[PtR] 对一些前马刺球员来说,2024-25 赛季是成败攸关的一季

By Jeje Gomez, Marilyn Dubinski, Mark Barrington, Jacob Douglas | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2024-09-24 22:00:00

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NBA: 亚特兰大老鹰队对阵芝加哥公牛队

下个赛季将决定联盟如何看待马刺前核心球员的未来。

德章泰·默里(Dejounte Murray)将在新奥尔良迎来另一个重拾全明星状态的机会。你认为他能再次达到那个水平吗?

玛丽莲·杜宾斯基(Marilyn Dubinski): 考虑到在新奥尔良,随着CJ·麦科勒姆(CJ McCollum)回到他更喜欢的无球位置,默里将拥有更多的球权,并且他将被锡安·威廉姆森(Zion Williamson)和布兰登·英格拉姆(Brandon Ingram)(假设他没有被交易)这样的球星所包围,他当然有机会回到自己的最佳状态。话虽如此,我不认为默里会再次入选全明星。他上次入选全明星是因为顶替受伤球员,而西部赛区的竞争只会越来越激烈。所以从技术上讲,是的,他可以恢复到最佳状态,因为他不需要再与特雷·杨(Trae Young)分享控球职责,但我不认为他会成为全明星。

马克·巴灵顿(Mark Barrington): 我是德章泰·默里的球迷,尽管有些马刺球迷对他善变的社交媒体形象感到反感。他在比赛中一直很努力,如果能保持健康,他应该每年都能接近全明星水准。在与特雷·杨搭档后场时,他显得有些黯然失色,而与麦科勒姆搭档应该会更合适。他可能只有在西部某位超级后卫受伤或状态不佳的情况下才能入选全明星赛,但这并非罕见情况。我认为他会表现出色,本赛季有大约 50% 的几率入选全明星赛。

雅各布·道格拉斯(Jacob Douglas): 全明星有点难。我仍然认为默里可以成为一支强队的优秀二号位或三号位球员——这正是他在新奥尔良的角色。默里被误认为是那种可以多次入选全明星或最佳阵容的“领袖”。我真的很喜欢他在防守端的压迫性和对篮筐的冲击力能为鹈鹕队带来的帮助。现在如果他们能找到一个首发中锋就好了……

杰伊·戈麦斯(Jeje Gomez): 默里在马刺队时,能够掌控球权,打出了全明星级别的水平。他在新奥尔良无法做到这一点,因为鹈鹕队拥有锡安·威廉姆森这样的进攻第一选择,而且除非他们找到交易伙伴,否则布兰登·英格拉姆将是第二选择。我认为,在一个优秀的团队中,默里扮演的角色有所减轻,但仍然可以组织进攻,这可能会激励他更加努力地投入到防守端,他在老鹰队的防守表现很糟糕。如果他能重新成为一名攻防兼备的球员,我相信鹈鹕队会很高兴,默里也会恢复他的声誉,即使没有全明星的光环。

朗尼·沃克四世(Lonnie Walker IV)现在是一名凯尔特人球员。你认为他最终能确立自己轮换球员的地位,还是会在本赛季结束后继续漂泊?

杜宾斯基: 这是有可能的,因为他有机会赢得一个轮换阵容的位置,而且没有比在一支冠军球队中扮演好角色球员更能提升球员声望的了,但在七年之后,也许是时候承认朗尼就是这样一名球员了:一个能跑能跳的平庸摇摆人,投篮低于平均水平,而且以时不时隐身而闻名。尽管我爱朗尼,也希望他成功,但这可能是他最后的机会,也是最好的机会,让他从芸芸众生中脱颖而出,并建立起一个超越流浪球员的职业生涯。

巴灵顿: 在联盟征战了七年之后,朗尼似乎已经定型了。凯尔特人队对他来说是一支很棒的球队,因为他们不会对他要求太多,而且他长时间消失的倾向也不会那么引人注目。我认为他也将受益于他与德里克·怀特(Derrick White)的关系,这为他提供了一种他在最近几个地方所没有的更衣室舒适感。如果他偶尔能站出来,贡献一些精彩的得分时刻,那么他就有了自己的位置。但他的角色不会超过替补球员。

道格拉斯: NBA 里有沃克四世这样球员的位置,他们投篮命中率超过 38%,并且拥有他那样的运动能力。我不确定这个位置在波士顿。如果他能进入球队,他会成为一名很棒的轮换阵容球员。NBA 现在充满了年轻的天才球员,这让很多像沃克四世这样还没能立即站稳脚跟的球员被拒之门外。如果两名马刺后卫在离开圣安东尼奥后都在波士顿拥有了漫长的职业生涯,那将是一件很有趣的事。

