■先声明,TP与MANU都是我很喜欢的球员,我不是哪个密或哪个黑,以下我的论述如果有误的话请大大们指正,但可别只是扣个xx黑,用情绪性字眼来遮掩一切论辩…
■赞一下TP07-08赛季的最后关头命中率大为提升,希望POP能考虑让TP承担更多责任与控球,看看效率会更高还是降低。
■可惜TP的跳投命中率07-08赛季下降了,否则如果前面能打的更沉稳,更高命中率的话,就无所谓关键时刻拉距血战的表现问题啰…
■最后关头除了看命中率外,是否应该还得把其它因素列入考虑呢?比如说罚球,这是最后关头拉距时常用的战术之一,所以,纯就投篮得分部分,MANU:TP是52:43.9(BY 48 MIN),而罚球部分MANU:TP是13/14:4/6,命中率与进球数都有极大差距喔,换算成48分钟MANU:TP是32.2:9.8,这两种得分方式应该都要考量吧。以上数据来自http://www.82games.com资料,不知道是到计算哪一场资料。
■还有,到底是做组织的掌控者,还是投篮的终结者呢,也是个重点。否则Oberto命中率最高,以后我们就让他在最后关头控制组织好啰。
■所以,如果TP的罚球能让POP更安心的话,应该会让他有更多机会在最后关头持球吧?!这里得同样要赞一下MANU的罚球能力,尤其是关键时刻,还记得这曾经是马刺最深的痛-关键时刻的罚球,后来MF4来之后,曾经是最稳定的罚球手,可这一年多来,MANU似乎取代了这个位置,而且表现也相当不错喔。
■所以,我认同tinysands大大所说的,数据不是万能的。我们需要更多客观的态度来看待全面的资料,思索怎样解释资料才能表现客观事实,而不是选择性地搜集资料来…。
■查了记录,
应该是一次吧,而且MANU一直在场上,可能tinysands大大记错了,也可能您是弄混了,对爵士才是两次漂亮的跳投。再赞一下TP07-08赛季的最后关头命中率。只是,还是前面那句话,如果前面能打的更沉稳,更高命中率的话,就不会整场打得那么扣人心弦啰。
■至于,
MANU关键时刻跳投比较囧,应该是吧,但套句老话,不管是黑猫,白猫,能抓到老鼠的,就是好猫。因为这关键时刻,MANU的最大能量释放,就是杀入禁区来个暴扣,撕裂敌人的防守,摧毁对手的意志,这是他的方式,当然别说他赚到的罚球能力,以及稳定的罚球能力,这还需要搞到压哨球/致胜球吗?别说在一些重要关键赛事里,对超音速,对活塞血战第7场,对爵士第4场等等不顾身体是否会受伤,是否会遭受怎样的粗暴对抗,仍然一而再地义无反顾杀入禁区的暴扣,就在前几天对小牛,最后1:20 88-97 SA Manu Ginobili made Mini Hook Shot,这是不是压哨球/致胜球呢?如果您认为TP对爵士最后59秒在 Deron 面前跳投得分算是压哨球/致胜球的话,是不是该平等看待MANU的辛苦表现来当作您的印象呢?更别说之后的关键罚球几乎还都是MANU仅仅的守护勒。
■所以,我认同tinysands大大所说的,印象是会骗人的,我们应更客观地查阅资料来说明事实,而不是让主观的喜爱印象去蒙蔽客观的实际状况。但有人记得05年对活塞,06年对小牛,第七场MANU接获TD传球投入的超前3分球吗?!当然,如果单就跳投的致胜球而言,可能MANU给人印象不多,因为那不是manu的风格,只是有人在统计压哨球/致胜球区分成是跳球还是暴扣的吗?!这有意义吗?!关键得分就是关键得分,管他跳投,上篮,罚球,都是关键得分。
■再赞一声TP的关键时刻表现。另外,tinysands大大,有一个疑问请教您,您应该是“TP的随从A”,怎会用‘Manu的随从A’命名勒?!好象有点挂羊头… :lol:
PS 以下是转贴自文字转播
Vs小牛
5:00 SA Defensive Rebound by Michael Finley
4:31 78-87 SA Bruce Bowen missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
4:27 SA Offensive Rebound by Michael Finley
4:21 DAL Personal foul on DeSagana Diop
4:15 78-89 SA Tony Parker made Jump Shot
3:56 DAL Personal foul on Dirk Nowitzki
3:56 78-89 DAL Dirk Nowitzki missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:56 79-89 DAL Dirk Nowitzki made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:39 79-89 SA Tony Parker missed Jump Shot
3:36 DAL Defensive Rebound by DeSagana Diop
3:21 SA Personal foul on Michael Finley
3:21 80-89 DAL DeSagana Diop made 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:21 81-89 DAL DeSagana Diop made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:04 SA Lost ball turnover on Bruce Bowen, Stolen by Jason Terry
2:57 84-89 DAL Dirk Nowitzki made 3-pt. Jump Shot, Assist Jason Terry
2:39 84-91 SA Manu Ginobili made Driving Layup
2:23 SA Shooting foul on Francisco Elson
2:23 TV Timeout
2:23 85-91 DAL Jason Terry made 1st of 2 Free Throws
2:23 86-91 DAL Jason Terry made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
2:10 86-94 SA Michael Finley made 3-pt. Jump Shot, Assist Tony Parker
1:55 86-94 DAL Dirk Nowitzki missed Jump Shot
1:46 DAL Loose ball foul on Josh Howard
1:52 86-94 SA Manu Ginobili missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
1:52 86-95 SA Manu Ginobili made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
1:39 88-95 DAL Jason Terry made Jump Shot
1:20 88-97 SA Manu Ginobili made Mini Hook Shot
1:02 SA Shooting foul on Bruce Bowen
1:02 89-97 DAL Jason Terry made 1st of 2 Free Throws
1:02 90-97 DAL Jason Terry made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
1:04 SA Lost ball turnover on Michael Finley, Stolen by Jason Terry
1:04 92-97 DAL Jason Terry made Layup
56.0 92-97 SA Tony Parker missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
56.0 DAL Defensive Rebound by Josh Howard
56.0 DAL Full Timeout
34.0 94-97 DAL Jason Terry made Layup
29.0 SA Shooting foul onFabricio Oberto
29.0 94-97 DAL Jason Terry missed Free Throw
29.0 SA Defensive Rebound by Manu Ginobili
7.0 94-97 SA Bruce Bowen missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
7.0 DAL Defensive Rebound by Josh Howard
7.0 DAL Full Timeout
2.0 94-97 DAL Jason Terry missed Jump Shot, Blocked by Francisco Elson
2.0 SA Full Timeout
1.0 94-97 DAL Dirk Nowitzki missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
Vs 爵士
