# \[The Athletic\] 文班亚马在惨败雷霆后直言：“这不是我喜欢的篮球” ▶️
**URL:** https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48924
**Category:** 环球刺讯
**Tags:** 2026-27赛季, 米奇-约翰逊, 迪伦-哈珀, 达龙-福克斯, 维克托-文班亚马, 斯蒂芬-卡斯尔
**Created:** [2026 年10 月 21 日 11:04 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48924 "2026-10-21T11:04:59Z")
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### 作者：  [@TheAthletic](https://chinaspurs.com/u/TheAthletic)
#### 发布日期： [2026 年10 月 21 日 11:04 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48924/1 "2026-10-21T11:04:59Z")
By Jared Weiss / The Athletic, 2026-10-21 17:30:08
圣安东尼奥——这实在毫无乐趣可言。
想要剖析维克托·文班亚马 (Victor Wembanyama) 为何会在揭幕战打出生涯最糟糕的投篮表现——仅仅13投1中，绝非三言两语能够说清。圣安东尼奥马刺在周二以104-116不敌俄克拉荷马城雷霆的原因有很多，这个比分甚至带有欺骗性，让人误以为马刺与雷霆尚有一战之力。
无论是抽丝剥茧分析他们新三后卫首发阵容的空间瑕疵，还是审视防守纪律性，马刺那一连串令人担忧的问题最终都归结于一个无法回避的核心。
“我觉得这对我来说显而易见。我需要回归去打我喜欢的篮球。现在的样子根本不是我喜欢的运动，”文班亚马说，“我没有理由犹豫不决，没有理由不去做自己。对我来说，事情就这么简单。只有享受比赛，我才能发挥出色。”
文班亚马在对阵雷霆的比赛中表现糟糕。他持球时犹豫不决，无球跑位时又频繁挡道。决策迟缓且杂乱无章，大空位三分球一次次弹框而出。以他的标准来看，防守端的敏锐度只能算勉强及格，毫无感染力。
这正是球队作茧自缚的症结所在：至少目前来看，这套全新的首发阵容毫无效果。
这并不令人震惊。马刺在季前赛虽偶有亮眼发挥，但看起来离成型还差得远。随后他们在揭幕战迎战这个时代最好的防守强队，结果场面极其惨淡。
“不管我们派上多少名后卫，他们今晚都打得很挣扎，”主教练米奇·约翰逊 (Mitch Johnson) 说道，“我们全队上下都表现得全方位低迷。”
马刺主动承担起了一项雄心勃勃的挑战：改变一套曾将他们带入总决赛的阵容。他们着眼的是更加长远的蓝图。
迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 实力过于出众，断然不能屈居替补。他们需要最大化他的出场时间，以增加击败雷霆这支劲旅的胜算。将他与斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 和达龙·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox) 共同排进首发，就把拉开萎缩空间的重担全压在了文班亚马一人肩上。
他们主要依靠将防守压力转化为快攻反击速度，这种打法在本场比赛中屡试不爽。然而，当他们不得不一次又一次从篮网里捡球，目送谢伊·吉尔杰斯-亚历山大 (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) 命中中距离跳投时，根本就没有任何快攻机会可言。
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他们的进攻运转存在一个根本性缺陷：文班亚马缺乏足够的投篮手感，无法让雷霆为收缩禁区付出代价。而这一软肋，恰恰被最了解他们的对手彻底暴露。
“我可能想得太多了，我觉得这对我来说是个机会，我真正该做的是放开包袱，”文班亚马说道，“我不需要做得更多，或许只需要少想一点。”
文班亚马在这个依赖“空中交通管制”的体系中显得格格不入。雷霆的防线在卡斯尔大部分无球时间内几乎完全放空他，甚至在他接球时也不会扑防。马刺球员要么互相挡道，要么一头扎进死胡同。
马刺与雷霆之间突然演变成了NBA最引人入胜的宿敌对决之一，就像两把飞速挥舞的重锤，彼此撕扯、碰撞和砸击。无论是福克斯对切特·霍姆格伦 (Chet Holmgren) 使出摔角般的抱摔，还是凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 面部遭受重击、颊骨被划开一道深达缝了三针的血口，这两队的交锋向来充斥着火药味与血性。
这两支球队对彼此的熟悉程度在整个联盟都属罕见。上赛季他们交手了整整12次。这绝非笔误，两队仿佛针对彼此打了一个微型赛季。他们对对手的每一个战术细节和习惯了如指掌。
马刺现在的问题在于他们还没真正看清自己。他们必须重新认识自我，重新摸索运转模式。他们是一支依靠防守和速度的球队，但当比赛节奏慢下来时，他们该如何发起进攻？如果文班亚马拿不到禁区深处的球，他又该以何种方式作为终结点发挥作用？
“我想说，我们目前的表现还不足以弄清这一切、弄清这个体系。在下定论之前，我们首先得打得正常，恢复到平时的状态，”文班亚马说，“至于哪一部分不正常？我觉得方方面面都不正常，每一处都出了点差错。”
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上赛季他们慢慢找到了这些问题的答案。而这一次他们必须更快交出答卷，因为全联盟的对手都在紧盯着他们，绝不仅是眼前的宿敌。
“每次面对他们，都会是这种强度，”卡斯尔说道。
雷霆永远都会是检验他们的试金石。上赛季，马刺曾在12月的一段时间内完全压制雷霆，但为了挺进总决赛，最终依然不得不在俄克拉荷马城抢七，力克伤兵满营的雷霆。那是上赛季最终磨合成型的马刺版本。而现在，一切又是一次全新的推倒重来。马刺着眼于未来重塑自我，因为他们深知，自己绝不会停下脚步，雷霆同样不会。
“无论你在院子里种花还是植树，不是每天看过去都能看到成果，”约翰逊在赛前表示，“大家只需要给我们一点时间。”
“我可以向你们保证，”哈珀说道，“这套阵容未来一定会迎来更好的日子。”
_由生成式 AI 翻译，译文内容可能不准确或不完整，以原文为准。_
> **查看原文：Victor Wembanyama says 'this is not the sport I like' after rough loss to Thunder**
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> ## Victor Wembanyama says ‘this is not the sport I like’ after rough loss to Thunder
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> SAN ANTONIO — This simply wasn’t fun.
