# \[PtR\] 马刺不敌尼克斯，我们从中看出了什么？
**URL:** https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/44002
**Category:** 环球刺讯
**Tags:** 2025-26赛季, 迪伦-哈珀, 维克托-文班亚马, 斯蒂芬-卡斯尔
**Created:** [2025 年12 月 17 日 16:00 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/44002 "2025-12-17T16:00:05Z")
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### 作者：  [@PtR](https://chinaspurs.com/u/PtR)
#### 发布日期： [2025 年12 月 17 日 16:00 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/44002/1 "2025-12-17T16:00:05Z")
By Mateo Mayorga | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-12-17 13:30:00
维克托·文班亚马 (Victor Wembanyama) 终究也是凡人，尽管输掉了阿联酋航空杯决赛，但圣安东尼奥马刺队也能坦然接受，毕竟有 212,373 美元的奖金等着他们，无论他们想用这笔钱来做什么。双向合同球员也能分到一半奖金，但比起金钱，主教练米奇·约翰逊 (Mitch Johnson) 认为，这段经历才是他们最大的收获。
作为一支正在崛起且在赛季初未被视为争冠者的球队，马刺在比赛中所承受的压力是最小的，而队里的年轻球员们在这些高风险的比赛中成长了不少。当季后赛真正来临时，马刺将是少数几支通过了季后赛前预演的球队之一，他们的心态会更加敏锐。别忘了，往届这项赛事的亚军最终都打入了分区决赛或NBA总决赛。
然而，尽管拉斯维加斯很酷，但如果这些赛事能不在中立场举行就更好了，因为球迷在主场看球时会更加狂热。举个例子，想象一下，如果文班亚马第三节那波得分狂潮发生在冰霜银行中心，那里会变成怎样一个疯狂的海洋。再想想尼克斯队，他们自1973年以来就再未染指任何重要冠军，如果OG·阿奴诺比 (OG Anunoby) 在最后两分钟命中那记将领先优势扩大到八分的三分球，麦迪逊广场花园的屋顶恐怕都会被掀翻。
第三节是比赛中最激动人心的时段，两队合计命中了九记三分球。当双方球员不断投进三分时，我脑海里唯一能想到的就是电影《甜心先生》(Jerry Maguire) 中小古巴·古丁 (Cuba Gooding Jr.) 大喊“Show me the money”（给我钱！）的场景。
赛季进行了30%，马刺队已经充分展现了他们的篮球品性。然而，他们可以从第四节的崩盘中学到的教训是，在季后赛中绝不能犯下同样的错误，比如放空三分线，以及被对手的节奏带着走，仓促完成高难度出手。
除了没能拿到更丰厚的支票外，马刺真正的损失是，他们无法用阿联酋航空杯来畅饮自己喜欢的饮料，从而预演未来的庆祝仪式。
几点观察：
- 杰伦·布伦森 (Jalen Brunson) 的注册身高是6英尺2英寸，但他并非一个小个子后卫，因为他的身体极其强壮。他的力量和对急停跳投的精湛掌握使他成为防守者的噩梦。值得注意的是，自2019-20赛季以来，他的季后赛40+场次（9场）为全联盟所有球员之最，因此能将他的投篮命中率限制在40.7%已经相当不错了。他赢得了本届杯赛的MVP，但阿奴诺比才是尼克斯周二表现最好的球员，因为他在内线和外线都打爆了马刺。
- 在这方面，杯赛决赛并没有给我带来新的启示，但难道现在还不清楚吗？斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Stephon Castle) 正在追赶德阿隆·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox)，成为一名更具影响力的球员——如果他还没有超越的话。卡斯尔是防守端一颗冉冉升起的新星（当他不再吃假动作晃起时），他能够防守多个位置，同时他的进攻技术也正在开花结果。诚然，他的助攻失误比只有1.68，但好在他有冒险的自由，因为他最终会从错误中成长。如果他在职业生涯某个阶段没能成为联盟前十的球员，那将是一个巨大的意外。
- 最终，文班亚马作为极具毁灭性的第六人的短暂时期将会结束，但这也凸显了当他重返首发阵容时，需要有其他人站出来。从目前的情况来看，为什么迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 不能成为那位超级替补呢？他是一位真正的突破高手，也是一名出色的组织者，这应该有助于激活其他队友。他的表现每场都在进步。
- 米切尔·罗宾逊 (Mitchell Robinson) 在篮板方面化身摩西·马龙 (Moses Malone) 是击垮马刺的因素之一。除了身材高大，他体型宽厚强壮，因此能与比自己更高的球员进行身体对抗。看着罗宾逊抢下10个进攻篮板，凸显了文班需要变得更强壮，并且在某些情况下，不应去追逐每一次封盖机会，因为他至少有一次为了尝试封盖而失去了篮板位置，让对手补篮得手。
- 就像在拳击比赛中一样，有时你的身价可以在失利中不降反升。马刺在这次杯赛之旅中证明了他们比2美元的牛排还难啃。尽管打出了赛季第二差的投篮表现，他们在决赛的最后时刻依然保留着悬念。球队不可能总是打出自己的风格，所以他们必须学会如何用尽一切办法赢下比赛。这就像一个喜欢在外线游走进攻的拳手，必须在与一个技术粗糙但危险的对手的近身肉搏中幸存下来。尽管输了球，但在比赛风格不适合自己的逆境中，马刺正变得越来越善于坚持战斗。
_由生成式 AI 翻译，译文内容可能不准确或不完整，以原文为准。_
> **点击查看原文：What We Learned from the Spurs loss to the Knicks**
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> # What We Learned from the Spurs loss to the Knicks
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> Victor Wembanyama must be human after all, and despite losing in the Emirates Cup Final, the San Antonio Spurs can cope, knowing $212,373 is waiting for them for whatever they have in mind. The two-way players get half of the pot, too, but more than the money, the ride is what coach Mitch Johnson thinks they’ll take most from it.
