🎧 Spurs Insider️ 播客: 文班亚马与马刺队:表现超出赛季初期预期

Spurs Insider Podcast, 2024-12-18 06:39:00

由生成式人工智能翻译,译文内容可能不准确或不完整,以原文为准。

专栏作家迈克·芬格(Mike Finger)以及马刺队随队记者杰夫·麦克唐纳(Jeff McDonald)和汤姆·奥斯本(Tom Orsborn)讨论了为什么马刺队尽管目前胜率只有五成,但他们的表现却超出了赛季初的预期,并且可能比任何人意识到的都更接近西部前列。

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以下是播客的文字稿:

这里是来自南德克萨斯各地高度安全的绝密网络的马刺内部人士假日版节目。我是你们快乐的主持人迈克·芬格,与我们永远充满节日气氛的《快报新闻》马刺队随队记者汤姆·奥斯本和杰夫·麦克唐纳,以及体育编辑尼克·塔尔博特一起。

又到了一年一度每个人都精神振奋的时刻。NBA杯赛的赛程安排给我们提供了一个喘息的机会,让我们可以评估一下本地球队和我们所有人本赛季迄今为止的表现,并展望未来。

我先从杰夫开始,他是我们所有人中最快乐的,一直都是。杰夫,你想从什么开始说起呢?关于圣安东尼奥马刺队、关于假期、关于任何事情?我现在就把它交给你了。第一个话题。

现在这是我的工作了?我只是……你是主持人。这是给予的精神,我正在给你这个机会。你给了我一份新工作。好吧。呃,我们想谈些什么?呃……老兄,你把我逼到绝路了。嗯……好吧。呃,维克多·文班亚马(Victor Wembanyama)。我来帮你一把。哦耶,好吧,好话题。文班亚马说,当他评估假期、赛程中的这段空档、以及本地球队13胜13负的前26场NBA比赛时,他看着排名,并以感恩的心情说,距离榜首并不遥远。马刺队排在第11位,但你同意他说的距离榜首并不遥远吗?

我同意他的是,你知道,他们13胜13负。他们完全是平均水平,完全是中等水平,这与上赛季相比是一个巨大的进步。到目前为止,你必须说,如果你是任何一个现实主义者,这正是你对这个赛季所期待的。只是一些生命迹象,一些表明事情正在朝着正确方向发展的迹象。去年26场比赛后,他们4胜22负。今年26场比赛后,他们13胜13负。很难说这不是一个明显的进步迹象。是的,他们在西部排名第11。他们在东部会排在第8位,更像是稳稳地处于季后赛竞争行列。西部是一团乱麻,就像第5名到第12名,每个人都有13或14场胜利。有些球队比其他球队多打了几场,胜率更高,而且是更好的球队。但在那里有一个僵局,马刺队已经把自己置身于这个僵局之中。我认为你可以说的是,他们已经清楚地将自己与联盟绝对垫底的球队区分开来。就像去年,他们是联盟垫底的球队。他们显然,他们显然比排在他们下面的那三支球队要好。我认为这也是一个进步的迹象。我认为任何期望比这更大的飞跃的人可能期望过高了,但我认为我们正在看到一些我们希望在本赛季前25、26场比赛中看到的进步迹象。

说到这里,杰夫·麦克唐纳,你为我提供了一个完美的主持人过渡。这是我送给你的礼物。过渡到汤姆·奥斯本报道的一场比赛。上周在俄勒冈州波特兰市新增的一场比赛,他们面对的是西部垫底的球队之一,这场比赛在很多方面都类似于马刺队去年在联盟垫底时打的许多比赛。事情就是不顺利。他们就要输给呃,他们就要输给另一支糟糕的球队了。在下半场,他们就是不知道自己在做什么。然而这一次,波特兰开拓者队扮演了去年马刺队的角色,马刺队展现了他们的毅力,展现了他们的进步,展现了他们在比赛后期的技巧,并最终取得了客场战胜一支公认的糟糕球队的胜利,汤姆。但这是一场他们一年前可能不会赢的比赛。

是的,而且更值得注意的是,他们在克里斯·保罗在更衣室的情况下做到了这一点。是的。而且,你知道,德文,呃,文班和德文都在寻找得分机会。朱利安在这方面也表现出色,然后,呃,杰里米在第四节对西蒙斯的防守非常出色。是的,他们一直在努力,但对我来说,我将永远记住这场比赛,你知道,当时我在通道里。我有点,我有点呃,我和米奇,以及公关人员乔丹,我们有点搞混了。所以我们一起走进了新闻发布室,这给了我一个在他们进来之前就在那里的机会。我知道我没有解释清楚,但这只是偶然的,我就在克里斯·保罗击掌、握手和拥抱的时候就在那里。我真的从来没有见过比这更快乐的人了。他,他可能有点松了一口气,但同时也为球员们在没有他的情况下做到这一点而感到骄傲,你知道,正如你指出的那样,迈克,他们坚持了下来。

你从未见过有人在……你从未见过杰夫·麦克唐纳在一次大的……大的三分球命中后那样表现。没有。他只是站在新闻发布室后面祝贺他的同行记者。呃,你从未见过我在赛季最后一天的样子。哦,是的。关于克里斯·保罗,我想告诉你一件事,呃,他已经在联盟里待了很长时间了。我的意思是,他从来没有像这样被罚出场外,不得不在第四节从更衣室里看着马刺队在波特兰反败为胜。这是一个很好的观点。是的,我的意思是,这对这家伙来说是新鲜事,他真的很高兴。我的意思是……这是他职业生涯第七次被驱逐出场。这,这是真的。这并不是经常发生的事情。然后他在下一场比赛中又吃到了技术犯规。他最近脾气暴躁。是的。呃,回到我们上一期播客,我相信呃,你知道,一些我们在比赛中互动的听众前几天试图向我们建议,杰夫,我们中有人预测马刺队本周会超过两胜。我认为没有人这样做。我认为我们都预测他们一胜一负。没有。我们都是正确的。那个听众搞混了。呃,一胜一负的第二场是在弗罗斯特银行中心主场对阵明尼苏达森林狼队的比赛,那场比赛进行得不太顺利。这是本赛季最糟糕的进攻表现之一。有时事情就是不顺利,你有很多球员投篮不中,呃,一些糟糕的失误问题。杰夫在107号平台上跟我提到,呃,这是一场罕见的比赛,呃,维克多·文班亚马再次在寻找一些帮助,而这并不是整个赛季的情况。他整个赛季都得到了各种各样的帮助。这场比赛就是,什么都不顺利。我想呃,在一个82场比赛的赛季中,你总会遇到这样的情况,而那场就是本地球队不顺利的比赛。

