By Jeph Duarte | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-03-09 19:00:00
由生成式人工智能翻译，译文内容可能不准确或不完整，以原文为准。
伟大核心究竟是什么
并不存在唯一的NBA历史最佳球员。比赛方式、判罚尺度以及随着时间推移做出的调整都表明，每个时代都有杰出的球员。我们无法预测，如果比尔·拉塞尔在他效力期间有更多的球队，他是否还能拿到11个总冠军。
四双一直仅限于四名球员，但如果威尔特·张伯伦在他效力联盟期间记录了这些数据，他是否也能做到？
相比之下，很难想象斯蒂芬·库里如果在90年代打球，规则没有像现在这样强烈地保护射手，他是否还能成为有史以来最伟大的射手。
作为一名马刺球迷，最伟大的球员（到目前为止）是蒂姆·邓肯(Tim Duncan)。他经常因为各种原因被排除在历史最佳球员的讨论之外，原因包括但不限于：总冠军数量不够、不够华丽或者MVP数量不够。
邓肯在NBA历史得分榜上排名第20位。他的盖帽数排名历史第6，篮板数排名历史第7，助攻数排名历史第113，抢断数排名历史第176。相比之下，勒布朗在所有类别中都排名前100。
蒂姆·邓肯的常规赛胜负记录百分比是历史最佳。他是仅有的四位取得超过1000场胜利的球员之一。
但最近有一个令人印象深刻的统计数据引起了我的注意。
蒂姆·邓肯拥有历史最高的职业生涯正负值。
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正负值表示当一名球员在场上时，球队相对于对手获得或损失了多少分。如果一名球员上场时他的球队领先10分，但当他下场时，双方打平，那么他在该时段的正负值为-10。将他整晚的所有时段加起来，你就能得到该场比赛的累积正负值。将职业生涯的所有比赛加起来，蒂莫西·西奥多·邓肯的正负值为+10,000分。
再说一次，这个统计数据是从1997-98赛季才开始使用的，还不到30年。我们无从得知早期的一些伟大球员会表现如何。
看看邓肯的同代球员德克·诺维茨基、托尼·帕克、马努·吉诺比利和沙奎尔·奥尼尔，他们都落后数千分。他最接近的竞争对手，勒布朗·詹姆斯，在他的第22个赛季，仍然落后“石佛”超过1200分。
邓肯的球场意识和提升周围每个人的能力确实使他成为一种不同的领袖。
虽然这不足以掩盖迈克尔·乔丹、魔术师约翰逊或拉里·伯德的成就，但他的传奇地位值得我们时不时地提醒一下。
点击查看原文：Open Thread: More evidence that Tim Duncan belongs in the NBA GOAT conversation
Open Thread: More evidence that Tim Duncan belongs in the NBA GOAT conversation
What is at the core of greatness
There is no one greatest NBA player of all time. Differences in how the game is played, officiated, and adjusted over time show that every era has standout players. It is impossible to predict if Bill Russell could have logged eleven championships had there been more teams when he played.
The quadruple-double has been limited to four players, but could Wilt Chamberlain have accomplished that had those stats been recorded during is time in the league?
By contrast it is hard to imagine Steph Curry being the greatest shooter of all time had he played in the in the 90s when rules didn’t as strongly protect the shooter.
As a Spurs fan, the greatest player (thus far) has been Tim Duncan. He is often left out of the GOAT conversation for any number of reasons, being -but not limited to- not enough titles, not flashy enough, or not enough MVPs.
Duncan is 20th all time in NBA scoring. He’s sixth all time in blocks, seventh in rebounds, 113th in assists, 176th in steals. By comparison, LeBron is in the top 100 for all categories.
Tim Duncan has the best all-time regular season win-loss record percentage. He’s one of only four players with more than 1,000 wins.
But what recently struck a chord as an impressive stat.
Tim Duncan has the highest career plus/minus of all time.
Plus/minus indicates how many points a team gained or lost relative to the opponent when a player was on the floor. If a player comes in the game and his team us up by 10, but they’re tied when he exits the game, his plus/minus for that stretch will be -10. Add up all his stretches for the evening and you have the cumulative plus/minus stat for that game. Add it up for a career and Timothy Theodore Duncan has a +/- of 10,000 points.
Again, this stat has only been used since the 1997-98 season, less than 30 years. No telling how some of the earlier greats stack up.
A look at Duncan’s contemporaries Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, and Shaquille O’Neal reveal they are all thousands of points away. His closest competitor, LeBron James, in his 22nd season, is still more than 1,200 point behind The Big Fundamental.
Duncan’s court awareness and ability to elevate everyone around his does make him a different type of leader.
While it is not enough to overshadow the accomplishments of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, or Larry Bird, his legendary status deserves a reminder from time to time.
By Jeph Duarte, via Pounding The Rock