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> It’s a layered endeavor trying to diagnose how Victor Wembanyama had the worst shooting performance of his career, going 1-of-13 on opening night. There are many reasons why the San Antonio Spurs fell to the Oklahoma City Thunder 116-104 on Tuesday, a score that deceptively implies the Spurs were even remotely on the Thunder’s level.
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> Parsing through the spacing foibles of their new three-guard starting lineup, or their defensive discipline, the laundry list of concerns for the Spurs boils down to one unavoidable thing.
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> “I feel like it’s obvious for me. I need to go back to playing the basketball I like. This is not the sport I like right here,” Wembanyama said. “I got no reason to be hesitant, no reason to not be myself. For me, it’s as simple as that. I’m good when I have fun.”
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> Wembanyama was awful against the Thunder. He was uncertain on the ball and often in the way off it. Decisions were slow and haphazard. Wide-open 3s merely provided the rim a deep-tissue massage. Defensive acuity was passable by his standards, though not inspiring.
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> It was the root of the problem the team has brought onto itself: The new starting lineup doesn’t work, for now.
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> That’s not a shock. The Spurs had their moments in the preseason but looked like they were far from a finished product. Then they came out on opening night against the best defense of this era and looked dreadful.
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> “However many guards we played, they all struggled tonight,” coach Mitch Johnson said. “It was a pretty well-rounded poor effort by all of us.”
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> The Spurs have taken on the ambitious challenge of changing a lineup that brought them to the NBA Finals. They are looking at the big picture.
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> Dylan Harper is too good to come off the bench. They need to maximize his minutes to maximize their chances of beating this Thunder stalwart. Pairing him with Stephon Castle and De’Aaron Fox puts the onus on Wembanyama to figure out how to re-expand a shrunken floor.
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> They do that mostly through defensive pressure that turns into offensive speed. It worked plenty of times in this game. But when they are taking the ball out of the net after another Shai Gilgeous-Alexander mid-range jumper, there’s not a lot of fast to be breaking.
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> There was a fundamental flaw in how they operated: Wembanyama didn’t have the touch to make the Thunder pay for packing the paint. This discrepancy was exposed by the team that knows them best.
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> “I might be overthinking it, and I feel like it’s a chance for me that what I have to do is really let go,” Wembanyama said. “I don’t need to do more. I need to think less, probably.”
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> Wembanyama was in the way of a system that relies on air traffic control. The Thunder defense simply did not guard Castle for much of his time off the ball, not even rushing out when he’d catch it. The Spurs were running into each other or finding dead ends.
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> The Spurs and Thunder have suddenly turned into one of the NBA’s most enticing rivalries, two speedy bludgeons that carve, clash and smash. Whether it’s Fox suplexing Chet Holmgren or Keldon Johnson taking a shot to the face that carved a hole in his cheek deep enough to require three stitches, this series has always been a bit bloody.
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> These teams know each other intimately in a way that rarely exists in the NBA. They faced off 12 times last season. That’s not a typo. These two teams had their own mini-season against each other. They know every little nook and cranny of their opponent.
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> The Spurs’ problem right now is that they don’t quite know themselves yet. They have to relearn who they are and how they operate. They are a defense and speed team, but how do they get into offense when things slow down? What does Wembanyama offer as a finisher if he doesn’t have the ball in the paint?
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> “I would say we haven’t been good enough to find that out, to find out about this. We need to start by playing normal, being our normal selves before we can jump to conclusions,” Wembanyama said. “What part of it wasn’t normal? I think everything. A little bit of everything.”