是的,通常当他们在开局阶段挣扎时,你可以看看,哦,好吧,文班投篮不好。他会,他会出手很多次。他会投很多球,如果他没投进,进攻就会看起来有点糟糕。但在对阵明尼苏达的比赛中,半场结束时,他几乎要拿到四双了。他什么都做了。他们得了37分,被打得落花流水,因为其他人都没做什么。下半场有些人站了出来,哈里森·巴恩斯,我想索汉一直都很好。但是,在那场比赛中,他没有得到很多帮助。然后他在最后也消失了,他们最终被痛扁,因为他们无法得分。但是明尼苏达,这就是为什么他们去年进入了西部决赛,是因为他们的防守。而他们今年并不总是这样做。之前当安东尼·爱德华兹批评自己的球队软弱时,我不知道这是否起了作用,或者其他什么,但他们在防守端拼尽全力,而在我看来,马刺队并没有真正做好准备。在我看来,他们基本上被打懵了。森林狼队紧逼他们,贴身防守,切断传球路线,干扰每一次投篮,给每一次运球施加压力,而马刺队有点,有点招架不住了。我认为这就是他们只得了72分的主要原因。我们现在要火了……好吧,但你知道,你有那些比赛,你就是不……你招架不住了。是的,好吧,你就是不,你从对阵不会真正挑战你的波特兰队,到对阵一支会打你脸的球队,这……这是一个你如何回应的问题,我不认为任何与马刺队有关的人会争辩说他们对森林狼队的回应不太好。

是的。但在NBA杯赛程结束后,这三天的休息时间的最终结果是一胜一负,马刺队的战绩是13胜13负。而且,呃,如果你在七八周前赛季开始时提出这一点,我想呃,就像播客里的很多人一样,会认为这超出了预期。我相信,我们都预测他们的赛季胜场数会低于500,在30多场左右。所以这是呃,按定义来说是提前完成了。顺便说一下,我想在我们深入讨论之前提一下,这期播客将是新年前夜之前的最后一期。下周我们将休息。这是我们本赛季的第一个休息周。让每个人都喘口气。让听众们从我们这里得到休息,我想你们都应得的。这么说来,我们将在这期播客中展望很多。我们将展望即将到来的东海岸之旅,展望下一个赛程。还有一些旧事,不是吗?就像罗伯茨议事规则、议会程序,有旧事和新事。最后一件要回顾的旧事是,呃,我们是在周二录制的。周一我们收到了格雷格·波波维奇的第一份公开声明。我想我们中的一些人已经预料到这会有一段时间了。呃,你知道他会说些什么,但很高兴听到,不是听到而是看到,呃,格雷格·波波维奇的个性,格雷格·波波维奇绝对对这份声明有最终决定权。你可以看出是他,是的,马刺队在周一发布了这份声明。这是自他11月2日遭受球队称之为轻微中风以来的第一份公开声明。而且,呃,你知道,他说他感谢每个人的关心,不能和每个人都交谈,做得很好,感觉很好,呃,在他典型的自嘲笑话的结尾,关于呃,训练师,与他合作的医生已经厌倦了……没有人会比那些已经知道他不太容易被指导的人更兴奋地看到他回到教练席上。有什么惊喜,有什么值得我们讨论的,杰夫和汤姆?

值得注意的是第二段,你知道,只是说,呃,暗示了重返教练席。对我来说,这立刻引起了我的注意,因为在呃,任何一种中风之后,无论是轻微的还是其他的,都有一些疑问。但是,是的,这引起了我的注意。

我不认为这是一个保证。我认为,我认为他提到这一点是令人鼓舞的,你知道,声明的措辞绝对没有说他计划回归。他说没有人会比那些人更兴奋地看到他回归。我想他想,但我的意思是,我认为……我可能不应该说我想他想。我认为我们不应该在这种情况下进行任何猜测。仍然,他仍然是一个75岁的老人,中风了。呃,NBA历史上没有哪个教练在这个年纪执教过。在此之前就是这种情况,现在仍然是这种情况。所以我认为马刺队会给他时间,他会慢慢来。我不相信他们会做任何呃,让他进一步冒险的事情。但听到他的声音再次以印刷形式出现是令人鼓舞的,杰夫。

是的,关于他是否会回归还有一些不确定性。我认为这么说很公平。我不认为,但我确实认为那个小笑话或其他什么东西在那里有点值得注意,因为他根本不需要说它。你知道,没有它,那份声明也会很好。所以,如果至少可以有一个目的来提出这个想法。但就像你说的,这,这有很多不确定性,而且不是……我不想考虑如何表达这一点。这并不完全取决于他,而是取决于他的健康状况,如果这么说有道理的话。是的。没错。

是的。所以呃,我们拭目以待。但我们祝他一切顺利。我也想说清楚这一点。我们当然祝他一切顺利。我们当然希望一切都好,你知道,每个人都说他做得很好。我们不知道这具体意味着什么,但听到他做得很好是,你知道,总比另一种情况好。所以我们祝他一切顺利。

是的。是的。而且,呃……而且我确实认为,呃,米奇·约翰逊,杰夫写了一篇关于他的非常非常非常长、非常好、而且……你会说很长,对吧?而且很好的一篇报道,上周在报纸上。呃,米奇·约翰逊将在可预见的未来继续这样做。我们不认为波波会在呃,下周回来,接下来的几周,无论如何。但是呃,杰夫,那篇,你写的关于米奇的报道真的很,真的,真的足够了。我彻底地呃,读了它。你想和大家分享什么亮点吗?我很感谢你彻底地阅读了它。不,它,它很棒。我认为开头的故事值得讨论。呃,你和我的老朋友德章泰·默里谈过了。你没有从德章泰·默里那里拿到我欠他的那一美元。但是德章泰,我想有些人以前就知道这一点,但你写得很好。呃,米奇在某种程度上拯救了年轻的德章泰,在西雅图。

是的,他是,他是帮助把,德章泰会用他自己的话说,帮助把德章泰带上比他原先更好的道路的人之一。我的意思是,我想我们很多人都知道德章泰的故事。他在16岁之前多次进出少管所。而且,当他最终决定受够了的时候,米奇·约翰逊是当时在身边的人之一。他是德章泰叔叔的一个家庭朋友,一个朋友。当时的米奇已经从斯坦福大学毕业,回到了,回到了他的家乡西雅图,就在篮球界。他有点被选中了,你能帮帮这个孩子吗?而且你知道,让他走上正轨。基本上成立了一支AAU球队,只是为了让德章泰的生活有一些重点和结构。德章泰讲述的故事是,我们并没有试图进入NBA,我们没有谈论这个。我们只是说,做,像谈论做正确的事情。远离街头,做正确的事情,做,你知道,对你的生活做诚实的事情,然后,然后好事就会发生,在你的生活中,不仅仅是篮球。所以德章泰非常感谢米奇基本上让他免于入狱或死亡。而且,当马刺队在2016年选中德章泰时,你知道,显然在马刺队选中德章泰时,他的背景中有一些危险信号,而且每当你接手这样一个孩子时,你都在寻找可能帮助他过渡到NBA的人。而米奇·约翰逊是马刺队当时引进的人,仅仅是因为德章泰在那里。所以这就是,这就是米奇来到圣安东尼奥的方式。他实际上是从奥斯汀的G联赛的助理教练开始的,然后一路晋升。他们喜欢他作为教练的表现,而不仅仅是作为德章泰的引导者。他一步步地晋升,突然之间,他在这里代替NBA历史上胜场最多的教练,而他正在从疾病中恢复。所以这是一个了不起的故事,关于米奇如何走到今天的位置,而德章泰是其中的一部分,而且它一开始只是为了帮助一个家庭朋友。