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> As a team on the come-up that wasn’t labeled a contender before the season started, the Spurs were playing with the least amount of pressure, and the young guys grew up a bit in these higher-stakes games. When playoff time rolls around, the Spurs will be one of the few who passed their postseason pre-check and will be mentally sharper. Keep in mind that the runner-up in previous years reached the conference finals or the NBA Finals.
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> Yet, as cool as Las Vegas is, these events would be better without a neutral court because fans are rowdier when they are seeing their team at home. For example, imagine how the Frost Bank Center would have turned into a madhouse if Wembanyama’s third-quarter flurry happened there. Or consider how the Knicks, who haven’t won anything important since 1973, and how Madison Square Garden’s lid would have flown off when OG Anunoby buried a triple to put them up eight in the last two minutes.
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> The third quarter was the most exciting sequence of the game as both squads combined for nine 3-pointers. All I could think about as both sides drained them was Cuba Gooding Jr. yelling, “Show me the money,” in the film, Jerry Maguire.
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> The Spurs have shown a lot of their basketball character through 30 percent of the season. Yet the lesson they can take away from blowing the fourth quarter is what not to do in a playoff game, like giving up the 3-point line and being sped up into tough shots.
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> Aside from not collecting a bigger check, the real loss for the Spurs is that they can’t practice future celebrations by drinking their preferred liquid refreshment from the Emirates Cup.
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> **Takeaways:**
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> - Jalen Brunson is listed at 6’2, but he’s not a small guard because he’s jacked. His strength and mastery of pull-up shooting make him a nightmare to defend. Take note that he’s logged the most 40-point playoff games since 2019-20 (9) of any player in the league, so holding him to 40.7 percent shooting is not half bad. He won MVP of the tournament, but Anunoby was New York’s top player on Tuesday, since he killed the Spurs inside and out.
> - The Cup finale did nothing for me in this regard, but is it not clear that Stephon Castle is closing in on De’Aaron Fox as a more impactful player, if he hasn’t already? Castle is a rising star on defense (when he isn’t biting on pump fakes) who can guard up and down, while his offensive game is blossoming. Sure, his assist-to-turnover ratio is only 1.68, but it’s good that he has the freedom to take risks because he will eventually grow out of the mistakes. It would be a big surprise if he doesn’t turn into a top 10 player at some point in his career.
> - Eventually, Wembanyama‘s short reign as a devastating sixth man will conclude, but it highlights the need for someone to step up when he returns to the starting unit. The way things are going, why can’t Dylan Harper be the super sub? He’s the real deal as a penetrator and is a good playmaker, which should help activate the others. He gets stronger with every game.