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> They slowly answered those questions last season. They will need to answer them quicker this time around, because everyone in the league is coming for them. Not just their rivals.
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> “That will be there every time we see them,” Castle said.
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> The Thunder will always be their litmus test. Last year, the Spurs owned OKC over a stretch in December, then still had to go win Game 7 in Oklahoma City against an injured Thunder squad to make the finals. That was the fully formed version of last year’s Spurs. This is a new one, once again. The Spurs are reinventing themselves with an eye toward the future, knowing that they aren’t going away and neither are the Thunder.
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> “Whether you grow flowers or plant things in the yard to look at every day, there’s not (always) much to look at,” Johnson said before the game. “You just need to give us some time.”
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> “I can tell you,” Harper said. “There’s gonna be better days to come with that lineup.”
By Jared Weiss / [The Athletic](https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7709892/2026/10/21/wembanyama-spurs-lose-okc/)
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### 作者：  [@TheAthletic](https://chinaspurs.com/u/TheAthletic)
#### 发布日期： [2026 年10 月 21 日 13:22 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/48924/2 "2026-10-21T13:22:02Z")
## 💬热评
> [@Marcus G.](#):
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> 文班全场13投仅1中拿下12分，除了2分之外全靠罚球（12罚10中）。想象一下，要是雷霆输了且亚历山大打出这数据，网上的评论和舆论风向得成什么样。
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> > [@Geraud G.](#):
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> > @Marcus G. 区别在于，文班在篮下那是真真切切挨打，而亚历山大跳投时往旁边一歪、身体胡乱一扭，哪怕只是被蹭破点皮就能吹犯规。
> [@Ben S.](#):
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> 等等，文班不仅在关键场面里拉了胯，赛后还整出这么一句逆天发言？
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> > [@Mark S.](#):
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> > @Ben S. 很明显，事情不顺心时他就是输不起。我还以为会有人提醒他，这么输不起的样子有多难看呢。
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> > [@Jim C.](#):
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> > @Mark S. 你能从他的话里解读出这意思也是奇葩。可能输不起的是你吧。
> [@David A.](#):
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> 1. 我之前问霍林格，雷霆会不会每场用阿代·马拉 (Aday Mara) 顶防文班亚马5到10分钟。昨晚我们得到答案了。马拉跟文班根本不是一个级别的球员，但他确实给文班制造了麻烦，也丰富了雷霆的打法。
> 2. 文班会找回状态的。
> 3. 贾里德·麦凯恩 (Jared McCain) 的三分出手速度仅次于库里。麦凯恩没有库里的其他技能包，但他完全能填补以赛亚·乔去底特律给雷霆带来的损失。
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> > [@Danny B.](#):
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> > 马拉目前火候还不够，但想象一下，等他积累了一整个赛季的防守经验后该有多强。
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> > [@Hello Y.](#):
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> > @David A. 麦凯恩仅次于库里？？投篮方面？你到底在胡扯什么，联盟里投射比他强的人一抓一大把。你们真是魔怔了。
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> > [@D K.](#):