是的。这是杰夫讲述的一个故事,不仅仅是一个因为认识控球后卫而得到工作的人的故事……我的意思是这是其中一部分,但也是呃,无论你和联盟里谁谈论马刺队,管理层、支持人员等等,都对米奇和他在机会面前所做的一切赞不绝口,直到今天仍在这样做。我的意思是,这是另一个例子,他得到这份工作是因为格雷格·波波维奇无法继续做下去。而自从得到这个机会后,他做了什么?他带领马刺队的战绩比去年好了很多。我的意思是,还有其他因素在起作用,但米奇仍然做得很好。从广义上讲,从字面上讲,这是一个成功的故事,就像上周报纸上刊登的故事一样。查一下。在expressnews.com上查找杰夫的文章。它仍然在线上。线上。是的。也许这么说有点粗俗,我不知道,但是,但是米奇已经,就像利用这个机会取得了一些成就。

是的。即使,即使,即使波波回来并重新掌权,就像米奇·约翰逊呃,让自己进入了其他球队的视野,而且他已经在这次之前接受过其他球队的面试,但现在他有了,我的意思是你可以,他有一个理由,人们现在亲眼看到了。他们已经看到了米奇·约翰逊执教一支NBA篮球队并担任主教练和管理一切是什么样子。而且我认为,当谈到未来的工作时,无论是在马刺队还是其他地方,他都帮了自己一把。他会,他会得到一些关注。

而且我认为这么说并不粗鲁,或者说不合适,呃,格雷格·波波维奇不会执教到80岁。就像他,他会,如果这没有导致他退休,这次健康恐吓导致他退休,他不会永远执教下去。而且我认为米奇·约翰逊迄今为止所做的是,呃,让马刺队意识到,如果他们要在球队外寻找接班人,那必须是一个明显明显比米奇·约翰逊更好的人,因为如果他们只是去找其他一些人,其他一些人,呃,像那样,你的维克多·文班亚马、你的德文·瓦塞尔、你的杰里米·索汉都会说,嘿,我们喜欢这个人,你知道。呃,我认为他已经赢得了更衣室里很多人的好感,就像我说的,球队周围的很多人都喜欢他。所以呃,我认为完全可以说,他已经使自己成为这个球队某个时间点的可行的长期接班人。

我知道马刺队,你知道,波波一直是,波波是联盟中最年长的教练已经有一段时间了,这不是什么秘密,所以他们必须考虑当波波,你知道,多年来他们必须一直在考虑当波波最终退休时,谁是,谁是一些接替他的候选人。我知道他们有一个他们会考虑的候选人名单。我不知道谁在上面。我不会假装知道谁在上面。也许米奇·约翰逊以前就在上面,你知道,今年的11月2日。我不知道。但我知道当我们谈论它的时候,我们玩过那个游戏。我的意思是在不同的休赛期,我们都在播客上做过这个。如果波波不回来,马刺队会找谁?我不知道我们是否曾经提到过米奇·约翰逊的名字。对。而且我认为,也许这就是整个联盟正在发生的现象,他凭借处理这项责任的方式,让自己进入了这个讨论。

所以马刺队必须留下他,对吧?这也许是最大的,最大的自由球员签约之一。呃,我不知道他的合同是否到期,但你必须留下他,对吧?

如果波波回来并想继续执教,而米奇得到其他地方的报价,这将会很有趣。这,这将会很有趣,看看会发生什么。这,这很好。我们,我们不会呃,就像我说的,我们下周不会和你们聊天。呃,我只是想说,我只是想说,我,为了完全公开,我,对读者或听众来说,我完全同意在平安夜做一期播客。不,我们可以点蜡烛、敲钟、吃饼干和牛奶。其他人都想做。只有我想。好吧,我相信我们可以……我相信我们可以做到。你可以自己做,杰夫。这将是有史以来最好的马刺播客。做吧,但只是做……这是30分钟的杰夫独白。我很想听,我不想听。但我很想让他做。我怎么做,我怎么做一个30分钟的像神秘科学剧场一样的圣诞假期?当我看的时候,我会评论它,做一些精辟的小评论。你可以,你知道……当然。当然。然而,虽然我们下周不录制播客,但汤姆·奥斯本会工作。他将进行东海岸之旅,实际上我有点失望今年我没有去。呃,去费城,汤姆喜欢那里,然后在圣诞节在纽约打两场比赛,对阵尼克斯队,两天后对阵篮网队。在我们再次在明尼苏达州集合,看看他们是否还在说森林狼队刚刚在主场击败了马刺队之前,杰夫将加入本地球队。呃,汤姆,我先从你开始。你期待在这趟旅程中看到什么?这是国家电视台的一个重要机会,对维克多·文班亚马和他的队友来说是一个重要的焦点时刻。呃,给我们预告一下即将到来的客场之旅。

是的,他们,我的意思是,一切都取决于那场圣诞大战。我的意思是,最引人注目的,他们是主要阵容的一部分。你知道,NBA显然很高兴让文班亚马成为焦点。你知道,他们能做到吗?呃,你知道,中午12点在纽约尼克斯队的主场开球。这将是那次旅程的中心比赛。呃,费城,你知道,恩比德的情况,而且,你知道,76人队一直在挣扎,尽管他们最近打得更好。我想他们在过去十场比赛中6胜4负。而且呃,如果你还记得去年迈克,你和我都在那里见证了恩比德的70分比赛。所以……是的。是的。是的。文班呃,文班亚马欠他们一些东西,我想。呃,布鲁克林应该会赢。所以我们,我们是在呃,我们是在这里做预测吗?是,是六场比赛的预测吗?

必须是六场。我们还没有提到呃,之前的两场。在主场对阵亚特兰大和波特兰。那,老鹰队。这是一场双赢的比赛,因为如果你,如果你击败了老鹰队,你就提高了你的战绩,你也提高了你的呃……你的选秀权,因为马刺队拥有今年老鹰队不受保护的选秀权。然后是我们提到的三场你客场之旅中的比赛,然后是杰夫负责的明尼苏达比赛。所以在31号我们呃,在我们再次录制之前,是两场主场比赛,四场客场比赛。呃,如果你想继续说你对六场比赛的预测,汤姆,如果你准备好了,那就说吧。

我认为这次旅程将反映我们在播客开始时所说的,他们是什么,一支胜率五成的球队。所以我预测3胜3负。

3胜3负。有什么,有什么意外的胜利吗?你认为他们会赢下哪些具体的比赛?

哦,天哪。或者只是一般的……总共3胜3负就可以了。我会接受的。

是的,我看到,我,是的,我没有看到任何冷门。我只是预测他们应该赢下的三场。波特兰,我想是费城和布鲁克林。

好的。周四主场不击败特雷·杨和令人讨厌的老鹰队?

不。

从,从他们的呃,他们的呃,NBA杯赛的余晖中走出来。

是的。呃,好的。这,这是一个合理的很好的预测,汤姆。杰夫,你想发表意见吗?

