# \[SAEN\] Mike Finger: 马刺与雷霆的恩怨局：唯一确定的是火药味更浓 **URL:** https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48931 **Category:** 环球刺讯 **Tags:** 2026-27赛季, 迪伦-哈珀, 达龙-福克斯, 斯蒂芬-卡斯尔 **Created:** [2026 年10 月 21 日 22:05 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48931 "2026-10-21T22:05:56Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Page:** 1
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By Mike Finger / San Antonio Express-News, 2026-10-21 15:49:43 ![Image](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/02/31375499/3/960x0.webp) _2026年10月20日，周二，在圣安东尼奥Frost Bank Center举行的NBA新赛季揭幕战上半场，俄克拉荷马雷霆前锋杰伦·威廉姆斯 (Jaylin Williams)（6号）与圣安东尼奥马刺后卫达龙·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox)（4号）发生纠缠。_ 维克托·文班亚马 (Victor Wembanyama) 感觉自己不在状态。 迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 觉得自己还没找到比赛节奏。 而达龙·福克斯——他至今仍记得童年时得知职业摔跤是演出来的那一天——比谁都清楚，周二在Frost Bank Center举行的马刺新赛季揭幕战上，眼前发生的一切未必都如表面所见。 “我觉得我没那么大力气，”福克斯谈到他第二节那次略显敷衍的过肩摔——正是那一摔让俄克拉荷马的切特·霍姆格伦 (Chet Holmgren) 狼狈倒地。“如果有人那样抓住你，你就那样摔在地板上，那你要担心的问题可就大了。” 所以，[雷霆这场116-104大胜马刺的粗野对决中，或许有些身体对抗缺乏“真实性”](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48922)。但至少，那份敌意是真实的。 一年前，这两支球队就互看不顺眼，而在此后的11个月里，他们交手了13次。如今，他们更加水火不容。 如果到明年五月底之前，他们还要再碰面10次呢？ 必将见血。是深仇大恨。而不仅仅是周二晚上凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 嘴巴内侧缝了三针的那种伤。 “基本上，每次碰上他们，这种火药味都会在，”马刺后卫斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 谈到这场可能才刚刚拉开序幕的宿敌之争的激烈程度时说道。 你不想对一场比赛过度解读，尤其是在双方还要打大约90场比赛、才会带着真正利害关系再度交锋的情况下。 你不想对雷霆比马刺多惦记了两周的这个日子过度解读。 你不想对现任NBA最有价值球员面对去年五月淘汰自己的“暴发户”时那副急于证明自己的样子过度解读。 你也不想对雷霆选中的那位身高7尺3、旨在成为“文班终结者”的新秀在开局阶段的表现超出所有人预期这件事过度解读。 很可能，无论新秀阿代·马拉 (Aday Mara) 是否护框，文班亚马这辈子都不会再打出13投1中的表现了。而且很可能，他终有一天会再次在与谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大 (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) 的对决中占据上风。 但你也不能完全无视定调之战的重要性，因为一年前就有人犯过这个错误。还记得去年12月初，马刺在拉斯维加斯的NBA杯半决赛中击败雷霆吗？ 那本来只是一场意外——直到它不再是意外。俄克拉荷马在那场失利中暴露的所有问题依然是问题，随后圣安东尼奥在常规赛又三次击败他们，接着在西部决赛中四次将其斩落马下。 这并不是说，仅仅因为雷霆这次赢下了揭幕战，2026-27赛季就会出现那样的反转。正如文班亚马很快指出的，双方其实都没什么变化。 “我是说，他们还是那支球队，我们也还是那支球队，”文班亚马说。 事实上，除了马拉——这位来自密歇根的大个子完成了一次令人印象深刻的大帽，封盖了文班亚马的扣篮尝试——场上每一名球员都熟悉得令人惊讶。 托拜厄斯·哈里斯 (Tobias Harris) 是马刺休赛期唯一一位预计将进入常规轮换的新援，因小腿酸痛尚未迎来首秀。也许等到这两支球队二月（或可能十二月）再度交手时，他会带来一些新变化，但这组对位的大格局不会改变。 雷霆会继续设法让文班亚马难受——周二晚上他们做到了，文班亚马赛后表示，出于“种种原因”，他“感觉不像（自己）”。 而马刺则会继续用卡斯尔、哈珀和福克斯的轮番冲击来折磨俄克拉荷马——这三人周二首次联袂首发，还在磨合这套新阵容的细节，这也在情理之中。 默契会来的。马刺的当家球星的更好状态也会来的——他承认周二自己一度陷入了自我纠结。 “我不需要做得更多，”文班亚马说，“我需要想得更少。” 不过，当恩怨缠身时，想太多总是一种危险，不是吗？[福克斯第二节把7尺1的霍姆格伦掀翻在地时，是不是想太多了？](https://chinaspurs.com/p/452025) 霍姆格伦周二多次在篮下遭遇顽强抵抗时——要知道去年季后赛他可是被马刺基本限制住了——是不是想太多了？ 我们是不是都在对一场十月份的比赛过度解读，尤其是在所有人都还没找到状态的时候？ 很可能是。 但至少现在，雷霆已经让自己有理由相信：他们最大的对手，是有软肋的。 除非马刺能证明，这个软肋根本不存在。 ![Oklahoma City Thunder forward Jaylin Williams (6) reacts after San Antonio Spurs guard De'Aaron Fox (4) fouled Oklahoma City Thunder center Chet Holmgren (7) during the first half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/02/31375506/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs forward Victor Wembanyama (1) and his teammates leave the court after a 116-104 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder in the NBA season opener Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375706/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) leaves the court after an interview following the Thunder’s 116-104 victory over the San Antonio Spurs in their first game of the season on Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375691/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder center Aday Mara (15) goes up for a shot over San Antonio Spurs center Tarris Reed Jr. (10) and San Antonio Spurs forward Maliq Brown (15) during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375676/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) blocks San Antonio Spurs guard Stephon Castle (5) at the rim during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375705/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) reacts after San Antonio Spurs guard De’Aaron Fox (4) knocks the ball from his hands during the second half of an NBA basketball game Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375701/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) shoots over San Antonio Spurs forward Victor Wembanyama (1) during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375677/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs forward Keldon Johnson (3) fouls Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375700/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs guard Dylan Harper (2) goes up for a shot over Oklahoma City Thunder guard Cason Wallace (22) during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375704/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs center Luke Kornet (7) and guard Devin Vassell (24) battle Oklahoma City Thunder center Isaiah Hartenstein (55) for a rebound during the second half of an NBA basketball game Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375699/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder guard Jalen Williams (8) goes up for a shot over San Antonio Spurs center Luke Kornet (7) during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375673/3/960x0.webp) ![Oklahoma City Thunder guard Jared McCain (3) reacts after making a 3-pointer during the second half of an NBA basketball game against the San Antonio Spurs on Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375697/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs guard Dylan Harper (2) points towards Oklahoma City Thunder guard Jared McCain (3) during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375703/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs center Luke Kornet (7) fouls Oklahoma City Thunder center Chet Holmgren (7) as Holmgren shoots during the second half of an NBA basketball game Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375672/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs center Luke Kornet (7) fouls Oklahoma City Thunder center Chet Holmgren (7) as Holmgren shoots during the second half of an NBA basketball game Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/05/31375698/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs forward Victor Wembanyama (1) attempts to block a shot by Oklahoma City Thunder guard Jalen Williams (8) during the second half of an NBA basketball game Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375675/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs guard Stephon Castle (5) fouls Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) under the net during the second half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026. The Spurs fell to the Thunder 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375671/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs forward Victor Wembanyama (1) reaches for a rebound during the second half of an NBA basketball game against the Oklahoma City Thunder on Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026, in San Antonio. The Thunder won 116-104.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/04/31375670/3/960x0.webp) ![San Antonio Spurs center Luke Kornet (7) dunks during the first half of the NBA season opener against the Oklahoma City Thunder at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/02/31375500/3/960x0.webp) _由生成式 AI 翻译，翻译内容可能不准确或不完整，以原文为准。_ > **查看原文：Why the only certainty in Spurs-Thunder rivalry is more bad blood** > > ## Why the only certainty in Spurs-Thunder rivalry is more bad blood > > ![Image](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/67/54/02/31375499/3/960x0.webp) > _Oklahoma City Thunder forward Jaylin Williams (6) and San Antonio Spurs guard De’Aaron Fox (4) tussle during the first half of the NBA season opener at Frost Bank Center in San Antonio, Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2026._ > > Victor Wembanyama didn’t feel like himself. > > Dylan Harper didn’t feel like he had his legs under him yet. > > And De’Aaron Fox, who still remembers the formative day of his childhood when he learned pro wrestling is scripted, knew better than to believe everything happening in the Spurs’ season opener at Frost Bank Center on Tuesday was exactly as it appeared. > > “I don’t think I’m that strong,” Fox said about his halfhearted second-quarter suplex that sent Oklahoma City’s Chet Holmgren tumbling. “If somebody grabs you like that and you’re flying on the floor like that, you’ve got other problems to worry about.” > > So maybe some of the body blows in the [Thunder’s rough-and-tumble 116-104 romp over the Spurs lacked authenticity](https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/3-takeaways-spurs-thunder-season-opener-score-22484594.php). But