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> > @Hello Y. 人家说的是出手动作和出手速度，只是在夸麦凯恩的投篮姿势纯粹又好看。
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> > [@Confirmation\_Bias ..](#):
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> > 讲句公道话，他说的是出手速度排第二，没说“投篮能力”。
> [@Jeffrey G.](#):
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> 大家忘性可真大。波波维奇——史上最佳教练——和马刺当年靠着让马努打第六人打出了一片天。现在为哈珀打替补有什么好焦虑纠结的？？搞得好像米奇·约翰逊平时看了太多不懂装懂的体育名嘴瞎编话题水时长一样。
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> > [@David H.](#):
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> > @Jeffrey G. “波波维奇，史上最佳……”
> > 不管你指的是哪方面的史上最佳，都差了十万八千里。圣安东尼奥马刺队史上就从来没出过任何领域里的“史上最佳”。
> > 大家之所以为哈珀替补感到焦虑，是因为所有人都清楚他绝不可能甘心打替补，福克斯也不可能接受，而马刺想交易福克斯还不至于亏到底裤都不剩的唯一办法就是让他打首发，因为没人会给一个替补开出2.2亿美元的合同。甚至根本没人愿意给打首发的福克斯开2.2亿，但死结就在这里。
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> > [@Hello Y.](#):
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> > @David H. ？？？纯纯的引战钓鱼。蒂姆·邓肯听了想和你聊聊。
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> > [@Vicente B.](#):
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> > @Hello Y. 没错，这就是“断章取义带师”大卫·H在明目张胆地钓鱼。别看他数据一套一套的，他居然能把马刺的5座NBA总冠军归结为其他球队“赢腻了”。
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> > [@David H.](#):
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> > @Hello Y. “蒂姆·邓肯听了想和你聊聊”
> > 聊什么，聊他多被高估吗？邓肯整个职业生涯里，连续两个赛季打进分区决赛的次数只有可怜的3次；在他巅峰期，身边坐拥状元和探花队友，却眼睁睁看着另一支球队完成三连冠。他作为队长带领美国队在奥运会上遭遇了史诗级溃败，成了篮球史上极少数以美国男篮队长身份在奥运会上输掉正式比赛的球员。
> > 我当然还能列举更多，理由简直有一百万条，但邓肯的水准根本远远达不到你们臆想的高度。
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> > [@Mike J.](#):
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> > @David H. 没错，肖恩·埃利奥特、迈克尔·乔丹，多么经典的“探花秀”啊！
> > 更别提邓肯在罗宾逊和埃利奥特\*都不在\*的情况下还拿了3个总冠军。你可真够虚伪的。
> > 才……分区决赛……连续赛季……3次。笑死。就这？！
> > 再说了，谁特么在乎是不是“连续”啊？间隔开拿下的5个冠军，难道就比科比式的一个三连冠加一个两连冠含金量低了？额……凭什么啊？
> > 撇开这些不谈，评论写得挺逗！
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> > [@Jim C.](#):
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> > @David H. 行了，你已经充分证明了自己对篮球和NBA一无所知，赶紧收手吧。你根本没有自己想象的那么聪明。
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> > [@Mike J.](#):
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> > @Jim C. 没有“顶尖”队友，任谁也拿不到任何冠军。邓肯没有罗宾逊或者帕克&吉诺比利（后来还有莱昂纳德）就夺不了冠，乔丹没有皮蓬赢不了，魔术师没有贾巴尔和后来的沃西赢不了，大梦没有德雷克斯勒赢不了，伯德没有帕里什和麦克海尔也赢不了。
> > 客观来说，你可以说奥尼尔是湖人三连冠时期的头号球星，但大加索尔绝对是后来夺冠队伍里的二当家。
> > 听着，我作为一个湖人球迷都在这里给予邓肯应有的尊重——我当年可绝对\*恨透\*了那支马刺！但你必须得脱帽致敬，除非你是像大卫这种为了杠而杠的蠢货（我敢打包票这家伙现实里绝对是个律师）。而且科比当年也是强得不可思议。
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> > [@Seth H.](#):
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> > @David H. 兄弟。随手Google一下就知道，历史上总共只有26个人拿过5次或更多总冠军。这根本不是你嘴里轻描淡写的“挺多的”。而且，根本没有任何球队会在某一年觉得自己“赢腻了”，或者心甘情愿把总冠军拱手相让。你这个观点实在太荒唐了，荒唐到别人根本没办法用你能听懂的逻辑来反驳。也许这就是所谓的“别跟傻子较劲”吧。
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> > [@Maxx P.](#):
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> > @David H. “很高兴你这么问。因为圣安东尼奥马刺只有在那些强得多的队伍赢腻了解体之后，才能捡到冠军。”
> > 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈！
> > 这家伙嘴里永远吐不出半点象牙。
> > 笑死我了哈哈哈哈！
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> > [@Maxx P.](#):
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> > @David H.
> > “依我看，蒂姆·邓肯就是史上最佳大前锋。”——查尔斯·巴克利