> - Mitchell Robinson turning into Moses Malone on the glass was one of the factors that did the Spurs in. Aside from being a big body, he’s wide and strong, so he can bang with those taller than him. Watching Robinson grab 10 offensive rebounds highlighted the need for Wemby to get stronger, and in some instances, not to chase every shot to block it, because he gave up rebounding position at least once for a putback.
> - Like in boxing, sometimes your stock can rise in a loss. The Spurs showed through the tournament’s run that they are tougher than a $2 steak. They were even alive late in the final in spite of their second-worst shooting night of the season. Teams won’t always be able to play to their identity, so they have to learn how to get it done by any means. It’s similar to when a fighter, who likes to attack from the outside, has to survive a bar brawl with someone less skilled but dangerous. Despite the loss, the Spurs are getting better at staying in the fight when in a game that doesn’t suit their style.
By Mateo Mayorga, via [Pounding The Rock](https://www.poundingtherock.com/spurs-analysis/91459/what-we-learned-from-the-spurs-loss-to-the-knicks)
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### 作者：  [@PtR](https://chinaspurs.com/u/PtR)
#### 发布日期： [2025 年12 月 17 日 20:50 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/44002/2 "2025-12-17T20:50:04Z")
# 热评：
> [@CanadianHeatFan](#):
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> 在第四节后半段，一系列的篮板球归属和关键回合导致了比赛的失利。在那之前，马刺面对一个强劲的对手，打出了高质量且能赢球的篮球。我不太认同那些关于索汉、文班或是缺少球的转移的批评（即便这些批评有道理），因为马刺无论如何都打得足够好了，他们在前三个半节已经证明了这一点。问题在于收官阶段执行力的下滑。这听起来是一个可以解决的问题。
> [@stormchaser4life](#):
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> 我来谈谈我的看法。马刺在上半场控制了比赛，因为他们在转移球，冲击尼克斯的腹地，然后传给空位的队友。可惜的是，巴恩斯在错误的时间点陷入了低迷，如果他继续投丢这些大空位投篮，那么是时候让他给奥利尼克打替补了。是的，我知道，大家都更喜欢巴恩斯而不是奥利尼克，但我还是要再说一遍，巴恩斯正经历着马刺队史上最糟糕的投篮低迷之一（对阵雷霆和尼克斯三分球命中率0%）。我能记起来唯一更糟的就是埃弗里·约翰逊。别跟我提埃弗里。但那只是问题之一。另一个问题，这可能会让我在论坛上更不受欢迎，就是文班（在这场比赛里）。第三节中段，文班上场后就瞎扔了两个中圈附近的三分球。我当时就在想，哦不！他要退回到他刚开始打球时的老路子上了，就是扔那种超远距离的三分球。他甚至没考虑过把球传给空位的队友，就是运球刚过半场线，扔了个祈祷式的投篮，然后尼克斯就在转换进攻中把马刺打花了。GAME OVER。说实话，看完那个烂操作我就断定比赛结束了。尼克斯内线没有唐斯坐镇，结果我们干了什么？瞎扔三分。文班、巴恩斯、尚帕尼……哐、哐、哐、哐、哐。那之后我就关了电视。比赛结束了。米奇·约翰逊需要叫个暂停然后明确表示，下一个不转移球的人，本场剩余时间就别想上了。我不在乎我们用替补会不会输球。下一个犯错的人就得坐板凳，直到他有足够的纪律性去用正确的方式打球才准上场。上半场打得非常出色，很大程度上要归功于卡斯尔。下半场，简直是一场灾难。业余水准的表演。要是文班能在内线打，去单挑罗宾逊就好了。还有，罗宾逊的罚球命中率只有17%。对他犯规啊！！！！每次他一接球就犯规。别让他扣篮。对他犯规。我的天啊。看看东部的其他球队是怎么对付他的。那就是他90%时间都坐在板凳上的原因。他们就差用他换个火腿三明治了，因为其他球队根本不让他有机会出手。结果马刺又让他打出了身价。唉！！打得聪明点啊伙计们。拜托了。
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> > [@thirtynineyearfanversion2.0](#):
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> > 不确定仅仅连续两场糟糕表现怎么就能算作“马刺队史上最糟糕的投篮低迷之一”。
> [@Henny49](#):
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> 我从输给尼克斯的比赛中得到的启示是，而且这对我来说至关重要，我为我们年轻的马刺感到非常骄傲。他们在全国直播的舞台上打出了卓越的篮球。他们一度让尼克斯队疲于应对，直到第四节的最后阶段才落入下风，这至少在我看来是可以理解的。但他们会将这次的曝光度和经验带到四月份开始的季后赛中。现在是我的批评时间：有哪场比赛福克斯没有出现多次失误吗？我已经到了每次福克斯在紧张局势下拿到球，并且在被双人甚至三人包夹时还试图突破，我就会开始感到害怕的地步。而且他的空接配合也打不成了。第二，尼克斯暴露了马刺比赛计划中的一个痛点，那就是让对手抢到太多进攻篮板。光尼克斯的罗宾逊一个人就抢了10多个进攻篮板。由于维克托（Victor）伤愈复出后上场时间受限，科内特无法独自承担内线重任，而米奇也没有从板凳上派上任何其他大个子。如果马刺真的决定在交易截止日前有所动作，我认为唯一的首要任务是不能动我们的核心团队，同时我们需要再得到一个擅长保护防守篮板的大个子。除了我说的这几点，我真的为我们的球员们感到骄傲，他们在拉斯维加斯确实成熟了很多。
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> 就我个人而言，我想对维克托祖母的去世致以我最沉痛的哀悼，并向维克托及其直系亲属，以及他在法国的挚友们，表达我最诚挚的慰问。愿上帝保佑所有人。
> [@Los Diablo](#):
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> 要是我们队里有个年轻、运动能力强、防守出色、无所畏惧、擅长对抗和拼抢篮板，身高大约6尺8寸，能跟阿努诺比抗衡或者能顶住罗宾逊的球员就好了……
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> > [@10 GO SPURS 10](#):