戈麦斯: 假设朗尼能在最终名单中占有一席之地,这看起来很有可能,但很难看出他在哪里才能获得上场时间。萨姆·豪泽(Sam Hauser)的表现必须令人失望,他才会掉出轮换阵容。也许,如果怀特和朱·霍乐迪(Jrue Holiday)中的一人一直在场上,他会得到一些佩顿·普里查德(Payton Pritchard)的出场时间?伤病是不可避免的,朗尼也可能在一段时间内状态火热,所以他有机会为自己赢得一席之地,但这并不能保证。在一个更愚蠢、更宽容的 NBA 时代,沃克的年轻和运动能力,以及他在马刺最后一个赛季末的强势表现,会让一些高管豪赌他能将这一切融合在一起。而在现在这个时代,朗尼似乎注定要在剩下的职业生涯里为了一份底薪合同或接近底薪的合同而战。

哪位前马刺球员会有更好的个人赛季,德玛尔·德罗赞(DeMar DeRozan)还是德里克·怀特?

杜宾斯基: 从数据上看,是德罗赞。他总能以全明星级别的水平得分,而且很有可能成为国王队的得分王(或者仅次于达龙·福克斯(De’Aaron Fox))。他也应该比在芝加哥(甚至圣安东尼奥)处于更好的环境中,他们应该能进入季后赛。然而,在本赛季结束时,怀特可能会是更快乐的球员,我们也会更频繁地听到他的名字,因为凯尔特人队在季后赛中应该会走得更远——甚至可能卫冕冠军——而德罗赞无冠的命运很可能会继续下去。

巴灵顿: 你这是让我在我最喜欢的两位前马刺球员中做出选择,这是不可能完成的任务。我认为他们俩都会有一个很棒的赛季。看看德罗赞将如何提升国王队,这将会很有趣,他和达龙·福克斯的后场组合看起来很理想。德里克·怀特在凯尔特人队更多的是一个角色球员,但他对球队的成功至关重要,他们很有机会在今年卫冕。

道格拉斯: 怀特轻松胜出。波士顿将继续是 NBA 中最好的球队,而他将是其中重要的一员。我怀疑萨克拉门托在用哈里森·巴恩斯(Harrison Barnes)换来德罗赞后会取得疯狂的进步。我怀疑德罗赞作为福克斯和萨博尼斯(Sabonis)之后的第三选择会有什么样的表现。我认为他可以在他们以挡拆为主的进攻体系中茁壮成长,因为他有能力在中距离找到自己的位置。我仍然更喜欢怀特在波士顿强大的进攻体系中的防守能力和空间拉伸能力。

戈麦斯: 这取决于我们如何定义更好的赛季。德里克·怀特的角色与德罗赞完全不同。就数据而言,德玛尔有优势,因为他将是进攻端的主要选择之一,但怀特可以得到一些分数,并且仍然对比赛产生巨大的影响。我不会回避这个问题,所以我选择怀特。德罗赞将不得不适应新的进攻体系,并且可能会看到他的得分和助攻在福克斯和萨博尼斯身边有所下降,对手也可能会在防守端针对他。对怀特来说,事情就简单多了,他可能不会看到自己的数据有所提高,但他只需要继续做他在波士顿一直在做的事情,就能成为联盟中最有价值的角色球员之一。

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For some former Spurs, 2024-25 is a make-or-break season

NBA: Atlanta Hawks at Chicago Bulls

Next season could determine how the league sees the members of the Spurs’ former core going forward.

Dejounte Murray will get another opportunity to regain his All-Star form in New Orleans. Do you think he can get to that level again?

Marilyn Dubinski: He certainly has a chance to return to his best form considering he will have the ball in his hands more in New Orleans as CJ McCollum moves back to his preferred spot off the ball, and he will be surrounded by more star power in Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram (assuming he isn’t traded). That being said, I don’t expect Murray to be an All-Star again. When he was, it was as an injury replacement, and the West just continues to get deeper and deeper. So technically, yes he can return to his best form again because he won’t be sharing the ball-handling duties with Trae Young, but I don’t expect him to be an All-Star.

Mark Barrington: I’m a Dejounte Murray fan, even some Spurs fans are put off by his mercurial social media presence. He has worked hard on his game and should be on the periphery of All Star form every year if he remains healthy. He was a little overshadowed working in the same backcourt as Trae Young, and he should be a better match with McCollum. He’s probably only going to the All Star Game if one of the superstar guards in the west has an injury or an off year, but that is not an uncommon occurrence. I think he’ll be really good and have about a 50% chance of making the All Star Game this season.