当然。我想我会预测3胜3负。

3胜3负?是的。好吧,就像汤姆说的,他们就是他们现在的样子。任何长时间的比赛都可能是他们会输的地方。他们终于可以和一些东部联盟……他们终于可以和一些东部联盟的球队比赛了。

没错。到目前为止,他们只和其中两支球队交手过,那是,那是西部最少的。所以,有两种方式来看待他们的,有两种方式来看待他们的战绩。呃,他们比我想的任何人都打了更多的主场比赛,而且他们13胜13负。但他们对所谓的东部球队的比赛也比任何人都少,而且他们13胜13负。所以随着赛程的进行,他们也许能够在东部取得更多胜利,但我不确定这次旅程。就像他们的,这大约是一次3胜3负的旅程。就像他们打的是,他们周日打的是不错的球队。

说清楚,不是一次3胜3负的旅程,而是一段3胜3负的时间。一段3胜3负的时间,没错。四场客场比赛。呃,是的,我一直,时不时地查看他们的赛程强度,而且它看起来,它仍然被评为中性,就像到目前为止是中性的,接下来的比赛也是中性的。因为杰夫说的没错。到目前为止,他们打的是不错的球队,但他们是在主场打的,然后接下来的比赛,他们打的是更多在客场的糟糕球队。所以……而且我不知道结果如何,但很多那种强度……我的意思是赛程强度基本上是基于他们已经交手过的对手的胜率。对。而且就像东部的一些球队,我的意思是在西部,有平庸的战绩。所以它会降低或使你的赛程强度中性,但他们比东部战绩更好的球队要好得多。比如丹佛可能比东部任何一支13胜的球队都要好。所以……或者,你知道,所以很难衡量,就像我感觉他们打了一个不错的赛程,而且13胜13负看起来还不错。

我同意。尼克·塔尔博特,对接下来的六场比赛有什么预测?

我,我也会说3胜3负。我认为汤姆关于他选择赢和输的比赛的推理是合理的。我认为那是,他们可能会赢和输的三场。只是他们就是他们,他们就是他们。他们会输给他们应该输给的球队,赢下他们应该赢下的球队。

我认为他们会击败亚特兰大。我会这么说。那你会预测4胜2负吗?或者你会……不,我认为他们会输掉其他那些……我认为,我认为他们可能会输掉其他那些……是的,布鲁克林可能会输。但这会很好。我以前常说你的战绩就是你,对吧,汤姆?你的战绩就是你。我以为那是大力水手说的。他们就是我们认为的那样。我就是我。顺便说一句,杰夫,你对呃,另一位传奇的比尔NFL教练不会来拯救你的达拉斯牛仔队感到失望吗?我的达拉斯牛仔队?是的,你的达拉斯牛仔队。我只喜欢罗迪。那是我唯一能接受的球队成员是罗迪。我会去问问罗迪。呃……是的。是的。所以,是的,顺便说一句,我会让它成为共识,并预测接下来的六场比赛3胜3负。管它呢?我确实认为马刺队会在本周四击败老鹰队。他们需要这样做。他们需要这样做。他们为明年至少储备的这些选秀权看起来不太好。

就像亚特兰大是……这真的是你带来的乌云,就像他们拥有所有这些选秀权。亚特兰大本来应该是一个获得状元签的机会,而他们正在努力……他们正在努力进入季后赛。他们仍然有可能。公牛队,公牛队,你知道,足够糟糕,他们可能会进入倒数前十。而夏洛特不会进入季后赛。这将非常接近。这将是……公牛队正处于他们想要的位置。你不希望他们太糟糕,以至于他们,他们在努力进入前十。但你也不希望他们太好,以至于你的,选秀权不好。你希望他们就在他们现在的位置。有点像选秀权也会在哪里。如果赛季,如果赛季现在结束,我相信他们会得到其中一个选秀权,而且它会是老鹰队的,它会在首轮中间,这不是……然后你,然后你把……这不是你明年希望的。但这不是你希望的。这不是你想要的。斯蒂芬·库里对特雷·杨的比赛会很有趣。

会的。嘿,说到斯蒂芬·库里和德章泰,把所有的一切联系在一起,在那场对阵鹈鹕队的比赛后的谈话中,德章泰在离开时对我说的最后一句话,就像我甚至没有问这个问题,他只是看着我,摇了摇头,他说,伙计,那个斯蒂芬·库里会很厉害。

所以他得到了,他得到了德章泰·默里认可的斯蒂芬·库里。现在有点挣扎,但你知道,新秀墙等等,但我们看到了好东西。

我们在对NBA球员的采访中得到的主动评论通常是最有趣的。然后,呃,我想提一下,我不确定我上周是否提到了这一点,但,呃,听众可能会觉得,呃,有点引人入胜的是……终于。终于我们到了引人入胜的部分。当我,当我一周前与杰里米·索汉(Jeremy Sochan)谈话时,是为了expressnews.com和《快报新闻》印刷版上的一篇专栏文章,呃,我知道杰夫读了并且很喜欢。

我确实。我确实。但是当我读它的时候,它看起来有点过时了。是吗?是的。杰里米有点来了,呃,我们……我正在和他谈论其他事情,也许是他的绿头发,而且,呃,他自己说这,你知道,这真的很难说出口,但,但去年真的很艰难。而且我知道我能听到一些更有经验的听众在那里抱怨,而且说现在这些孩子,他们所说的艰难,你知道,人们在社交媒体上对他们刻薄,等等。我明白。但当你20岁,你觉得全世界都与你为敌时,我只是觉得杰里米站出来说去年很艰难,这对他来说有点成熟。你知道他经历的控球后卫实验,他觉得他真的,他告诉我他特别困扰于一些,他说Instagram,这让我觉得很有趣。呃,Instagram上的表情包,呃,关于他如何与文班相处不好,以及他如何没有给文班足够的传球,就像那刺痛了他,而且它,它让他陷入了某种黑暗的地方。而且,呃,他站出来说,你知道,那去年确实困扰了他,他已经克服了,他今年做得更好。就像他一直以来,一点也不讽刺,他今年真的很令人愉快,无论是观看还是交谈。与他去年有点处于低谷的状态相比,简直是天壤之别。我想,你知道,汤姆提到杰里米在那场对阵波特兰的比赛的最后阶段表现很好。他在攻防两端都做到了。那对他来说是一场很棒的比赛。即使他拇指骨折,不得不休息了几周,他也有几个月的出色表现。今年对杰里米·索汉来说是非常好的一年,而且当你看到,呃,看到一些令人乐观的事情时,在我们进入赛程中的这段空档时,我认为杰里米·索汉的进步对马刺队来说是一件大事。

对我们来说,去年的遗憾是它夺走了那个家伙的快乐。就像作为一个新秀,他很有趣,可以和他聊天,很有趣,可以和他在一起,很有趣,喜欢采访他。然后到了第二个,第二个赛季中期,他甚至都不和任何人说话了。而且这不是因为他生我们的气,你知道,特别是。他只是生全世界的气,因为他觉得全世界都生他的气。而且这只是,这只是我们有点想念他,你知道,在人际层面上,我们只是想念那个,那个阳光开朗有趣的,那个灿烂的笑容。就像我们去年想念那样,而且很高兴它回来了。