5:00 86-91 SA Manu Ginobili missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
4:56 UTA Defensive Rebound by Carlos Boozer
4:34 86-91 UTA Mehmet Okur missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
4:30 SA Defensive Rebound byFabricio Oberto
4:22 86-91 SA Michael Finley missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
4:18 SA Offensive Rebound by Manu Ginobili
4:02 86-93 SA Tony Parker made Jump Shot
3:37 SA Shooting foul on Tony Parker
3:37 87-93 UTA Deron Williams made 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:37 87-93 UTA Deron Williams missed 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:37 SA Defensive Rebound by Manu Ginobili
3:22 UTA Personal foul on Deron Williams
3:22 87-93 SA Tony Parker missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:22 87-94 SA Tony Parker made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:05 UTA Lost ball turnover on Carlos Boozer
2:56 UTA Shooting foul on Deron Williams
2:56 TV Timeout
2:56 87-95 SA Tony Parker made 1st of 2 Free Throws
2:56 87-95 SA Tony Parker missed 2nd of 2 Free Throws
2:56 UTA Defensive Rebound by Andrei Kirilenko
2:45 87-95 UTA Carlos Boozer missed Layup, Blocked by Manu Ginobili
2:39 SA Defensive Rebound by Tony Parker
2:33 87-95 SA Michael Finley missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
2:30 UTA Defensive Rebound by Deron Williams
2:16 SA Shooting foul on Manu Ginobili
2:16 88-95 UTA Deron Williams made 1st of 2 Free Throws
2:16 89-95 UTA Deron Williams made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
2:02 89-97 SA Manu Ginobili made Driving Layup
1:51 SA Shooting foul onFabricio Oberto
1:51 90-97 UTA Deron Williams made 1st of 2 Free Throws
1:51 91-97 UTA Deron Williams made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
1:37 91-97 SA Matt Bonner missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
1:32 UTA Defensive Rebound by Andrei Kirilenko
1:20 SA Shooting foul onFabricio Oberto
1:20 92-97 UTA Carlos Boozer made 1st of 2 Free Throws
1:20 93-97 UTA Carlos Boozer made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
1:02 93-99 SA Tony Parker made Jump Shot
47.0 93-99 UTA Andrei Kirilenko missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
44.0 SA Loose ball foul on Matt Bonner
44.0 93-99 UTA Carlos Boozer missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
44.0 94-99 UTA Carlos Boozer made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
40.0 SA Full Timeout
31.0 UTA Personal foul on Ronnie Brewer
31.0 94-100 SA Manu Ginobili made 1st of 2 Free Throws
31.0 94-101 SA Manu Ginobili made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
24.0 SA Personal foul on Bruce Bowen
24.0 94-101 UTA Deron Williams missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
24.0 95-101 UTA Deron Williams made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
24.0 SA Full Timeout
23.0 UTA Personal foul on C.J. Miles
23.0 95-102 SA Michael Finley made 1st of 2 Free Throws
23.0 95-102 SA Michael Finley missed 2nd of 2 Free Throws
23.0 UTA Defensive Rebound by Carlos Boozer
23.0 UTA Full Timeout
21.0 98-102 UTA Deron Williams made 3-pt. Jump Shot
17.0 UTA Personal foul on Andrei Kirilenko
17.0 98-103 SA Manu Ginobili made 1st of 2 Free Throws
17.0 98-104 SA Manu Ginobili made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
17.0 UTA Full Timeout
15.0 UTA Offensive foul on Carlos Boozer
15.0 UTA Offensive Foul turnover on Carlos Boozer
14.0 UTA Personal foul on Carlos Boozer
14.0 98-105 SA Matt Bonner made 1st of 2 Free Throws
14.0 98-105 SA Matt Bonner missed 2nd of 2 Free Throws
14.0 98-105 UTA Deron Williams missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
11.0 UTA Offensive Rebound by Carlos Boozer
11.0 98-105 UTA Carlos Boozer missed Tip-in
11.0 SA Defensive Rebound by Manu Ginobili
5.0 UTA Personal foul on C.J. Miles
5.0 98-106 SA Manu Ginobili made 1st of 2 Free Throws
5.0 98-107 SA Manu Ginobili made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
5.0 UTA Full Timeout
2.0 98-107 UTA Mehmet Okur missed 3-pt. Jump Shot