# \[PtR\] 疲惫之师马刺依靠团队协作与关键发挥力克魔术 ▶️
**URL:** https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/43809
**Category:** 环球刺讯
**Tags:** 视频, 杰里米-索汉, 2025-26赛季, 卢克-科内特, 迪伦-哈珀
**Created:** [2025 年12 月 4 日 04:40 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/43809 "2025-12-04T04:40:34Z")
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### 作者：  [@PtR](https://chinaspurs.com/u/PtR)
#### 发布日期： [2025 年12 月 4 日 04:40 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/43809/1 "2025-12-04T04:40:34Z")
[马刺 @ 魔术 114 - 112 技术统计](https://china.nba.cn/game/0022500326/box-score) | [视频集锦](https://china.nba.cn/game/0022500326/collection)
By Marilyn Dubinski | Pounding The Rock (PtR), 2025-12-04 03:38:06
在主场激动人心地战胜灰熊队一晚后，马刺队马不停蹄地踏上了又一个四连客之旅。他们直到凌晨4点才抵达奥兰多，并且球队本就人手短缺，因此，任何人将此视为一场计划内的失利都情有可原。然而，这支马刺队与以往的任何版本都截然不同。他们年轻、充满活力且阵容深厚，并凭借这一切最终拖垮了一支以逸待劳、过去11场比赛赢下9场的青年魔术军。
马刺队延续了上一场的良好状态，依靠三分球早早打开局面，前7次出手命中4球。不过，他们也比前一晚更快地在进攻端找到了平衡。[正如我们预测的那样](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/43795)，魔术队在内线得分的最大优势得以体现，他们通过一连串过于轻松的上篮得分短暂取得领先，但马刺队均衡的进攻火力仍然占据上风，首节战罢以31-29领先。
人们期待马刺队显露疲态，但他们在第二节的表现却恰恰相反，以27-20单节胜出。在比赛进行到3分钟时双方战成35平后，马刺队打出了一波18-7的攻击波，在还剩3分多钟时将领先优势扩大到11分。随后一连串的失误让魔术队打出了一波7-0的小高潮，看似要在半场结束前抢走势头，但马刺队重新稳住阵脚，凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 的一次强硬上篮和卡特·布莱恩特 (Carter Bryant) 的一记三分（他的三分球开始投开了）帮助球队再次走上正轨，半场结束时以58-49领先。
下半场开始后，马刺队也没有丝毫松懈，德阿龙·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox) 和德文·瓦塞尔 (Devin Vassell) 联手拿下开局的6分，将领先优势扩大到13分。但杰伦·萨格斯 (Jalen Suggs) 在进攻端挺身而出，再次激活了魔术队，他们将分差追至8分并迫使马刺队请求暂停。这是一节充满身体对抗、攻防高潮迭起的比赛，双方你来我往，马刺队一度领先多达15分，但随后被魔术队追至仅差5分。12分钟战罢，马刺队以86-79领先。
第四节，背靠背比赛的疲惫感开始在双腿上显现，但即便魔术队不断发起冲击，迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 依然帮助马刺队保持着领先。哈珀的出色发挥让福克斯得以休息，直到比赛还剩3分46秒时才重新登场。看起来“末节之狐”将再次用几个关键投篮带领球队走向胜利，但几次失误让魔术队仍保留着悬念。在比赛还剩16秒、马刺队领先3分时，杰里米·索汉 (Jeremy Sochan) 本有机会终结比赛，但他两罚不中。随后，哈里森·巴恩斯 (Harrison Barnes) 对另一端的弗朗茨·瓦格纳 (Franz Wagner) 的三分投篮犯规，后者三罚全中，在比赛还剩7.7秒时将比分扳平。
比赛似乎将要进入加时，但乔纳森·艾萨克 (Jonathan Isaac) 伸手对福克斯的最后一攻犯规。福克斯在比赛还剩1.4秒时两罚全中，而卢克·科内特 (Luke Kornet) 在终场哨响时封盖了瓦格纳的上篮，最终以114-112锁定胜局。能在常规时间内解决战斗或许是件好事，因为他们看起来确实已经弹尽粮绝，没有体力再战五分钟了。
### 比赛观察
- 正如预期的那样，由于昨晚比赛后周转时间极短，主教练米奇·约翰逊 (Mitch Johnson) 进行了大范围轮换，首节就有10名球员获得上场时间，其中包括大卫·琼斯·加西亚 (David Jones Garcia)。他们甚至一度在场上同时派上三名新秀：琼斯·加西亚、哈珀和布莱恩特，搭配约翰逊和索汉。第二节开始时，随着林迪·沃特斯 (Lindy Waters) 替换琼斯·加西亚上场，出场球员人数达到了11人。琼斯·加西亚在几分钟的出场时间里表现不佳，出现了几次粗心的失误。沃特斯在第四节初也获得了这些零碎的出场时间。最终，除了凯利·奥利尼克 (Kelly Olynyk) 和俾斯麦·比永博 (Bismack Biyombo) 外，所有人都登场比赛了。