是的。是的。是的。而且你知道,别打扰球员。我的意思是,你必须这样做。我明白,但就像……我无法想象处于那种情况……有这样一种说法,你知道,他们一年赚几百万美元,我可以在社交媒体上想说什么就说什么。坚强起来,我的意思是,你不能……仍然……你仍然……是的。你可以选择,如果你想的话,你可以选择做一个坏人。就像那没关系,那是你被允许的,但是……是的。是的。冷静下来。让汤姆,汤姆在那里笑着一些……他有话要说。

我们在社交媒体上也受到了不少辱骂。所以没有,没有到那种程度,但我不得不嘲笑一些,你知道,一些评论。这太荒谬了,你只是想,你知道,随便吧。如果你这么想,很好。我,我不得不注意到那些……就像鲍勃·霍普说的,这些人是怎么洗澡的?是的。我经常这么想。但就像我,我明白

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Wemby, Spurs defying early expectations

Columnist Mike Finger and Spurs beat reporters Jeff McDonald and Tom Orsborn discuss why the Spurs, despite a .500 record, are defying early expectations this season and might be closer to the top than anyone realizes.

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From a highly secure network of top-secret locations across South Texas, this is the Spurs Insider Holiday Edition. I am your holly jolly host, Mike Finger, joined by our ever-festive panel of Express-News Spurs beat writers, Tom Orsborn and Jeff McDonald, along with sports editor Nick Talbot.

We’re at that time of year when everybody’s spirits are up. We have a lull provided by the NBA Cup schedule that allows us to take stock of what the local cagers have done and what all of us have done so far this season and look forward to what’s next.

I’m going to start with Jeff, who is the most holly jolly of us all, all the time. Jeff, what do you want to start with, with the San Antonio Spurs, with the holiday season, with whatever? I’m going to leave it up to you right now. Topic number one.

This is my job now? I’m just… You’re the host. This is the spirit of giving, and I’m giving you this opportunity. You’re giving me a new job. Okay. Uh, what do we want to talk about? Uh… Man, you put me on the spot. Um… Okay. Uh, Victor Wembanyama. I’ll help you out. Oh yeah, okay, good topic. Victor Wembanyama says when he takes stock of the holiday season, this lull in the schedule, this uh, the first 26 games of the NBA slate in which the local cagers have gone 13 and 13, he says he looks at the standings and in the spirit of gratitude says that the top is not that far away. The Spurs are in 11th place, but do you agree with him that the top is not that far away?

What I agree with him on is, you know, they’re 13 and 13. They are perfectly average, perfectly mediocre, and that is a huge improvement from last season. Like so far you have to say, this is sort of what you were looking for from this season if you were any sort of realist. Just some sign of life, some sign that this is heading in the right direction. And after 26 games last year they were four and 22. After 26 games this year they’re 13 and 13. It’s hard to argue that that isn’t a clear sign of progress. Um, and yeah, they’re in 11th place in the West. They would be eighth in the East, a little more like solidly in that playing contention. Um, the West is a jumble though, like between five and twelve everybody’s got 13 or 14 wins. And some teams have played more than others and whatnot and have better winning percentages and are better teams. But there’s a logjam in there and the Spurs have put themselves in that logjam. And I think what you can say is they have clearly separated themselves from the absolute dregs of the conference. Like last year they were the dregs of the conference. They’ve clearly, they’re clearly better than those three teams that are below them. And I think that’s a sign of improvement as well. I think anybody that was expecting a bigger leap than that was probably expecting a little too much, but I think we’re seeing some signs of progress that we wanted to see through the first 25, 26 games of this season.

On that note, Jeff McDonald, you provided me with a perfect host segue. That’s my gift to you. To a game that Tom Orsborn covered. The game that was added to the schedule in Portland, Oregon last week where they faced one of those dregs of the Western Conference, and in a game that resembled in many ways many of the games that the Spurs played last year when they were at the bottom of the conference. Things just weren’t going right. They were going to lose to uh, they were on their way to possibly losing to another bad team. Just didn’t know what they were doing in the second half. And yet this time it was the Portland Trail Blazers who played the role of last year’s Spurs and the Spurs showed their gumption, showed their progress, showed their late-game know-how and pulled away to get that victory on the road against an admittedly bad team, Tom. But that’s a game that they probably would not have won a year ago.

Yeah, and to make it even more uh, you know, noteworthy, they did it with Chris Paul in the locker room. Yeah. And um, you know, Devin, uh, Wembanyama and Devin were hunting baskets. Julian came up big in that sense too and then um, Jeremy played great defense on Simmons in the fourth quarter. Um, yeah, they just kept plugging away at it, but that game to me, I’ll always remember it for, you know, being there in the tunnel. Um, I was kind of, I kind of got uh, both myself, uh Mitch, and a member of the PR staff, Jordan, we got kind of mixed up. So we all walked in together to the press room, which uh afforded me an opportunity to be right there before when they came in. Um, I know I’m not explaining that well, but it was just kind of by circumstantial that I was right there when Chris Paul is handing out high fives and handshakes and hugging. I’ve never seen a guy more happy, really. He was, he was probably a little bit of relief, but but also just proud of the guys for doing it without him, you know, for pulling it out as you pointed out, Mike.

You’ve never seen a happier guy post… You’d never see Jeff McDonald act that way after a big… a big triple take. No. He’s just standing back there in the press room congratulating his fellow scribes. Uh, you’ve never seen me on the last day of the season. Oh, yeah. There’s one thing I will tell you about Chris Paul is uh, he’s been in the league a long time. I mean he’s never like been kicked out of the game and had to watch the Spurs come back in Portland in the fourth from the locker room in the fourth quarter. That’s a good point. Yeah, I mean that, that it was something new for the guy and he really was happy. I mean it was… It was his seventh career ejection. That is, that is true. It wasn’t uh, it’s not something that happens a lot. Then he got a tech again the next game. He’s ornery these days. Yep. Uh, just to go back to our last podcast, I believe uh, you know, some of the listeners that we interact with at the games were trying to suggest to us the other day, Jeff, that one of us picked the Spurs to go over two this week. I don’t think anybody did that. I think we all had them one and one. No. We were all correct. That listener was confused. Uh, the second half of the one and one was a game that did not go so well at home in the friendly confines of the Frost Bank Center against the Minnesota Timberwolves. One of the uglier offensive, one of the most offensive offensive performances of the season. Sometimes things just don’t go right and you have a lot of guys missing shots, uh, some sloppy turnover-ish problems. Jeff mentioned to me up on the platform 107 that uh, this was one of those rare games where uh, it was once again Victor Wembanyama just looking for some help, and that hasn’t been the case all year long. He’s gotten all kinds of help all year. This one was just, nothing was going right. And I guess uh, during an 82 game season you’re just going to have one of those, and that was one that just did not go the local cagers’ way.

