随着这种进步,空间应该会继续改善。至少,拥有更多在底角表现出色的球员可以显着改善围绕 文班 的空间。
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How the Spurs spacing informs the moves they need to make
What San Antonio has , and what they need.
I have long been in the camp that the Spurs biggest weakness is shooting, and how it impacts spacing. When we think about spacing, I think most of us probably think about space around pick and rolls. A guard and a screener run a pick and roll, and the three other players are spaced around the perimeter, ready to catch and shoot. Or maybe we think about the pure gravity that Steph Curry possesses, and the fear it induces, by sprinting around off ball screen after off ball screen, bending entire defenses around a shooting star, creating space for all the other actions the Warriors want to run. We used to think about spacing around a dominant post player like Tim Duncan, where he attracts a double team and kicks the ball out to, again, hopefully capable shooters ready to catch and score.
But regardless of which way space is created, the specific spaces on the floor matter. Some players are better in some spots than others. Timmy, for example, was elite from the left block, and “merely” great from elsewhere. Bringing in another player who was elite from the same spot would have been an example of diminishing returns. One of the reasons Tony Parker fit so well with Tim wasn’t just the pick and roll, but Tony shot it better from the opposite corner 3 and the other side of the paint- 38.3% from the right corner vs 34.6% from the left, and 42% vs 40% from the right and left midrange.
So what’s the best way to create space around Victor Wembanyama? To answer that, we need to figure out the spaces he seems most comfortable (and successful) operating from, and then do the same with other players currently in the rotation who seem like they are or could likely be part of the core moving forward. Since Wemby is clearly the most important piece, let’s start with him. This is Wemby’s shot chart from this season, presented by Statmuse (all of these come from Statmuse, which is super easy to work with, FYI) in a way you can roll over it with your mouse. Darker shades of blue indicate better shooting compared to the league average. For those of you on mobile or who don’t want to take the time to deep dive, he shoots better from the left wing 3 (37.3%) than the right (32%), and good from the top of the key (37.5%). He’s elite from the free throw line and to the left of it, and from the right corner 3, but all of those are on much smaller sample sizes. He is, unquestionably and unsurprisingly, elite around the rim.
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Overall, he shot 142/403 from distance. I don’t have the ability to go back and watch every 3 he took, but I do vaguely remember him taking two to three “bad” 3s per game (rushed, early in the shot clock, weirdly off balance or apparently out of rhythm, etc), or somewhere between 90 and 120 bad 3s on the year. Sometimes you take and make a bad shot, and sometimes you take and miss a good shot, so we can’t assume that just replacing a bad one with a good one lets to an automatic one for one improvement. But if he replaces one bad 3 with one good 3 per game (better selection leading to 46 better shots using this season’s numbers), and goes from making one out of every four to one out of every three (still placing him below league average), he would have improved by a minimum of one percentage point. I think that is a reasonable floor for his improvement going into next year- it says nothing of any continued improvements as a result of skill development, practice, and health. I would put money on seeing much larger improvements overall, but let’s stick with the floor for now. Wemby is likely to continue to take a large diet of 3s and paint shots and not a ton inbetween, though maybe we’ll see more post ups as he gets more comfortable taking advantage of mismatches and develops more lower body strength to keep from getting muscled further out of the paint.
Ideal spacers around Wemby would be able to attack the rim and corners (especially the left corner) when he is on the perimeter, or replace him around the top of the key when he’s near the rim. Additionally, there is a lot of open space in the mid-range, and while it’s “the worst (least efficient) shot in basketball”, having someone who can take pull ups off the dribble from those spaces could help maximize space created by Wemby’s gravitational impact on pick and rolls and pick and pops.
First, some bad news: De’Aaron Fox for his career has not shot above average from anywhere on the perimeter, and is at his best in nearly all the same places Wemby is. But let’s compare Fox’s career to just his Spurs career, and let’s put a big asterisk next to Spurs career because of small sample size and injury- it should still be informative but far from conclusive.
Career:
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The main thing we see from Fox is that once he got to the Spurs, he was absolutely elite from some places where Wemby wasn’t: especially the left corner and the midrange. I think it is reasonable to project that Fox will shoot slightly above his career averages playing with Wemby, especially if he focuses more on where he was most efficient after he came to the Spurs. Again, big asterisk with the small sample sizes. Since those are so small, I won’t spend much more time on Fox.
Let’s look at Stephon Castle next.