> > “史上最伟大的大前锋。”——沙奎尔·奥尼尔
> > “他是史上最好的大前锋，没有之一。”——德克·诺维茨基
> > “实际上，他完全算得上是‘史上被高估得最严重’的候选人之一。”——大卫·H
> [@Jack C.](#):
>
> 三后卫阵容行不通的。他们必须把福克斯或者哈珀撤到替补席。这支球队的核心位置根本不是控卫，而是侧翼。他们必须最大限度地给卡斯尔、瓦塞尔、尚帕尼和约翰逊出场时间。至于场上控卫到底是谁并不重要。他们两个都是极其优秀的球员，我敢打赌马刺迟早能理顺这个问题。
> [@Chris K.](#):
>
> 13投1中 😂
>
> > [@StatisticsAddic T.](#):
> >
> > @Chris K. 更离谱的是，铁成这样他的正负值居然只有-2。
> [@Devin T.](#):
>
> 这似乎印证了文班就是个社交媒体时代成长起来的球星：打出一场极其低迷的比赛后，他的赛后点评居然是“这不是我喜欢的篮球”，而不是反思“我哪些地方需要做得更好”……
> 我知道他上赛季就被捧成了联盟现役第一人，但就竞争心智而言，我对这家伙打个大大的问号。
> 看起来他现在对自己满意得很呢。
> [@Grant B.](#):
>
> 这赛季看着全美球迷集体倒戈狂喷马刺，那场面一定很美妙。
> 这支球队现在真是让人喜欢不起来。而且作为联盟力捧的新门面，文班抱怨得未免也太多了。
> 没有了吕冈茨·多尔特 (Luguentz Dort) 这个专职防守悍将当遮羞布，中立球迷看雷霆打球那才叫赏心悦目。亚历山大打得完全配得上连庄MVP的身价。
>
> > [@Allen M.](#):
> >
> > @Grant B. 你在扯什么淡？全联盟最招人烦的球队明明是雷霆。
> > 全队上下假摔成瘾。我甚至都不想劝他们别摔了，因为这招确实管用。如今的NBA都快变成假摔联盟了，有时候简直让人看不下去。有些吹出来的犯规，真的就是碰了一下脚趾头而已。
> > 我还会继续看，因为我是球迷，但这比赛有时候看着真让人血压飙升。
> [@Black Karin](#):
>
> 2米24的身高，13投1中？？笑死爹了！！这黑哥们就是个被高估的软蛋二踢脚！！丢人现眼！！！
> [@jacob K.](#):
>
> 这篇文章完全是荒谬的结果论。这场比赛的分水岭无非就是文班投丢了平时稳进的球，而麦凯恩投进了平时进不了的神仙球。两队其实实力相当，一如既往。
> [@Nick P.](#):
>
> 我们总是在犯同一个错误：根据球员的位置去相对评判他的技术，一旦看到他在同位置里相对出众，就臆想他踏上了某种超级巨星的轨道。文班的技术确实惊艳……但那也是“对于一个这种身高的中锋而言”。他从来都不是场上的凯里·欧文，他也变不成沙克，所以他总是免不了被对手推挤对抗。因此，除非他开发出天勾，否则他在攻防两端都不能算作真正的“超级得分手”。我们别再对他抱有这种非分之想了，马刺球迷只要庆幸他没变成戈贝尔就该烧高香了。
> 切特也是个绝佳的例子，所有人都在拼命想把他捧成巨星……凭什么啊？就因为他的技术非常出色……“对于一个中锋而言”？可中锋甚至根本就不是他打的位置啊！他只是身高“接近”中锋，于是我们就进入了“如果……会怎样”的幻想模式，臆想他去打那个他“应该”打的位置，强行把他塑造成一个他根本不是的模样，而现实中毫无理由相信他真能变成那样。球员确实能打磨技术，但在NBA里半路开发出货真价实的超级巨星级别技能包，这几乎前所未见。
>
> > [@jacob K.](#):
> >
> > @Nick P. 得了吧，文班根本不是你说的那回事。他很可能是这项运动有史以来最强防守者，同时进攻端也是个极佳的终结手。他的防守就像大谷翔平的打击，而他的进攻则是大谷翔平的投球。
> [@Anonymous U.](#):
>
> 这家伙在关键时刻惯例拉胯……被严重高估了。（而且球品和输赢风度极差。）
> [@David H.](#):
>
> “这根本不是我喜欢的运动……”
> 哎呀不好，文班亚马这是要跟本·西蒙斯 (Ben Simmons) 组队深海海钓去了吗？！我敢打赌约基奇这会儿正给他发短信，疯狂安利骑马有多好玩呢。
> [@Aaron G.](#):
>
> 他这辈子都不可能再投出13中1了。翻篇吧，往前看。如果非要因为一场比赛就大惊小怪的话，真正该让人操心的是卡斯尔。
> [@George C.](#):
>
> 马刺昨晚暴露的问题，跟总决赛打尼克斯时一模一样：达龙·福克斯，以及各支球队已经彻底研究透了如何防守文班并在他身边得分。马刺进攻时就死掐文班给他上对抗，防守时坚决不硬冲文班镇守的内线。福克斯投篮打铁加上防不住高大后卫，直接丢了总冠军。
>
> > [@David H.](#):
> >
> > @George C. 乔治，事情甚至比这还要简单。圣安东尼奥马刺手里根本就没有足够——甚至可以说毫无——靠谱的得分手或射手。任何稍微聪明点的球队都会放他们在外线投，赌他们投不进足够的球来赢下比赛。过去的历史已经证明，他们根本没办法稳定把那些球投进。
> > 上赛季马刺全队三分命中率在联盟平均线之上的只有巴恩斯、瓦塞尔和尚帕尼三个人，而且没一个命中率能达到39%。所以对手巴不得马刺换上这些人随便投。他们可能会靠手感偷走几场胜利，但对防守方来说，放他们投外线显然是代价最小的防守策略。
> > 俄克拉荷马城雷霆昨晚的防守甚至都没算做到极致聪明。有好几个回合文班在距离篮筐22英尺以外接球，雷霆防守球员居然还贴上去防——简直是在请他顺势往里打。这完全没意义。就放他在那儿投得了。正如他昨晚以及职业生涯至今所证明的那样，他根本投不进那么多球来击败你。他一心想当全世界最高的得分后卫，对手应该举双手赞成他沉溺在这种幻想里。对手最不该做的就是拉出来紧逼他，那样反而给了他突破的机会，而一旦突破他就很容易造犯规——因为NBA还指望着在欧洲狂捞数千亿美元的潜在商业利润呢，他们必须捧着文班这块敲门砖。
> [@balesrod](#):
>
> 文班亚马前12投0中，但马刺一度落后26分居然还能追到只差7分。马刺三分死活投不进，而雷霆怎么投怎么有。不过才一场比赛而已。
> 文班每次在外线拔葱投三分，我都看得提心吊胆。
> 我实在搞不懂他为什么老躲着禁区走。
> 他在三分线外晃荡的样子，整得跟个百步穿杨的顶级神射手似的。
> 我还以为文班亚马这个休赛期能开发出个招牌进攻杀招呢。比如天勾！他的常规杀招绝对不该是三分跳投。可现实偏偏就是三分。我只能祈祷他以后命中率能高一点了。
>
> > [@Mark S.](#):
> >
> > @balesrod 你可真会找角度丧事喜办，“他们一度只落后7分”都能成为吹点？行吧，你开心就好！
> [@Lucas M.](#):
>
> 去他的吧，把文班按在板凳上，直接上五后卫！我们选秀大会刚选了个能抢板能肉搏的大个子。你们觉得福克斯能顶得住切特，那就等切特面对里德抢板试试看吧。马刺现在迫切需要找出一个管用的四号位。这个人必须得是托拜厄斯·哈里斯，摆四后卫绝对是死路一条。要我说，这场球就怪米奇瞎胡搞乱试验阵容。在彻底敲定轮换名单之前，我们免不了还要再吃几场这种一团乱麻的窝囊败仗。
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>
> > [@Marcus G.](#):
> >