Yeah, usually when they’re kind of struggling to get out of the gate you can look at it and it’s, oh well Victor’s not shooting it well. He’s going to, he’s going to have a lot of volume. He’s going to shoot the ball a lot and if he’s not making them the offense can look a little ragged. But against Minnesota at halftime he was very nearly on pace for a quadruple double. He was doing everything. And they scored 37 points and were getting punched in the mouth because nobody else was doing squat. And some guys came along in the second half, Harrison Barnes, and I guess Sochan was good throughout. But um, he just didn’t have a lot of help that game. And then he kind of faded at the end too and they ended up getting routed because they couldn’t score. But Minnesota, like that’s how come they were in the Western Conference Finals last year, was that defense. And they weren’t always doing that this year. You know earlier when Anthony Edwards was calling out his own team for being soft and I don’t know if that had an effect or whatever, but they’re playing their tails off defensively and the Spurs were not really prepared for that to me, to my eyes. It just seemed like they got punked basically. The Timberwolves were up in them, up in their jerseys and in the passing lanes and contesting everything and putting pressure on every dribble and the Spurs kind of, kind of whiffed out a little. And I think that’s the main reason they scored whatever, 72 points. We’re going to go viral now with the… Well but you know you have those games where you’re just not… you whiffed out. Yeah, well you’re just not, you go from playing Portland who is not really going to challenge you to a team that is going to hit you in the face and it… it’s a matter of how you respond and I don’t think anybody involved with the Spurs would argue they did not respond very well against the Timberwolves.

Yeah. But that the net result is during this three-day break, one and one at the end of the, at the end of the NBA Cup schedule, um, the Spurs were 13 and 13. And uh, shoot, if you would have suggested that seven or eight weeks ago when the season began, I think uh, like a lot of us here on the podcast would have thought that was exceeding expectations. We were all picking them to finish the season below 500, I believe, in victory totals in the mid-thirties. So this is uh, by definition ahead of schedule. This podcast by the way, I want to mention before we get too far into it, will be the final one until New Year’s Eve. We’re going to take next week off. It’s our first week off of the season. Give everyone a breather. Give the listeners a rest from us, which I think you all deserve. Um, so that being said we’re going to look forward a lot in this podcast. We’re going to look forward to a big East Coast trip coming up to the, to the next section of the schedule. There is some more old business, isn’t there? Like the Roberts Rules of Order, the parliamentary procedure, there’s old business and new business. The last bit of old business to look back at is uh, yet we’re taping this on Tuesday. On Monday we got our first public statement from Gregg Popovich. I think we, some of us had expected this to be coming for a while. Uh, you knew he was going to say something, um, but it was nice to hear, not to hear but to see uh, Gregg Popovich’s personality that definitely, Gregg Popovich definitely had final say in that statement. You could tell it’s him, yeah, that the Spurs released on Monday. First, first public statement since he suffered with the team termed a minor stroke on November 2nd. Um, and uh, you know he said he’s grateful to everyone for reaching out, can’t talk to everybody, um, doing well, feeling well, uh, in his typical self-deprecating joke at the end about how uh, the trainers, the doctors working with him are getting sick of… no one would, no one’s going to be more excited about him returning to the bench than those folks who have learned that he is not so coachable. Um, any surprises, anything noteworthy we need to discuss on that Jeff and Tom?

Well the noteworthy thing was the second graph, um, you know, just saying, uh, suggesting a return to the bench. To me that jumped out right away since there was, you know, some doubt after uh, any kind of a stroke, mild or otherwise. But um, yeah, that jumped out to me.

I don’t think that’s a guarantee yet. I think that, I think that’s encouraging that he would mention that as a, you know, the way the statement is worded it definitely does not say he’s planning to return. He says no one’s more excited about him returning than those folks. I think he wants to, but I mean I think it’s… I probably shouldn’t have said I think he wants to. I think we shouldn’t speculate about anything in this situation. It’s still, he’s still a 75-year-old man who had a stroke. Uh, no, no coach in NBA history has ever coached at his age. That was the case before this, that remains that case. So I think the Spurs will give him time, he will take his time. I don’t believe they will do anything uh, to put him at further risk. But it is encouraging, Jeff, just to hear that voice in print form again.

Yeah, there’s some uncertainty about whether he’s going to return. I think that’s fair to say. I don’t think, but I do think it’s a little bit notable that that little joke or whatever was there because he didn’t have to say it at all. You know that statement would have been fine without it. So if there could be a purpose to at least floating the idea. But like you said it’s, it’s there’s a lot of uncertainty and it’s not… I didn’t want to think how to phrase this. It’s not completely up to him, it’s up to his health if that makes sense. Yeah. Correct.

Yep. So uh, we’ll see. But we’re wishing him well. I want to put that out there too. We’re wishing him well. We are for sure. Hope everything’s, you know, everyone says he’s doing well. We don’t know precisely what that means but hearing that he’s doing well is, you know, better than the alternative. So we wish him well.

Yep. Yep. And uh… And I do think that uh, Mitch Johnson, who Jeff had a really, really, really long, nice nice and… You’re going to say long, right? And nice in the story about in the newspaper last week. Uh, Mitch Johnson’s going to continue to do that for the foreseeable future. We don’t see Pop coming back uh, next week, um, you know, next couple of weeks whatever. But uh, Jeff, that was, that was really, really adequate that story that you did on Mitch. And I thoroughly uh, read it. Um, any highlights you want to share with the folks then? I appreciate you thoroughly reading it. No, it was, it was excellent. The lead anecdote I do think is worth discussing. Uh, you talked to my old friend Dejounte Murray. You did not get my dollar from Dejounte Murray that I’m still owing. But Dejounte, um, this is, I think some people knew this before, but you wrote it quite well. Uh, Mitch sort of just saved Dejounte as a young kid in Seattle.

Yeah, he was, he was one of the guys that helped put, and Dejounte will say this in his own words, helped put Dejounte on a better path than he was. I mean I think a lot of us know Dejounte’s story. He was in and out of juvie like multiple times before he was 16 years old. And um, when he finally decided enough was enough, Mitch Johnson was one of the guys that was around. And he was kind of a family friend, kind of a friend of Dejounte’s uncle. Mitch at that time was out of Stanford and was back in, back in his hometown of Seattle and just kind of in the basketball scene. And he was kind of tapped to like, can you help this kid? And you know, got him on the straight and narrow. Basically started up an entire AAU team just to give Dejounte some focus and structure in his life. And the way Dejounte told the story was we weren’t trying to get to the NBA, we weren’t talking about that. We were just saying like, do the, like talking about doing the right things. Staying off the streets, doing the right things, doing, doing um, you know, honest things with your life and then, and then good things will happen um, in your life, not just basketball. And so Dejounte gives Mitch a lot of credit for basically keeping him out of jail or alive. And um, when the Spurs drafted Dejounte in 2016, um, you know, obviously there were some flags in Dejounte’s background when the Spurs drafted him and anytime you kind of take on a kid like that you’re looking for people that maybe can help him make the transition to the NBA. And Mitch Johnson was the guy that the Spurs brought on at that time simply to be on staff because Dejounte was there. And so that’s how, that’s how Mitch got to San Antonio. Um, he started as an assistant actually in the G League in Austin and then worked his way up. They liked what they saw from him as a coach, not just as a Dejounte whisperer. And he kind of worked his way up through the ranks and all of a sudden here he is filling in for the winningest coach in NBA history while he recovers from illness. So it’s a remarkable story kind of just how Mitch came to be where he is and Dejounte is part of that and it didn’t start as anything besides just trying to help out a family friend.