Jacob Douglas: All-Star is a stretch. I still think Murray can be a good second or third option on a strong team – which is what he will be in New Orleans. Murray is miscast as “the guy” who makes several All-Star games or All-NBA teams. I really like what his point-of-attack defense and rim pressure can provide for this Pelicans squad. Now if they could just find a starting center…

Jeje Gomez: Murray played at an All-Star level when he could dominate the ball for a bad Spurs team. He won’t get to do that in New Orleans, since the Pelicans have a first option in Zion Williamson and, unless they find a trade partner, a second option in Brandon Ingram. I do think a reduced role in which he still runs the offense on a good team could motivate Murray, who has been terrible on defense with the Hawks, to try harder on that end. If he goes back to being a two-way player I’m sure the Pelicans will be happy and Murray will restore his reputation, even if there’s no All-Star buzz.

Lonnie Walker IV is a Celtic. Do you think he can finally establish himself as a rotation player or will he remain a journeyman after this season?

Dubinski: It’s possible considering there is room for him to earn a rotation spot, and there’s no better way to glorify a role player than for him to compliment a championship-winning team well, but after seven years, it may be time to accept that Lonnie just is who he is that this point: a dime-a-dozen swingman who can run and dunk but is a below average shooter who has a reputation for disappearing for stretches. As much as I love Lonnie and want him to succeed, this might be his best and possibly last chance to separate himself from the pack and establish a career beyond being a journeyman.

Barrington: After seven years in the league, it seems likely that Lonnie is the player he will be for the rest of his career. The Celtics is a great team for him to land on, because they aren’t going to ask too much of him, and his tendency to disappear for long periods of time will be less noticeable. I think he will also benefit from his relationship with Derrick White, which provides him a level of comfort in the locker room that he didn’t have at his last few stops. If he can occasionally come in and provide a few moments of scoring brilliance, then he’s got a role. But it won’t be more than spot duty.

Douglas: There is a place in the NBA for guys like Walker IV, who shoot over 38% from the field and have his athletic tools. I’m not so sure it’s in Boston. If he makes the team, he’d be an awesome depth piece. The NBA is loaded with young talent right now, and its left a lot of guys who haven’t found their footing immediately, like Walker IV, on the outside looking in. It would be pretty funny if TWO Spurs guards went on to have long careers in Boston after leaving San Antonio.

Gomez: Assuming Lonnie gets a spot in the final roster, which seems likely, it’s hard to see where he’d find playing time. Sam Hauser would have to disappoint to fall out of the rotation. Maybe he’d get some of Payton Pritchard’s minutes if one of White and Jrue Holiday are always on the court? Injuries happen, and Lonnie can get hot for stretches, so there is a chance he carves out a spot for himself, but there’s no guarantee. In a dumber, more forgiving age of the NBA, Walker’s youth and athleticism, along with the strong stretch he had late in his last season in San Antonio, would have resulted in a big gamble from some executive hoping he’d put it all together. In this era, Lonnie seems destined to play for the minimum or close to it for the rest of his career.

Which former Spur will have the better individual season, DeMar DeRozan or Derrick White?

Dubinski: From just a numbers standpoint, it’s DeRozan. He will always get his points at an All-Star level and could quite possibly be the Kings’ leading scorer (or maybe second after De’Aaron Fox). He should also be in a better situation there than Chicago (and even San Antonio), and they should make the playoffs. However, at the end of the season, White will likely be the happier player whose name we hear more often since the Celtics should go further in the playoffs — maybe even repeat as champions — while DeRozan’s ringless run will more than likely continue.

Barrington: You’re asking me to choose between two of my favorite former Spurs players and it’s an impossible task. I think both of them will have great seasons. It will be interesting to see how DeRozan will improve the Kings, where the backcourt paring of him and De’Aaron Fox seems ideal. Derrick White is more of a role player on the Celtics, but he’s crucial to their success, and they have a great chance of repeating this year.

Douglas: White pretty handily. Boston will continue to be the best team in the NBA, and he will be a big part of that. I am skeptical that Sacramento will take a crazy leap after swapping Harrison Barnes with DeRozan. I wonder how DeRozan will fare as the third fiddle behind Fox and Sabonis. I think he could thrive in their hand-off-heavy offense as someone capable of getting to his spots in the mid-range. I still prefer White’s defensive prowess and floor spacing in a high-powered Boston offense.

Gomez: It depends what we mean by better season. Derrick White’s role is completely different than DeRozan’s. In terms of numbers, DeMar has the edge because he’ll be one of the main options on offense, but White can score a few points and still have a massive impact on the game. I won’t dodge the question, so I’ll go with White. DeRozan will have to adjust to a new offense and might see his points and assists dip next to Fox and Sabonis, and opponents might hunt him on defense. Things are simpler for White, who probably won’t see his numbers improve but just needs to continue to do what he’s been doing so far in Boston to be one of the most valuable role players in the league.

By Jeje Gomez, Marilyn Dubinski, Mark Barrington, Jacob Douglas, via Pounding The Rock