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> > 是啊——也许过段时间我们会有，但出于某种原因，我们最近没用他，而且昨晚的比赛可能风险太大了，不适合在球队依靠投射型阵容打出一波流之后，突然给他一个机会。既要融入文班，又要让JS（杰里米·索汉）加入轮换，在一场胶着的冠军争夺战中，指望两个久疏战阵的球员成为答案……不过，考虑到罗宾逊和阿努诺比的表现，你的想法确实有道理。
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> > [@brunostrange](#):
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> > J-Mac（朱利安·尚帕尼）没有6尺8寸啊，哥们。
> [@sdowns1470](#):
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> CBS体育发布了本周的实力排行榜。我们这周排在第五位。他们是这么说的：
> “如上所述，马刺在周二的阿联酋杯锦标赛中输给了尼克斯，但这场失利在官方记录上并不存在。所以马刺实际上仍处于一波三连胜中，其中包括在一场不可思议的比赛中送给雷霆赛季第二败，那场比赛宣告了马刺是当下一支真正的劲旅。斯蒂芬·卡斯尔、德亚伦·福克斯（De’Aaron Fox）和迪伦·哈珀（Dylan Harper）是与维克托·文班亚马（Victor Wembanyama）搭档的难缠后卫三人组。你在季后赛里绝对不想碰到这支球队。”
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> 我同意这个看法。我们的球员年轻且充满渴望。他们想证明别人是错的。我已经等不及今年的季后赛了。大家怎么看？
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> > [@Fkj](#):
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> > 第五名……谁能在赛季初想到这个排名。这支球队的成长进度远超预期。
> [@older not wiser](#):
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> 昨晚第四节的表现确实让人难以接受。但是……综合PtR（Pounding the Rock论坛）的主流看法（以及我自己的观点）：
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> - 赛季的第一个四分之一打得太棒了。马刺的表现超出了几乎所有人的预期。
> - 维克仍在学习和成长中。可能整个赛季都会如此。话虽如此，他相比去年已经实现了飞跃，并开始驾驭他那无穷的天赋。我们能见证这一切是何其荣幸。
> - “球队的其他人”真的非常强大，在维克缺阵期间有机会磨合。
> - 福克斯是一个合格的二当家。不完美，但贾马尔·穆雷（Jamal Murray）也不是完美的。
> - 对我来说，卡斯尔和哈珀绝对是本赛季最令人兴奋的进展。你去年就能看到卡斯尔的潜力——那种强壮、有控制力的突破——但他现在已经更上一层楼。在我看来，他已经像是联盟排名前15的防守者了（这会不会太夸张了？我不觉得，但可能我带了粉丝滤镜）。哈珀，令人兴奋，表现和我们所期望的一样好。
> - 科内特。一个不错的首发中锋，而在我们队里他是替补。他的掩护、进攻端的空间感和移动、他稳固的防守。真是笔出色的引援。
> - KJ（凯尔登·约翰逊）还是做着KJ该做的事，只是比过去更纯粹、更高效了。卡特·布莱恩特（Carter Bryant）潜力巨大。
> - 侧翼球员们在投射、防守和篮板方面一直很稳健。同样，并非完美，状态有些起伏，但总的来说，他们是球队的强项而非弱点。
> - 我对索汉的未来没有定论。我希望他在接下来的6周内在圣安东尼奥能获得上场时间并取得成功。我们需要他的拼劲。但我无法预测最终结果会怎样。
> - 这个团队彼此欣赏，并且享受着比赛。这一点非常重要。
> - 综合以上所有，你就有了一个长期成功所需要的坚实基础。《The Athletic》的一位作者曾说过类似这样的话：“马刺迅速跳过了‘我们行不行？’的阶段，直接进入了‘我们是争冠者吗？’的讨论”。虽然还没到那一步，但现在的问题是 _这个_，本身就太令人激动了。
> - 还有很多工作要做。但伴随着十足的信心、乐观和决心，球队的动力非常高涨。支持这个组织向来是件容易的事，但现在，为这支球队加油简直是一种享受。清澈的眼神，饱满的内心，前进吧！
> [@WembyForMayor](#):
>
> 我认识到，和过去几年不同，我现在期待着他们赢球。我曾确信我们能赢下这场比赛，第三节时这种感觉更强烈。即使到了第四节，我也觉得我们会找到办法逆转回来。直到我们最终没能做到。但这没关系，下次我们会做到的。
> [@Fkj](#):
>
> 对我们学到的东西总结得很好。
>
> 我的几点看法：
>
> 1.哇！！这次杯赛之旅真是太刺激了。战胜丹佛和洛杉矶，扳倒“不可战胜的”雷霆，然后在决赛中尽管三分球投丢了那么多，还一度领先11分。唉，最终却以崩溃告终！
>
> 1. 斯蒂芬（Stephen）和迪伦（Dylan）是不可交易的，除非你是尼科·哈里森（Nico Harrison）……这两人至少都有全明星的潜力，甚至可能成为超级巨星……你会选谁？文班/卡斯尔/哈珀，还是切特/SGA/威廉姆斯？毫无疑问是我们的年轻人。
>
> 2. 我认为米奇昨晚未能对罗宾逊做出调整。在第5个进攻篮板之后就该上“法式香草组合”了。
>
> 3. HB（哈里森·巴恩斯）的投篮怎么了？他是我最不希望手感冰凉的人……希望他能找回节奏，在季后赛中弥补回来。
>
> 4. 向纽约致敬，他们顽强拼搏，拒绝被击倒，然后反过来击倒了我们。
> [@camroc1](#):
>
> 如果说这次杯赛给马刺带来了什么，那就是他们现在——多年来第一次——打了几场充满季后赛强度的比赛。这是非常宝贵的一课。除了亲身经历，没有别的方法可以学到。这段经历绝对会帮助那些在这里待得最久、经历过那些沉闷的蛮荒岁月的球员们。尤其是德文（Devin），因为在我们所有的老将中，他有最多的潜力尚未兑现。而他正开始很好地提升自己的努力程度和严肃态度。太棒了！
> 维克托说我们还没到那个水平。但我已经迫不及待想听他说我们到了。那一天就快来了。是的，比我所期望的还要快。
>
> 加油马刺加油！
> [@spurstiger](#):
>
> 我认为早点派上索汉去消耗对手、骗取犯规、抢篮板，并在内线作为策应点与文班联系，会很有好处。空间不仅仅适用于外线投射，也适用于内线空间。
>
> 我们已经看到去年他和文班一起上场时有很高的净效率值。波波（Pop）是懂得如何使用他的。
>
> > [@Carlos280](#):
> >
> > 索汉去年圣诞大战对阵尼克斯，得到21分9篮板2助攻。
> >
> > 我记得那场比赛文班好像拿了40还是41分。
> [@arizonaviking](#):
>
> 那是一个极其糟糕的第四节。事实上，我们在比赛还剩不到2分钟时仍有机会，这已经很了不起了。
> 投不进球，篮板被完爆，但在还剩2分钟时，分差仍然是个位数。
> 而且所有的运气球都弹向了他们那边，他们需要一个近乎完美的单节表现才能反超，所以我对未来的比赛并不太灰心。只要我们不自己崩溃、不打败自己，我们应该能击败任何对手。
> 还是一支年轻的球队。
> [@gregatronn](#):
>
> > 杯赛决赛在这方面对我没什么启发，但斯蒂芬·卡斯尔正在追赶德亚伦·福克斯，成为一个更具影响力的球员，难道这还不明显吗？
>
> 福克斯吸引了对方更好的防守者，所以卡斯尔能从对位一个较弱的防守者中获益。这是福克斯能够持续提供的最好助攻之一。在作为两名年轻有才华的后卫的导师之外，这本身就是非常大的影响力了。
>
> > [@SteelersnSpursfan](#):
> >
> > 是的，就是这样！
> >
> > 不仅如此，福克斯现在可以有所保留，打得更有效率，我认为这是他以前从未有过的机会。
> [@glhtex](#):
>