- 下半场比赛的身体对抗非常激烈，这更符合人们对这两支球队的预期。裁判在大部分时间里都放任球员对抗（对此我从不抱怨），但感觉奥兰多在争抢篮板时的许多推人动作都逃过了判罚。科内特和索汉都不是软柿子或假摔者，但他们都多次倒地，有时甚至是在背后被明目张胆地双手推搡，而这为魔术队创造了快攻机会。
- 尽管最后上演了英雄戏码，但马刺队本不必让比赛变得如此艰难。他们几乎被糟糕的罚球葬送了比赛，不仅仅是索汉错失的那两次罚球，全队罚球是24罚17中。就连福克斯也投失了前三次罚球，并在赛后表示，他觉得有责任为队友罚进最后那两个球。失误的老毛病也再次出现，马刺队出现了19次失误，让魔术队借此得到了23分，而马刺队仅通过魔术队的10次失误得到13分。
- 尽管11投5中得到16分的数据并不算惊艳，但这对于哈珀来说是一场重要的比赛。如前所述，他是福克斯能够获得长时间休息并以尽可能充沛的精力终结比赛的关键原因，他的5个篮板和5次助攻也至关重要。他并非完美，出现了5次失误，其中有几次不符合他平时水准的失误让他自己都直摇头，但作为一个新秀，这孩子毫无畏惧，未来可期。
### 本场最佳镜头
最后阶段有几个镜头可以候选，但最佳镜头必须是科内特的制胜封盖，而他的庆祝动作让这一刻更加完美。
> THE BLOCK. THE REACTION ‼‼‼ [pic.twitter.com/o6XpgJvGc4](https://t.co/o6XpgJvGc4)
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> — San Antonio Spurs (@ spurs) [December 4, 2025](https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1996407966434496779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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> # Tired Spurs use team effort and clutch play to vanquish the Magic
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> One night after an exciting win at home against the Grizzlies, the Spurs found themselves right back out on the road for another four-game road trip. They didn’t land in Orlando until 4 AM and are already shorthanded, so anyone who saw this as a scheduled loss could be excused. However, this Spurs team is just different than previous iterations. They’re young, energetic and deep, and they used all that to outlast a rising Magic team that was well rested and had won 9 of their last 11.
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> The Spurs picked up where they left off by relying on threes to get them going early, hitting 4 of their first 7. However, they also found a good balance on offense sooner than the night before. [As predicted](https://www.poundingtherock.com/spurs-game-previews/90806/game-preview-san-antonio-spurs-at-orlando-magic), the Magic’s biggest strength of scoring in the paint came to fruition with a brief stretch of too-easy layups that briefly gave them the lead, but the Spurs’ balanced attack still prevailed with them leading 31-29 after 12 minutes.