> > Wemby finished with 12 points on 1/13 shooting with all his points except 2 coming from free throws (10/12). Imagine the comments and narratives if OKC lost and that was Shai’s statline
> >
> > > [@Geraud G.](#):
> > >
> > > @Marcus G. the difference being that wemby gets absolutely hacked at the rim and SGA gets slightly grazed while jumping sideways on a jumpshot and flailing his body around
>
> > [@Ben S.](#):
> >
> > Wait, Wemby managed to struggle in a big spot and then come up with a rough soundbite?
> >
> > > [@Mark S.](#):
> > >
> > > @Ben S. It’s clear he’s a poor sport when things don’t go his way. I’d think someone would mention to him how bad he looks when he can’t take a loss.
> >
> > > [@Jim C.](#):
> > >
> > > @Mark S. Odd that you’d get that from what he said. Perhaps it’s you.
>
> > [@David A.](#):
> >
> > 1. I asked Hollinger if OKC would use Mara to go up against Wembenyama 5-10 minutes a game. We got the answer last night. Mara is not anywhere near at Wemby’s level, but he complicates the picture for Wemby and adds another facet to OKC’s game.
> > 2. Wemby will get his game back.
> > 3. McCain’s release on the 3 is second only to Curry. McCain doesn’t have the rest of Curry’s game, but he more than fills in for what OKC lost with Isaiah Joe leaving for Detroit.
> >
> > > [@Danny B.](#):
> > >
> > > Mara isn’t there yet, but imagine how much better he’ll be with a seasons worth of defense under his belt
> >
> > > [@Hello Y.](#):
> > >
> > > @David A. McCain is second to only Curry?? In shooting? wtf you talking about, there are so many other guys in the league that shoot better. Yall are delusional
> >
> > > [@D K.](#):
> > >
> > > @Hello Y. He said his release, just talking about how pure and beautiful McCains shooting form is
> >
> > > [@Confirmation\_Bias ..](#):
> > >
> > > To be fair, he said his release is second. Not “in shooting”
>
> > [@Jeffrey G.](#):
> >
> > How quickly we forget. Pop, the GOAT, and the Spurs made a great living bringing Manu off the bench. Why is there all of this hand-wringing over Harper coming off the bench?? It’s like Mitch has been watching too many clueless sports pundits making up shit to talk about in order to fill air time.
> >
> > > [@David H.](#):
> > >
> > > @Jeffrey G. “Pop, the GOAT…”
> > > Whichever way you meant that, it’s nowhere close to accurate. No one who is the greatest at anything has ever been involved with the San Antonio organization.
> > > The hand-wringing over Harper coming off the bench is due to the realization that he will not tolerate a reserve role, and neither will Fox, and their only chance to trade Fox without losing their rear-ends is to start him, because no one is paying a bench player $220M. No one even wants to pay Fox $220M to start, but therein lies the problem.
> >
> > > [@Hello Y.](#):
> > >
> > > @David H. ??? Obvious trolling. Tim Duncan would like a word
> >
> > > [@Vicente B.](#):
> > >
> > > @Hello Y. Yes obvious trolling by David “cherry picking” H., who despite possessing significant statistical acumen, attributes 5 SAS NBA championships to other teams simply becoming tired of winning.