at least the disdain was real. > > These two teams didn’t like each other a year ago, before they went on to play 13 times in 11 months. They like each other even less now. > > And if they meet 10 more times by the end of next May? > > There will be blood. Bad blood. And not just the kind that necessitated three stitches on the inside of Keldon Johnson’s mouth Tuesday night. > > “That’ll be there pretty much every time we see them, for the most part,” Spurs guard Stephon Castle said about the intensity of a rivalry that might just be getting started. > > You don’t want to make too much of one game, especially when there are about 90 more to play before these teams face each other with something important on the line. > > You don’t want to make too much of a date the Thunder had circled for two weeks longer than the Spurs did. > > You don’t want to make too much of the way the reigning NBA Most Valuable Player looked like he had something to prove against the upstarts that eliminated him last May. > > And you don’t want to make too much of the way the 7-foot-3 kid the Thunder drafted to be a Wemby stopper got off to an even better start on that front than anyone could’ve expected. > > Chances are, Wembanyama isn’t going to shoot 1-for-13 again in his lifetime, whether rookie Aday Mara is protecting the rim or not. And chances are, he’ll get the better of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander again someday, too. > > But you also don’t want to completely dismiss the importance of a tone-setter, because that’s the mistake some made a year ago. Remember early last December, when the Spurs beat the Thunder in the NBA Cup semifinals in Las Vegas? > > That was just a fluke, until it wasn’t. All of the problems Oklahoma City had in that loss remained problems while San Antonio beat them three more times in the regular season, and then four times in the Western Conference finals. > > This isn’t to say we’re in for a reversal of that in 2026-‘27 just because the Thunder won the opener this time. As Wembanyama was quick to point out, it’s not like either side changed much. > > “I mean, they’re the same team, (and) we’re the same team,” Wembanyama said. > > In fact, aside from Mara — the giant from Michigan who pulled off a notable block of a Wembanyama dunk attempt — it was striking how familiar every player on the floor looked. > > Tobias Harris, the lone offseason addition expected to be part of the Spurs’ regular rotation, wasn’t ready to make his debut because of a sore calf. Maybe he’ll add a new wrinkle when these teams play again in February (or possibly December), but the gist of the matchup will remain the same. > > The Thunder will try to make Wembanyama uncomfortable, which they did Tuesday on a night when he said he “did not feel like (him)self,” for “a bunch of reasons.” > > And the Spurs will try to inflict Oklahoma City misery with a relentless barrage of Castle and Harper and Fox, who started together for the first time Tuesday and were understandably trying to get a feel for the intricacies of the new deployment. > > That feel will come. So will a better approach for the Spurs’ franchise superstar, who conceded he lost himself at times in his own head Tuesday. > > “I don’t need to do more,” Wembanyama said. “I need to think less.” > > When there’s bad blood, overthinking things is always a danger, though, isn’t it? [Was Fox overthinking things when he flipped the 7-foot-1 Holmgren onto the floor in the second quarter?](https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/spurs-de-aaron-fox-questions-fall-thunder-s-chet-22486755.php) Was Holmgren overthinking things on the multiple occasions when he met resistance at the rim again Tuesday, after being mostly neutralized by the Spurs in the playoffs last year? > > Are we all overthinking what a game in October might mean, especially when nobody quite feels like themselves yet? > > Probably. > > But for now, the Thunder have given themselves reason to believe their biggest rival is vulnerable. > > Until the Spurs can prove that vulnerability wasn’t real after all. By Mike Finger / [San Antonio Express-News](https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/certainty-spurs-thunder-rivalry-bad-blood-22486499.php)