Yep. And it’s a story of um, well-told by Jeff, a story of not just a guy who got a job because he knew who the point guard… I mean that’s part of it, but also just uh, no matter who you talk to in this league around the Spurs, front office, support staff, what have you, all just overwhelmingly complimentary of Mitch and everything he did with the opportunity he was given, continuing to do that today. I mean that’s another case of he gets the job because Gregg Popovich isn’t able to continue doing it. And what has he done since getting that opportunity? He’s led the Spurs to a record that’s miles and miles ahead of where they were last year. I mean there’s other factors to play into that, but um, still Mitch has done pretty well for himself. Nice success story in a general sense and in a literal sense that the story that ran in the paper last week. Look that up. Look Jeff’s stuff up on expressnews.com. It’s still there online too. Online. Yeah. Um, and maybe it’s a little crass to say, I don’t know, but but Mitch has done, like made some hay with this opportunity.

Yes. Even if, even if, even if and when Pop comes back and retakes the reigns like Mitch Johnson has uh, put himself on the radar for other jobs and he’s already been interviewed for other jobs before this, but now he’s got, I mean you can, he’s got a case he can, and people have seen it with their own eyes now. They’ve seen what it looks like when Mitch Johnson is coaching an NBA basketball team and acting as the head coach and running things. And I think he’s done himself some favors when it comes to future jobs whether it’s with the Spurs or elsewhere. He’s going to, he’s going to get some attention.

Well, um, and I don’t think this is uncouth to say, um, or inappropriate to say, uh, Gregg Popovich is not going to coach until he’s eighty. Like he’s, he’s going to, if this doesn’t lead to his retirement, this health scare lead to his retirement, he’s not going to coach forever. And I think that what Mitch Johnson has done so far is uh, put it in the Spurs’ mind that if they’re going to look outside the organization for somebody it has to be somebody that’s clearly, clearly better than Mitch Johnson because if they go just for some other guy, some other person, uh, like that, your Victor Wembanyamas, your Devin Vassels, your Jeremy Sochans are all going to say, hey we like this guy here, you know. Uh, I think he’s won over a lot of people in that locker room, a lot of people like I said around the organization. So uh, it’s perfectly fine I think to say that he has made himself a viable long-term replacement at some point in this organization.

I know that the Spurs, you know, Pop has been, it’s no secret Pop has been the oldest coach in the league for a while now, so they have to be thinking about when Pop, you know, for years they have to have been thinking about when Pop does hang it up, who’s, who are some candidates to replace them. And I know they’ve got a short list of guys they would consider. I don’t know who’s on it. I don’t pretend to know who’s on it. And maybe Mitch Johnson was on it before, um, you know, November 2nd of this year. I don’t know. But I know when we’ve talked about it we’ve played that game. I mean we’ve done this on the podcast for different off-seasons. If Pop doesn’t come back who would, who would the Spurs turn to? I don’t know that we ever mentioned Mitch Johnson as a name. Right. And I think, and maybe that’s the phenomenon that’s happening across the league is he has put himself in that conversation with the way that he has handled this responsibility.

So the Spurs gotta keep him, right? That’s maybe the big, one of the biggest free agent signings. Uh, I don’t know if his contract’s up but you gotta keep him, right?

It’s going to be interesting. It will be interesting if Pop comes back and wants to keep going and Mitch gets offers elsewhere. It would, it would be interesting to see what happens. That is, that’s good stuff. Um, we’re, we’re not going to be uh, like I said we’re not going to talk to you guys next week. Uh, I just want to say, I just want to say that I, like for full disclosure, I, to the readers or listeners out there, I was fully down with doing a Christmas Eve podcast. No, we could have candlelight and bells and cookies and milk. Nobody else wanted to do it. It was only me. Well I’m sure we can make… I’m sure we can make that happen. You can do it by yourself, Jeff. It would be the best Spurs podcast ever. Do it, but just do… it’s a 30-minute Jeff monologue. I would, I would love to hear, I would not love to hear that. But I would love to make him do it. How about I do, how about I do like a 30-minute like Mystery Science Theater of like Christmas Vacation? While I watch it I’ll comment on it, make pithy little comments. You can, you know… Sure. Sure. Someone who will be working next week though while we are not recording a podcast though is Tom Orsborn. He’s on the big East Coast trip that I’m actually a little disappointed I’m not making this year. Uh, to Philadelphia, which Tom loves, then two games in New York on Christmas Day against the Knicks, two days later against the Nets. Jeff will be joining the local cagers before we convene again in Minnesota to see if they’re still saying Timberwolves that just smacked down the Spurs at home. Uh, Tom I’ll start with you. Just what are you looking forward to seeing on this trip? It’s a big national TV opportunity, big spotlight moment for Victor Wembanyama and company. Uh, just give us your preview of the road trip to come.

Yeah, they, I mean it all goes to that Christmas Day game. I mean the marquee, they’re part of the marquee lineup. Um, you know the NBA’s obviously really happy to have Victor in that spotlight. You know, do they live up to it? Uh, you know, twelve o’clock start against at the New York Knicks. That’ll be the centerpiece game of that trip. Uh, Philly, you know, with Embiid’s situation, um, and the, you know, the Sixers struggling like they have been, although they played better of late. I think they’re six and four in the last ten. Um, and uh, if you remember last year Mike, you and I were there for Embiid’s 70-point game. So… Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Victor uh, Victor owes them something I think. Uh, Brooklyn should be a win there. So are we, are we doing the uh, are we doing the prediction here? Is it, is it a six-game prediction?

It’s gotta be six-game. We haven’t mentioned uh, the two before that. It’s Atlanta and Portland at home. That, the Hawks. It’s a double game there because if you, if you beat the Hawks you improve your record and you improve your uh… your draft pick because the Spurs own that unprotected Hawks draft pick this year. Um, and then the three games we mentioned on your part of the road trip, then the Minnesota game that Jeff’s got. So that is two home games, four road games before we uh, before we tape again on the 31st. Uh, if you want to go ahead and give your six-game prediction Tom, if you’re prepared for that, go right ahead.

I think this trip will reflect what we said at the start of the podcast, what they are, a 500 team. So I’m going with three and three.

Three and three. Any, any surprise victories there in there? Any specific victories you think they’re going to pull out?

Oh boy. Or just a general… that three and three overall is fine. I’ll accept that.

Yeah, I’m seeing that, I’m, yeah I’m not seeing any upsets. I’m just going with the three they should win. Um, Portland, I think Philadelphia and Brooklyn.

Okay. Not beating Trae Young and the hated Hawks at home on Thursday?

No.

Coming off the, coming off their uh, their uh, NBA Cup afterglow.

Yeah. Uh, okay. That’s, that’s, that’s a legitimate good prediction there, Tom. Jeff, do you want to weigh in?

Sure. I think I’d go three and three.

Three and three? Yeah. Well, it’s kind of like Tom said, they are what they are. And any long stretch of games is probably going to be where they fall. They get to play some Eastern Conference… they get to play some Eastern Conference teams finally.