> >
> > > [@David H.](#):
> > >
> > > @Hello Y. “Tim Duncan would like a word”
> > > What word would that be, “overrated”? Duncan reached even the conference finals in consecutive seasons only thrice in his career, and at his peak, alongside #1 and #3 picks, watched another team Threepeat(r). He also captained Team USA to epic disaster at the Olympics, being almost the only player in basketball history to lose legitimate games at the Olympics, while captain of Team USA.
> > > I could obviously go on, since there exist about a million reasons why, but Duncan is not remotely close to what you imagine.
> >
> > > [@Mike J.](#):
> > >
> > > @David H. Yup, Sean Elliott, Michael Jordan, classic “#3 picks”!
> > > Not to mention that Duncan won 3 other titles without \*either\* Robinson or Elliott. How intellectually dishonest.
> > > Only… conference finals… consecutive seasons… thrice. Lol. That’s all?!
> > > Who gives a sh1t about “consecutive” anyway? Are 5 spaced out titles less impressive then a threepeat and back to back, a la Kobe? Um…why?
> > > Other than that, good comment!
> >
> > > [@Jim C.](#):
> > >
> > > @David H. OK, you’ve demonstrated you know nothing about basketball or the NBA so you should stop now. You’re not remotely as smart as you think you are.
> >
> > > [@Mike J.](#):
> > >
> > > @Jim C. Nobody ever won anything without “outstanding” teammates. Duncan didn’t win without Robinson or Parker & Ginobili (and then Kawhi), Jordan didn’t win without Pippen, Magic didn’t win without Kareem and then Worthy, Hakeem didn’t win without Drexler, Bird didn’t win without Parish and McHale.
> > > I think you can fairly say Shaq was the #1 on the 3peat teams, but Gasol was clearly the #2 on the latter title teams.
> > > Look, I’m a Lakers fan giving Duncan his due - I absolutely \*hated\* those teams! But you have to tip your cap, unless you’re a contrarian moron like David (who I absolutely guarantee is a lawyer). Kobe was pretty damn good too.
> >
> > > [@Seth H.](#):
> > >
> > > @David H. Brother. A quick google search tells me that a TOTAL of 26 people have won 5 or more titles. That’s it exactly the ‘quite a few’ you are going for there. Also, there is no team in any given year that would say they are ‘tired of winning’ or be willing to just give over a chip to another team. That point is so ridiculous that it is difficult to respond to in a manner that will seem salient to the one who made it. Maybe that’s what it means not to suffer a fool.
> >
> > > [@Maxx P.](#):
> > >
> > > @David H. “I’m glad you asked. It is because San Antonio only won after much better teams got tired of winning and broke up.”
> > > lololol
> > > Always the stupidest sh!t from this guy.
> > > lololol
> >
> > > [@Maxx P.](#):
> > >
> > > @David H.
> > > “Tim Duncan, in my opinion, is the greatest power forward ever.” - Charles Barkley
> > > “Greatest power forward of all time.” - Shaquille O’Neal
> > > “He was the best power forward ever.” - Dirk Nowitzki
> > > “He’s in the conversation of “most overrated ever”, in fact.” - David H.
>
> > [@Jack C.](#):
> >
> > The 3 guard lineup will not work. They’ll need to move Fox or Harper to the bench. PG is not the special position on this team, it’s wing. They need to maximize Castle, Vassel, Champagne and Johnson’s minutes. Doesn’t matter who the 1 is that’s out there. They are both great players and my bet is SAS will figure it out.
>
> > [@Chris K.](#):
> >
> > 1-13 shooting 😂
> >
> > > [@StatisticsAddic T.](#):
> > >
> > > @Chris K. Even crazier his on / off was only -2 while shooting that poorly
>
> > [@Devin T.](#):
> >
> > It seems indicative of Wemby being a social-media-generation superstar that his take on this game after a very poor performance would be commentary on “what I like” rather than “what I need to do better”…
> > I know he was anointed the Greatest Player In The Game last year, but I don’t know about this guy competitively.
> > He is very satisfied with himself already, it would seem.
>
> > [@Grant B.](#):
> >
> > Watching the nation turn against the Spurs this season will be delicious.
> > This truly just is not a likeable team. And for being the NBA’s new golden boy, Wemby sure does complain a lot.
> > Without the scapegoat of tough-defender Lu Dort, the Thunder are going to look downright exciting to watch for the neutral. Shai looked every part of the B2B MVP.
> >
> > > [@Allen M.](#):
> > >
> > > @Grant B. What are you talking about? OKC is downright the most unlikeable team there is.
> > > They all flop like crazy. I’m not even telling them to stop because it works. The NBA has turned into the flop league and it’s almost unwatchable at times. Some of the fouls they called were literally someone tapped their toe.
> > > I’m going to keep watching because I’m a fan but holy hell is it hard to watch sometimes.
>
> > [@Black Karin](#):
> >
> > 7’5" and you shoot ONE for 13?? Lmao!! This brutha is an overrated little beyatch!! Embarrassing!!!