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The bad news is that Castle didn’t shoot above league average from anywhere. The worse news is that even if I limit it to post all-star break, when his role was more consistent, he still wasn’t above league average from anywhere. But he’s better from the corner opposite Fox, and from that right side in general. I love Castle, and his game across the board is likely going to improve, but he has a long way to go. I’ll leave it at that for now.
Devin Vassell
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The first thing that jumps out about Devin’s shot chart for this season is that he’s elite from the right corner (46.7%, compared to the league average of 39%). He’s also at 41% from the left corner. He’s also four percentage points better on the right wing than left, and above league average on that side as well. Much e-ink has been spilled about his lack of consistency, and even though I agree with much of those criticisms, he’s one of the best spacers and best fitting spacers we have around Victor. He’s good from the wing opposite Wemby, indicating a good fit even while he’s playing outside. He’s also good from both corners, meaning he can provide spacing while Fox or Castle and Wemby are running pick and rolls or pick and pops. He’s less good at the top of the key where Wemby is at his best. As frustrating as his inconsistency and injury history have been, it’s going to be tough for the Spurs to move on from him given how well he fits on the offensive end, and some of the defensive improvement he demonstrated at the end of this season.
Jeremy Sochan:
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You may have to squint a bit to see differences in Sochan’s shot chart from this season. He does his work primarily around the rim, where despite his injuries, he did shoot above average this season. Unfortunately, his perimeter game is all small sample size. If we look at his career thus far, though, it’s not much different beyond his improvements around the rim. He got a bit better this year compared to his career from the left wing and left corner. Those are also some of the same spots Victor (left wing) and Fox (left corner) are best from. Despite the clunky fit, the Spurs had some success early in the season playing Sochan in the dunker spot while Wemby was on the perimeter. To make that work moving forward, especially with Fox in the lineup, Wemby is going to have to do more picking and popping than picking and rolling, or Sochan is going to have to continue to improve from the wing and let it fly from the short corner when Fox goes to his preferred left. I would be curious to see what the offense looks like with Fox and Sochan running pick and rolls with Wemby moving more around the perimeter, or as a secondary diver following the main action. I think it’s safe to draw the conclusion that this fit is less organic on offense and will need to be more schemed up, particularly in a hypothetical five man unit with Castle and Vassell.
Keldon Johnson
Unfortunately for Keldon, his shot chart has significant overlap with Victor’s. He’s at his best from the top of the key, the rim, the right wing, and the right corner. He’s pretty weak from the left side and the mid range in general. Being able to hit from the right wing is a spot Victor is less likely to occupy, but the overall fit on offense is less than ideal. I thought Keldon showed some improvement this year, particularly on defense, but while Sochan has demonstrated enough strength and versatility on defense to make an awkard fit on offense particularly worth it, I’m not sure Keldon has- and I don’t think he’s elite enough on offense, even where he’s at his best, to justify being trusted as an elite sixth man. To be clear, I’m not actively advocating to move on from him right this second, but I think his contract is team friendly enough that he might be the best trade candidate among our younger players moving forward.
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Julian Champagnie:
Champs- and I mean this as some mild praise- is the most average shooter on the Spurs roster. He’s been remarkably consistent, shooting about 37% from 3 in general, and being slightly above average from the left corner and slightly below from the right. He is less than a percentage point from average nearly everywhere else. I can’t think of another player who has been as remarkably middle of the road for the Spurs literally ever. You can make an argument that being average from everywhere is better than being great from just one spot, though, and I think the Spurs could do a better job of incorporating players like Champagnie alongside Wemby. I hope he continues to develop into someone who can shoot as well as Harrison Barnes can, because that’s the biggest thing missing from the current young core.
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I’ll do the vets, Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes, quickly and together: they were both excellent offensive fits that were above average from basically everywhere. I don’t think either are really in the “long term” plans, though Barnes is “young” enough that he could stick around for a few more years. I don’t think there’s much more to say.
Paul:
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Barnes:
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Moving forward, while the Spurs do need to improve their shooting overall to help with spacing, finding players who can provide the right spacing is arguably more important. With such a young team, it’s still a little early to project exactly how players like Wembanyama, Castle, and to a lesser extent Sochan will develop their shots in the coming years. It seems reasonable to project some moderate (Wemby and Castle) to mild (Sochan and Fox) improvement based on pure development, scheming, and improvement in shot selection. With that improvement, spacing should continue to improve. At minimum, having more players who are elite from the corners could significantly improve spacing around Wemby.
By SpursfanSteve, via Pounding The Rock