> 我学到的是，当我今天早上看排名时，这场失利根本无关紧要。而且，这只是全队伤员回归后的第二场比赛。我们需要一些时间来适应文班在阵容中的角色。他打了25分钟。如果他打了35分钟，结果会是怎样？我们很快就会知道了。
> [@Newmexican](#):
>
> 我太爱昨晚卡斯尔和哈珀的表现了。卡斯尔的防守、12次助攻和只有2次失误，以及哈珀投进6个三分并成为得分王，对于一个二年级球员和一个新秀来说，这表现简直令人难以置信。
> 看他们俩打球是一种享受，期待他们身披银黑战袍的未来许多年。
> [@IowaNice](#):
>
> 我们学到了，无论HB（巴恩斯）投篮有多糟，无论球队在篮板上被爆得多惨，米奇都不会派上杰里米（索汉）。
>
> 我们学到了米奇可以挑战判罚——并且成功。希望他未来能更大胆一些。
>
> 是的，维克托也是凡人。我现在更加感激他在第三节的表现了，因为现在才知道他的祖母在决赛当天早上去世了。
>
> > [@Toblet](#):
> >
> > 米奇终于做了一次成功的挑战，但裁判却给了他一个技术犯规，并且没算尚帕尼的那个三分球！即使他挑战成功了，我们这个赛季也得不到应有的回报，这快把我逼疯了。
> >
> > 而且，是的，我同意你的观点，米奇只有一个计划：打小个阵容。
> >
> > 罗宾逊用他的进攻篮板赢得了比赛，而我们从未尝试过任何改变。不上索汉，不上奥利尼克，也不上科内特和文班的组合。他就这样眼睁睁地看着我们的禁区成了不设防的后花园。
> >
> > 我看够了波波和米奇未能充分利用这支天赋异禀的球队。
> [@Jdub84](#):
>
> 在我个人看来，尼克斯这场比赛极其幸运。马刺在整场比赛中的防守强度都更好，但球却一次次奇迹般地弹回到尼克斯球员手中。我从没见过这样的事。有一个回合，球砸在科莱克（Kolek）的肩膀上，正好弹到一个大空位投手手里，后者命中了三分。
>
> 此外，在关键时刻有几次判罚真的很伤，科内特在尚帕尼投进三分时那个幽灵犯规，以及之后不久另一次出界球的错判。这摧毁了马刺刚刚开始建立起来的任何势头。
> [@GaryWayne](#):
>
> 我想说巴恩斯/尚帕尼在过去两场比赛中三分球合计23投4中。他们俩都获得了多次空位机会，如果他们俩不是疯狂打铁，卡斯尔的助攻数本可以达到15次以上。不幸的是，当这两位投不进球时，他们可能会成为球队的累赘。两人的传球和防守都不是特别好。虽然巴恩斯有时能突到篮下并得分，但尚帕尼则纯粹是一个三分射手。不过，考虑到他们过往的整体表现，我预计他们俩会很快反弹。
>
> 俗话说，风格决定成败。尼克斯在48分钟内都保持着不懈的身体对抗。在收官阶段，他们似乎强行施加了自己的意志，并提升了一个档次，这是马刺无法匹敌的。
>
> 文班在进攻端看起来有些失控，很明显不是他自己。每次他运球仍然像是一场冒险，但我们最不应该担心的就是他。他很快就会恢复到他那统治级的表现。
>
> 对哈珀的三分雨感到鼓舞。他的投篮姿势很流畅，大多数都是空心入网。
> [@Tropicaldaze](#):
>
> 我学到的是，当我们通过足够多次季后赛深度历练的熔炉，赢得我们的资历后（无论这需要多少次），我们将变得非常、非常难以被击败。在那之前，我们必须学习一些无法逃避的教训。
> [@Obi-WanGinobili](#):
>
> 我学到的是，我仍然需要找到更好的方法来应对失利。我在这方面太差劲了。
> [@spiceymeatball](#):
>
> 我学到的是，哈珀有潜力成为一名出色的防守者。卡斯尔越来越像一个控球后卫了。还有，文班也是凡人——我为他的损失感到难过。
> [@SpinachBoy](#):
>
> 我们输球的主要原因是经验不足——无论是球员还是教练。
>
> 但没什么好担心的，如果说有什么的话，这就是我们希望马刺现在而不是以后去经历的。额外的好处是，这场失利不计入我们的赛季战绩，所以不应该影响我们争夺季后赛的排名。
>
> 向尼克斯致敬，他们显然非常渴望这场胜利，你可以看到球队的季后赛经验为他们在第四节铺平了道路。我很高兴他们对我们这些年轻的马刺全力以赴，从而暴露了我们的经验不足。
>
> 这次失利的一线希望是，马刺获得了一次免费的季后赛体验，并且在战胜联盟最佳球队（即雷霆）后被上了一课，变得谦卑。我宁愿他们现在吃点苦头，也不愿在季后赛中才吃到。
>
> 另外，我对维克及其家人失去亲人表示哀悼。向维克致敬，即使在赛前得知消息后仍然上场比赛，他表现得非常职业！！！
> [@RedFirebird](#):
>
> 我们的球员们正在学习如何在逆境中坚持战斗，这确实是一件大事。写得真好！
> PTR这里的文章真的能抚慰人心，或者帮助我们从正确的角度看待比赛，无论输赢。这里的作者们太棒了。
>
> 我还学到，今天早上看那张杯赛冠军照片时，我心里很不舒服，仍然希望照片里的是我们的球员 😉
> [@Will Haz](#):
>
> 在比赛当天早上，维克托的祖母不幸去世，我的心与他和他的家人同在。
>
> 在思考维克托及其球队的表现时，我无法忽视这一事件。
> 马刺的一切都进展得如此顺利，所有伤员回归，球队团结一致，还在拉斯维加斯与尼克斯会师决赛。
>
> 精神上，这场比赛一定很难打……甚至他的身体语言也和对阵雷霆时不同。
> 我热爱这项运动，但这终究只是篮球。
>
> 让我们忘了这场比赛（从数据上讲，它无关紧要），然后重新振作，在对阵华盛顿的比赛中继续这个伟大的赛季。
> 来自法国，加油马刺加油！
> [@brunostrange](#):
>
> 我所有尼克斯球迷的朋友今天都在说各种垃圾话。真不爽。
> [@GdayMate8](#):
>
> 如果哈珀能继续投进三分，他绝对会成为一个超级替补。他在这场比赛中站了出来。
> [@MinchMaster](#):
>
> - 文班应该停止试图回到那个热爱三分的中锋模式。虽然那是他的武器之一，但它不是最大、最有效的武器。当他留在禁区时，我们作为一个团队打得好得多。（尽管如此，还是向他表示哀悼）
> - 米奇应该停止讨厌索汉。不，我不是说索汉应该总是首发对位对方主力，但在面对一支打法强硬、身体对抗激烈的尼克斯队时，他本可以被利用起来。一些进攻篮板是其他球员抢到的，不只是米切尔·罗宾逊（Mitchell Robinson）。索汉本可以帮助卡位。是的，他没有进攻能力，但实际上巴恩斯和尚帕尼也是如此，当他们投不进三分时，效率就荡然无存。
> - 如果哈珀有不错的三分投射，他可以成为一个超级巨星。
> - 我猜我们需要变得更出名、更受关注一些。卡斯尔很少得到哨子，你每场比赛都能看到他被撞得人仰马翻。米奇因为科内特的犯规而吃到的那个技术犯规完全是扯淡。
> - 这支球队天赋满满；只是需要更好的执教和更多的经验。
> - 总的来说，这是一场真正令人痛心的失利，但希望他们能从中吸取教训。
> [@Nasty spurs ph](#):
>
> 这种失利正是波波（Pop）常常描述的“适度的恐惧”，这样我们就不会因为最近的成功而变得自满。
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>
> > [@CanadianHeatFan](#):
> >
> > There were a series of bounces and pivotal plays that lost the game later in the 4th quarter. Until that point the Spurs were playing quality winning basketball against a good opponent. I discount the criticisms about Sochan or Wemby or lack of ball movement [even if valid] because the Spurs had enough anyway, they showed it through the first 3 1/2 quarters. The problem was the deterioration of execution down the stretch. That sounds like a solvable problem.