That’s true. They’ve only played two of them so far and that was, that’s a low for the West. So um, there are two ways to look at their, there are two ways to look at their record. Uh, they’ve played more home games than I think than anybody and they’re 13 and 13. But they’ve also played fewer games against the purported East than anybody and they’re 13 and 13. So they might be able to fatten up on the East as the schedule goes along but I don’t know about this trip. Like their, that’s about a three and three trip though. Like they’re playing like, they’re playing decent teams Sunday.

To be clear not a three and three trip but a three and three stretch. Three and three stretch, correct. Four road games. Uh, yeah I’ve been, every now and then checking on their schedule strength and it continues to look, it continues to be rated as neutral, like neutral so far, neutral the rest of the way. Um, because exactly what Jeff said. They’re playing good teams so far but they’re playing them at home and then the rest of the way they’re playing more bad teams that are on the road. So… and I don’t know how it works out but a lot of that strength… I mean the strength of schedule is basically based on the winning percentage of the opponents they’ve played. Right. And like some of the teams in the East, I mean in the West, have mediocre records. So it’s going to bring down or make your neutral your strength of schedule, but they’re much better than a team with maybe a better record in the East. Like Denver for instance is probably better than anybody with 13 wins in the East. So… or, you know, so it’s, it’s hard to gauge like, I feel like they played a decent enough schedule and 13 and 13 seems pretty nice.

I agree. Nick Talbot, any prediction for the next six games?

I, I would also say three and three. I think Tom’s reasoning was sound on the games he picked to win and lose. I think that’s the, the three they will probably win and lose. It’s just they are what they, they are what they are. They’re going to lose to the teams they should lose to and win against the teams they should win against.

I think they’re going to beat Atlanta. I’ll put that out there. Are you going to go four and two then? Or are you going to have… No I think they’ll lose one of those other… I think, I think they’ll lose maybe those other… Yeah Brooklyn might be a loss. Um, But it’ll be nice. I was used to say you are what your record are, right Tom? You are what your record is. I thought that was Popeye. They are who we thought they were. I am what I am. Um, by the way Jeff, are you disappointed that uh, another legendary Bill NFL coach is not going to come to rescue your Dallas Cowboys? My Dallas Cowboys? Yeah, your Dallas Cowboys. I’m only a fan of Rowdy. That’s the only member of that team I can get with is Rowdy. I’ll go run it by Rowdy. Uh… Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, and by the way, I’ll just make it a consensus and go three and three for the next six games. What the heck? I do think the Spurs are going to beat the Hawks this Thursday. They need to. They need to. These draft picks they’ve stockpiled for next year at least aren’t looking so hot.

Like Atlanta was… that’s really a black cloud you’re bringing there, like they’ve got all these picks. Atlanta was supposed to be like a chance at a number one pick and they’re flirting with… They’re flirting with making the dang playoffs. They still might be. The Bulls, the Bulls are, you know, bad enough they’re going to be in the bottom ten maybe. And Charlotte isn’t going to make the playoffs. That’s going to be really close. That’s going to be… the Bulls are right where they want to be. You don’t want them so bad that they’re, that they’re trying to be in the top ten. But you don’t want them so good that your, the picks not good. You want them right where they are. Kind of where the picks going to be too. If the season, if the season ended right now I believe they get one of those picks and it would be the Hawks which would be like in the middle of the first round, which is not… Then you, then you put… That’s not what you’re hoping for next year. But it’s not what you’re hoping for. It’s not what you want. Steph Curry on Trae Young will be fun to watch.

It will be. Hey speaking of Steph Curry and Dejounte to tie it all together, after that conversation following the Pelicans game, the last thing Dejounte said to me on his way out, like I didn’t even ask this question, he just looked at me and he shook his head and he said, man that Steph Curry’s going to be pretty good.

So he’s got, he’s Dejounte Murray approved Steph Curry. Struggling a little bit now, but you know, rookie wall and such, but we see good things.

The unsolicited comments in these interviews that we have with NBA players are often the most interesting. And then uh, I wanted to bring up, I’m not sure I mentioned this last week, but uh, something that the listeners might find uh, a bit compelling is… Finally. Finally we get to the compelling part. When I talked, when I talked to Jeremy Sochan a week or so ago for a column that was on expressnews.com uh, in the Express-News print editions that uh, that I know Jeff read and really dug.

I did. I did. It seemed a little dated when I read it though. Is that right? Yeah. Jeremy kind of came uh, we… I was talking to him about something else, maybe his green hair and uh, kind of on his own he said this is, you know, this is really hard to talk about, but but last year was really difficult. And I know I can hear some of the more grizzled listeners out there kind of groaning and and saying all these kids these days, what they call difficult, you know, people are mean to them on social media, what have you. I get that. But when you’re 20 years old and you feel like the whole world is against you, I just thought that was um, kind of mature for Jeremy to come out and say that last year was difficult. You know the point guard experiment that he went through, he felt like he was really, he told me he was especially bothered by some of the, he said Instagram which struck me as funny. Uh, the Instagram memes of uh, how he didn’t get along with Victor and how he didn’t pass enough to Victor, like that dug at him, um, and it, it put him in kind of a dark place. And uh, for him to come out and say that, you know, that did bother him last year, that he’s over it, that he’s doing better this year. Like he has been, no sarcasm at all, he’s just a true delight to watch, to talk to this year. Just night and day from where he was kind of at the bottom last year. Um, I think, you know Tom had mentioned that Jeremy played well at the end of that Portland game. He was doing it at both ends. That was a great game for him. He’s had a great couple of months even though he broke his thumb and had to sit out for a few weeks. This has been a really good Jeremy Sochan year and when you’re looking at uh, at things to be upbeat about here as we hit this kind of lull in the schedule, I think that the progress of Jeremy Sochan has been a big thing for the Spurs so far.

The, the and the bummer of last year for us was it just stole that guy’s joy. Like as a rookie he was so fun to talk to and fun to be around and funny, loved interviewing him. And then by the middle of the second, second season he wouldn’t even talk to anybody. And it wasn’t because he was mad at us, you know, specifically. He was just mad at the world because he felt like the world was mad at him. And it was just, it was just we kind of missed him, you know on a human level we just missed that, that bright bubbly funny, that big smile. Like we missed that last year and it’s good to have that back.

Yep. Yep. Yep. And you know, leave players alone. I mean you kind of have to. I get it but it’s just like… I can’t imagine being in that situation where… There’s that line of, you know, they make millions of dollars a year and I can say what I want to on social media. Toughen up, I mean, you can’t… still… you still… Yeah. You can choose, you can choose to be a bad human if you want. Like that’s fine, that’s your allowed to, but… Yeah. Yeah. Just chill out. Let Tom, Tom was chuckling there at some… he has something to say.

We get our share of abuse on social media as well. So not, not to that extent, but I have to chuckle at some of the, you know, some of the comments. It’s just so ridiculous and you just think, you know, whatever. If you think that way great. I’ve, I’ve had to notice those kind of… As Bob Hope would say, how do these people bathe? Yeah. I have thought that a lot. But like I, I get the