>
> > [@jacob K.](#):
> >
> > This is an asburdly results oriented article. The difference in the game was Wemby missing shots he’ll normally make and McCain hitting shots he’ll normally miss. The teams looked equally matched, as ever.
>
> > [@Nick P.](#):
> >
> > We constantly make this mistake of rating a guy’s skills relative to his position, and then when we see relative excellence we think that equals some sort of superstar trajectory. Wemby has amazing skills … for a center of that height. But he’s never actually been Kyrie out there, and he’s not Shaq so he’s always gonna get pushed around a bit, so unless he develops a skyhook he doesn’t ACTUALLY project as a superstar scorer, and we should stop expecting that, and Spurs fans should basically be happy that he isn’t Gobert.
> > And Chet’s another excellent example, everyone keeps trying to make his stardom happen … and why? Because he has excellent skills … for a center … which is a position he DOESN’T EVEN PLAY. He’s just kind of CLOSE to being a center so we go into ‘what if’ mode, fantasize him about the position he SHOULD be playing, and mold him into a shape that he just isn’t, and there’s no actual reason to believe he ever will be that. Guys can improve skills but it’s almost unprecedented for a guy to develop actual superstar skills while in the NBA.
> >
> > > [@jacob K.](#):
> > >
> > > @Nick P. Nah, that’s not what’s happening with Wemby. He’s possibly the best defender the game has ever seen, and is also an excellent offensive player. His defense is Ohtani as a hitter, and his offense is Ohtani as a pitcher.
>
> > [@Anonymous U.](#):
> >
> > This dude routinely chokes in big moments…so overrated. (And a horrible sport.)
>
> > [@David H.](#):
> >
> > “This is not the sport I like right here…”
> > Oh no, Wembanyama to go deep sea fishing with Ben Simmons now?!? I bet Jokić is texting him right now, telling him how much more fun horseback riding is.
>
> > [@Aaron G.](#):
> >
> > He’ll never go 1-13 again. Flush it and move on. Castle is the one to worry about, if we’re going to get all worked up over one game.
>
> > [@George C.](#):
> >
> > The Spurs had the same problems last night that they had against the Knicks in the Finals. De’Aaron Fox and the fact teams have figured out how to defend Wemby and score around him. Get physical with him when the Spurs have the ball and on offense don’t challenge him inside. Fox cost the Spurs the title with missed shots and the inability to defend bigger opponents.
> >
> > > [@David H.](#):
> > >
> > > @George C. It’s even a little simpler than that, George. San Antonio just doesn’t have sufficient – or arguably any – reliable scorers, or shooters. Any smart team is going to let them fire away from outside, and dare them to convert enough to win. Their history so far is that they won’t be able to do so regularly.
> > > Their only three above-league-average shooters last season were Barnes, Vassell, and Champagnie, and none shot even 39%. So teams will be fine with inviting San Antonio to play those guys and let them shoot. They will win some games that way, but that’s clearly preferable to the alternatives for the opposition.
> > > Oklahoma City didn’t even play all that smartly on defense last night. There were several possessions where Wembanyama caught the ball 22+ feet from the basket, and the Thunder pressed up on him – inviting him to improve his position. That’s pointless. Just let him shoot from there. He’s not going to make enough to beat you regularly, as he demonstrated last night and throughout his career to date. He wants to be a the world’s tallest shooting guard, and opponents should absolutely beg him to indulge that fantasy. The last thing opponents should do is press him high, which invites him to drive, and he will draw a foul in that situation, because the NBA has hundreds of billions in potential profit riding on Europe, and they need Wembanyama for leverage there.
>
> > [@balesrod](#):
> >
> > Wembenyama was 0 for 12 and yet the Spurs closed to 7 points after being down 26. The Spurs couldn’t make a three point shot and the Thunder couldn’t miss one. Just one game.
> > I do wince every time Wemby puts up a three.
> > I don’t understand why he avoids the paint.
> > He hangs out on the three point line like a knock down shooter.
> > I thought that Wembenyama in the off season might come up with a go to offensive move. Sky Hook! His go to shot shouldn’t be a three pointer. But it is. I can only hope that he shoots a higher %.
> >
> > > [@Mark S.](#):
> > >
> > > @balesrod You are looking for something to be positive about, and you come up with “they were only down 7 at one point”? All right, fair enough!
>
> > [@Lucas M.](#):
> >
> > Screw it, bench Wemby and go 5 guards! We drafted another big who can rebound and muscle people around. You think Fox can muscle Chet, wait until he trie to get a rebound against Reed. Spurs desperately need to find a 4 that works. Its gotta be Harris, because 4 guards aint it. This one is on Mitch for tinkering IMO. There will be a few more of these discombobulated losses too before we settle into a rotation.
via [The Athletic](https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7709892/2026/10/21/wembanyama-spurs-lose-okc/#comments)