>
> > [@stormchaser4life](#):
> >
> > I’ll give my thoughts. The Spurs controlled the game in the 1st half because they were moving the ball and driving into the heart of the Knicks, then passing to the open man. It’s a shame that Barnes went into a slump at a bad time and if he continues to miss wide open shots, then it’s time to bench him in favor of Olynyk. Yeah, I know, everyone loves Barnes better than Olynk, yet I say again, Barnes is in one of the worse shooting slumps in the history of the Spurs (0% on 3’s vs OKC and NY). Only one worse that I could recall was Avery Johnson. Don’t get me started on Avery. But that was one of the problems. The other, which would make me more unpopular on here, is Wemby (this game). Midway in the 3rd Qtr, Wemby entered the game and jacked up 2 mid-court three balls. I was saying, OH NO! He’s retracting back into his old game, when he first started playing. Jacking long, long, 3 balls. He didn’t even consider moving the ball to open players. Just dribbled over the half-court line, threw a hail Mary, then NY ran the Spurs off the court in transition. GAME OVER. I actually called game over after watching that crap. NY were without the services of KAT inside and what do they do? Jack up 3 balls. Wemby, Barnes, Champagnie.. Clank, Clank, Clank, Clank, Clank. I turned it off after that. Game Over. Mitch Johnson needs to call time out and explain, that the next person who doesn’t move the ball will sit for the remainder of the game. Don’t care if we lose with our back ups. The next person sits and doesn’t go in until they are disciplined enough to play the right way. The first half was brilliant, thanks in large part to Castle. The second half, was a chit/show. Amateur night. If only Wemby played inside and took on Robinson. Also, Robinson shoots 17% from the FT line. Foul him!!! Foul him everytime he touches the ball. Don’t let him dunk on you. Foul him. Good Lord. Look at what other teams are doing in the East against him. That’s why he sits 90% of the time on the bench. They are about to unload him for a ham sandwich because teams don’t allow him to even shoot. The Spurs made him look good again. UGH!! Play smarter guys. Come on.
> >
> > > [@thirtynineyearfanversion2.0](#):
> > >
> > > Not sure how only 2 bad games in a row could qualify for “one of the worst shooting slumps in SPURS history.”
>
> > [@Henny49](#):
> >
> > My takeaway from our loss to NYK was, and this is paramount
> > for me is, I’m very proud of our young Spurs. They played excellent ball on the national scene. They had the Knicks on their heels up until
> > the latter stages of the 4th quarter, which is understandable, at least in my mind. But they will take this exposure and
> > experience with them when the post season playoffs begin in April. Now for my criticism: has there been a game
> > where Fox didn’t have multiple turnovers? I’m getting to the point where I start to cringe every time Fox gets the
> > ball in tight situations and he tries to drive when he is double-triple teamed. And his alley-oops aren’t working
> > either. Second, the Knicks exposed a
> > sore spot in the Spurs game plan and that is giving up offensive rebounding to
> > the opponent. NYK Robinson alone had 10+
> > offensive rebounds. With Victor’s
> > minutes being restricted with his comeback, Kornet can’t carry the load himself and Mitch isn’t playing any other bigs off the bench. If the Spurs do decide to test the trade
> > deadline, the only priority I see is to not gut our core team and we need to
> > get another big who is a good defensive glass cleaner. Aside from my points, I’m really proud of our
> > guys, they really matured in Las Vegas.
> >
> > On a personal note, I would like to pass on my heartfelt
> > sympathy on the passing of Victor’s grandmother and pass on my sincerest
> > condolences to Victor and his immediate family and to his dear friends in
> > France. God Bless all.
>
> > [@Los Diablo](#):
> >
> > If we only had a young, athletic, superior defensive player, and rebounder that is fearless, bangs, and boards at around 6’8" that could hang with Anunoby or shoulder and body Robinson…
> >
> > > [@10 GO SPURS 10](#):
> > >
> > > Yeah—maybe we will after a while, but for some reason we haven’t recently and last night’s game might’ve been a risky time to suddenly give him a shot, after being on such a roll with the shooting-oriented group. Fitting Wemby in and then also getting JS into the mix, going with two rusty pieces expected to be the answer in a tight championship game…. But yeah, a defensible idea with what Robinson and Anunoby were doing.
> >
> > > [@brunostrange](#):
> > >
> > > J-Mac is not 6’8” bro
>
> > [@sdowns1470](#):
> >
> > CBS Sports did their power rankings for the week. We are 5th on their power rankings this week. They said as follows:
> > “As mentioned above the Spurs lost to the Knicks in the Emirates Cup Championship on Tuesday but the loss never technically happened on paper. So the Spurs are actually still on a three game winning streak that includes dealing the Thunder just their second loss of the season in an incredible game that announced the Spurs are a legit force right now. Stephon Castle, De’Aaron Fox and Dylan Harper is a nasty guard trio to have alongside Victor Wembanyama. You do not want to see this team in the playoffs.”
> >
> > I agree with this. Our guys are young and hungry. They want to prove people wrong. I can’t wait until the playoffs this year. What do y’all think of this?
> >
> > > [@Fkj](#):
> > >
> > > #5 …Who would have picked that at start of the season. This team is way ahead of schedule.
>
> > [@older not wiser](#):
> >
> > That Q4 was rough to take last night. But .. consensus from PtR seems to be (mixed with my own takes):
> >
> > - what a first quarter of the season. Spurs ahead of most everyone’s expectations
> > - Vic still on a learning curve. Probably this entire season. Having said that, he has taken the leap from last year and is starting to harness his immense talent. We are so privileged to be watching this.
> > - The “rest of the team” is really strong and had a chance to gel in Vic’s absence.
> > - Fox is a capable #2. Not perfect but neither is Jamal Murray.
> > - Castle and Harper, for me, have to be the most exciting developments of this season. You could see Castle’s potential last year - the strong, controlled driving - but he has leveled up. He looks like a top 15 defender in the league to me already (is that too much? I don’t think so but maybe I’m being biased). Harper, exciting, as good as we had hoped.
> > - Kornet. A decent starting center and he’s our backup. The screening, his offensive spacing and movement, his solid defense. What a pickup.
> > - KJ doing KJ stuff, just more purely and efficiently than in the past. Carter Bryant with lots of potential.- the wings have been solid in shooting, defense and rebounding. Again, not perfect, a little streaky but overall, they are a strength not a weakness.
> > - I don’t have an opinion on Sochan’s future. I hope he gets minutes and finds success in the next 6 weeks in SA. We need his fight. But I don’t have a prediction as to how that shakes out.
> > - this group enjoys each other and is enjoying the game. That is huge.- Add it all up and you have a strong foundation for long-term success. A writer on the Athletic said something like "the Spurs skipped quickly from ‘are we good?’ to ‘are we a contender?’. Not quite yet but the fact that _that_ is the question now is just so exciting.
> > - much work to do. But with lots of confidence, optimism and determination, the motivation is very high. It has always been easy to root for this organization but right now it is just a joy to root for this team. Clear eyes, full hearts folks!
>
> > [@WembyForMayor](#):
> >
> > I’ve learned that, unlike the past few years, I am expecting them to win. I felt sure that we were going to win this, and much moreso in the 3rd. Even in the 4th, we were going to find a way to come back. Until we didn’t. But that’s OK, we’ll do it next time.
>
> > [@Fkj](#):
> >
> > Nice summing up of what we learned.
> >
> > My Dime:
> >
> > 1.WOW!! What a ride through this whole cup trip. The wins vs Denver and LA., taking down the " unbeatable " Thunder, then getting up 11 in the finale despite all the missed 3s. Alas came to end in a crash!
> >
> > 1. Stephen and Dylan are not tradeable, unless you are Nico Harrison..Both of these have atleast all star, and potential superstar upside.. Who would you take..Wemby/ Castle/ Harper or Chet/ SGA/ Williams? Our guys hands down.
> >
> > 2. I think Mitch failed last night to adjust to Robinson. French Vanilla was called for after the 5th off. rebound.
> >
> > 3. What happened to HB’s shot? He was the last guy I expected to go cold..Hope he gets his groove back and makes up for it in the playoffs.
> >
> > 4. Hats off to NYC ,they batteled refused to be knocked out, and then knocked us out.
>
> > [@camroc1](#):
> >
> > If this cup thing showed the Spurs anything, they have now–for the first time in years–played in games with a lot of playoff intensity. That’s a very good lesson. No other way to do it except in real life. This experience will definitely help guys who’ve been here the longest, through the dreary wilderness years. Especially Devin because, of all our old hands, he has the most unfulfilled potential. And he’s starting to lift his level of effort and seriousness nicely. Yay!
> > Victor says we’re not there yet. But I can’t wait to hear him say that we are. It’s coming. Yes, it is, sooner than I even hoped.
> >
> > GSG
>
> > [@spurstiger](#):
> >
> > I think deploying Sochan early to wear guys out and use up fouls, rebound, and be a presence inside to connect with Wemby would be beneficial. Spacing doesn’t just work for perimeter shooting, it works on inside spacing as well.
> >
> > We already saw he had high net ratings with Wemby last year. Pop was able to use him.
> >
> > > [@Carlos280](#):
> > >
> > > Sochan last Christmas vs Knicks 21 pts 9 reb 2 assists
> > >
> > > I believe that Wemby went for 40 or 41 pts that game.
>
> > [@arizonaviking](#):
> >
> > That was an absolutely horrid 4th quarter. The fact that we still had a chance with under 2 minutes to go was amazing.
> > Couldn’t make a shot, absolutely destroyed on the glass, and it was still single digit lead to overcome with 2 minutes to go.
> > Everything was bouncing their way too, they needed a nearly perfect quarter to pull ahead, so I’m not too discouraged going the rest of the way. As long as we dont collapse and beat ourselves, we should beat anyone.
> > Young team still
>
> > [@gregatronn](#):
> >
> > > The Cup finale
> > > did nothing for me in this regard, but is it not clear that Stephon
> > > Castle is closing in on De’Aaron Fox as a more impactful player
> >
> > Fox is drawing the better defender so Castle benefits from a lesser defender. That’s one of the best assists that Fox can provide consistently. That’s a pretty big impact on top of being a mentor to two young talented guards.
> >
> > > [@SteelersnSpursfan](#):
> > >
> > > Yes, this!
> > >
> > > Not only, Fox now can afford to hold back a bit and be more efficient as a player, which I think he never had the opportunity to do so.
>
> > [@glhtex](#):
> >
> > What I learned is that when I looked at the standings this morning this loss mattered not a whit. Also, it was only the second game with the entire team back from injury. We need some time to adjust to Wemby in the lineup. He played 25 minutes. What would the outcome have been if he had played 35? We’re going to find out soon enough.
>
> > [@Newmexican](#):
> >
> > I loved the play of Castle and Harper last night. Castle’s defense and 12 assists and only 2 turnovers and Harper’s 6 threes and leading scorer were insanely impressive for a second year player and a rookie.
> > They were both beautiful to watch and look forward to the many years ahead for them wearing the silver and black.
>
> > [@IowaNice](#):
> >
> > We learned that no matter how badly HB is shooting, and no matter how badly the team is being out-rebounded, Mitch will not play Jeremy.
> >
> > We learned Mitch can challenge – and win – calls. May he be emboldened in the future.
> >
> > And yes, Victor is human. I appreciate his 3rd quarter even more, knowing now that his grandmother died the morning of the final.
> >
> > > [@Toblet](#):
> > >
> > > Mitch finally makes a good challenge, but the ref puts him a Technical and didn’t count the 3 point shot of Champagnie ! Even when he makes a challenge we don t get rewarded this season is driving me crazy.
> > >
> > > And yes i love your point, Mitch has only one plan : Go small ball.
> > >
> > > Robinson won the match with his offensive rebounds, and never we tried anything. No Sochan, no Olynyk, no Kornet and Wemby together. He just accepted our paint to be open bar.
> > >
> > > I’m tired to see Pop and Mitch failing to take advantage of this amazing team.
>
> > [@Jdub84](#):
> >
> > In my personal opinion, the Knicks got extremely lucky in this game. The Spurs defensive intensity was better for the entire game, yet the ball kept miraculously bouncing directly back into the Knick’s hands. I’ve never seen anything like it. On one play, it bounced off of Kolek’s shoulder right into the hands of a wide open shooter who hit the 3.
> >
> > Also, there were a couple of calls down the stretch that really hurt, the phantom foul on Kornet when Champagnie hit a 3, and then the OOB miss on another play shortly after. It crushed any momentum the Spurs started to build.
>
> > [@GaryWayne](#):
> >
> > I wanna say Barnes/Champs are a combined 4-23 on 3s the last two games. They both received multiple open looks and Castle would have had 15+ assists had both not shot bricks. Unfortunately when the shots aren’t falling for those two, they can be a liability. Neither passes or defends particularly well. And while Barnes can get to and convert at the rim at times, Champs is strictly a 3 point shooter. But considering their body of work, I expect both will bounce back quickly.
> >
> > Styles make fights as they say. The Knicks bring a relentless physicality for 48 minutes. And seemingly imposed their will and had an extra gear down the stretch, that the Spurs couldn’t match.
> >
> > Wemby looked out of control on offense and and was quite obviously not himself. It’s still an adventure every time he puts the ball on the floor, but he should be the least of our worries. He’ll be back to his dominant self in no time.
> >
> > Encouraged by the 3 point barrage by Harper. His stroke looks sweet and nothing but net on most.
>
> > [@Tropicaldaze](#):
> >
> > I learned that after we earn our stripes by battling our way through the crucible of enough deep playoff runs (however many that proves necessary) we’re going to be so very, very hard to beat. Until then, we have inescapable lessons we must learn.
>
> > [@Obi-WanGinobili](#):
> >
> > I learned that I still need to find better ways to deal with losses. I’m so bad at it.
>
> > [@spiceymeatball](#):
> >
> > I learned that Harper has the potential to be a great defender. And Castle is looking more and more like a point guard. And that Wemby is human - my thoughts go out to him for his loss.
>
> > [@SpinachBoy](#):
> >
> > The main reason we lost is INEXPERIENCE - both for the players and coaches.
> >
> > But nothing to worry about, if anything, this is the experience that we’d love the Spurs to go through now rather than later. With the added bonus that the lost doesn’t count towards our season stats, so it shouldn’t affect our race to the playoffs.
> >
> > Kudos to the Knicks, they definitely want this badly, and you can see the team’s playoff experience have pave the way for them in the 4th quarter. I’m glad they went all out on us young Spurs, to expose our inexperience.
> >
> > The silver lining from this is that the Spurs gets a free playoff experience and gets humbled after an awesome win against the best team in the league (i.e. OKC). I’d rather they eat some humble pies now than in the playoffs.
> >
> > Also, my condolences to Vic and his family for the loss of their loved one. Kudos to Vic to still came in to play even after finding out before the game, he stayed professional!!!
>
> > [@RedFirebird](#):
> >
> > Our guys learning to stay in the fight is really a big thing. Great writing!
> > Articles here in PTR really salves or helps put everything in perspective how you look at the games, win or lose. They are such great writers.
> >
> > I also learned that I didn’t like much looking at the cup champions picture this morning and still wishing those were our guys in the picture instead 😉
>
> > [@Will Haz](#):
> >
> > My thoughts are with Victor and his family following the passing of his grandmother on the morning of the game.
> >
> > I can’t ignore this event in my thoughts on Victor’s performance and that of his team.
> > Everything is going so well for the Spurs with the return of all the injured players, a united team, and this Finals appearance against the Knicks in Las Vegas.
> >
> > Mentally, it must have been tough to play… and even his body language is different from OKC.
> > I love this game, but it’s still just basketball.
> >
> > Let’s forget this game (which, statistically speaking, doesn’t matter) and get back on track to continue this great season against Washington.
> > From France, Go Spurs Go!
>
> > [@brunostrange](#):
> >
> > All of my Knicks fan friends are talking all kinds of shit today. No bueno
>
> > [@GdayMate8](#):
> >
> > If Harper can keep hitting threes, he’ll definitely be a super-sub. He showed up in this game.
>
> > [@MinchMaster](#):
> >
> > - Wemby should stop trying to go back to 3 point loving center. While that is one of his weapons, it is NOT the biggest and the most efficient weapon. We do much better as a team if he stays in the paint. (My condolence to him though)
> > - Mitch should stop hating Sochan. No I am not saying Sochan should always start vs other starters but playing a Knicks team that is scrappy and physical, he could have been utilized. Some of offensive boards came from other guys not just Mitchell Robinson. Sochan could have helped in boxing out. Yes, he does not have offensive but that actually was the case for Barnes and Chamnpagnie whose efficiency go out to window when they can’t hit 3s.
> > - Harper can be a superstar if he has a decent 3pt shooting.
> > - I guess we need to be little more famous and on the spotlight. Castle rarely gets any calls when you see him every game that he gets banged up. That technical call on Mitch for Kornet’s foul was complete BS.
> > - This team has much talent; just need better coaching and more experience.
> > - Overall, this is the game that really hurts but hopefully, they can learn something from it.
>
> > [@Nasty spurs ph](#):
> >
> > That kind of loss is what Pop would always describe as “a reasonable amount of fear” so we dont get complacent with our recent success.
via [Pounding The Rock](https://www.poundingtherock.com/spurs-analysis/91459/what-we-learned-from-the-spurs-loss-to-the-knicks#comments)