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> The wait for the Spurs to tire out continued as they looked anything-but in the second quarter, outscoring the Magic 27-20. After things were tied up at 35 apiece three minutes in, Spurs used an extended 18-7 run to get the lead out to 11 with just over 3 minutes left. A slew of turnovers led to a 7-0 run from the Magic and looked like they might steal the momentum heading into halftime, but the Spurs regrouped, and a tough layup from Keldon Johnson and three from Carter Bryant (they’re starting to fall for him) helped get things right again as they led 58-49 at the half.
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> There was no letdown to start the second half either, with De’Aaron Fox and Devin Vassell scoring the first six points to get the lead out to 13, but Jalen Suggs came alive on offense to get the Magic going again, and they got the lead back down to 8 and forced a timeout. Both teams continued to have responses to each other in a streaky, physical quarter in which the Spurs led by as much as 15 before the Magic got back within five, and the Spurs led 86-79 with 12 minutes left.
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> The fourth quarter is when the legs start getting tired on a back-to-back, but Dylan Harper kept the Spurs ahead, even as the Magic kept making pushes. Harper’s play allowed Fox to rest until there was 3:46 left, and it seemed like Fourth Quarter Fox would lead them to victory again with a few huge shots, but a couple of turnovers kept the Magic in it. Jeremy Sochan had a chance to put it away with the Spurs up three with 16 seconds left, but he missed both free throws. Harrison Barnes then fouled Franz Wagner on a three on the other end, and he hit all three FT’s to tie things up with 7.7 seconds left.
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> It looked like they were headed to OT, but Jonathan Isaac reached and fouled Fox on his last ditch effort. He hit both free throws with 1.4 left, and Luke Kornet blocked a Wagner lay-up attempt at the buzzer to seal the deal at 114-112. It was probably a good thing they pulled it out in regulation, because it finally felt like they were out of gas and wouldn’t have had the stamina for another five minutes of play.
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> ### Game Notes
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> - Mitch Johnson predictably went deep into the bench with the short turnaround from last night, with 10 players getting minutes in the first quarter, including David Jones Garcia. At one point, they even had three rookies in, with DJG, Harper and Bryant alongside Johnson and Sochan. The player count was up to 11 to start the second quarter with Lindy Waters coming in for Jones Garcia, who had a rough few minutes with a couple of careless turnovers. Waters also got those bit minutes to start the fourth quarter, and in the end, everyone but Kelly Olynyk and Bismack Biyombo played.
> - This was a very physical game in the second half, much more in line with what was expected from these two clubs. The refs let them play for the most part (which I’ll never complain about), but it sure felt like Orlando was getting away with a lot of shoves on rebounds in particular. Neither Kornet or Sochan are pushovers or floppers, but they both ended up on the ground on multiple occasions, sometimes with blatant two-handed shoves in the back, and that would open up fast break opportunities for the Magic.
> - Despite the late game heroics, the Spurs made things harder on themselves than it had to be. They were nearly done in by poor free throw shooting, and not just on the two missed by Sochan, but they were 17-24 overall. Even Fox missed his first three and said after the game he felt like he owed it to his teammates to make those last two. Turnovers also reared their ugly head again, with the Spurs committing 19 of them for 23 extra Magic points, as opposed to just 13 points conceded off 10 Orlando turnovers.
> - Even though the stats of 16 points on 5-11 shooting don’t jump off the page, this was a big game for Harper. As previously mentioned, he was a huge reason why Fox was able to rest so long and be as fresh as possible to close the game, and his 5 rebounds and 5 assists were also massive. He wasn’t perfect with 5 turnovers, including a couple of uncharacteristic ones that him shaking his head at himself, but this kid has no fear for a rookie and is going to be special.
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> ### Play of the Game
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> There were several candidates down the stretch, but it has to be the game-winning block by Kornet, and his celebration makes it even better.
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> > THE BLOCK. THE REACTION ‼‼‼ [pic.twitter.com/o6XpgJvGc4](https://t.co/o6XpgJvGc4)
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> > — San Antonio Spurs (@ spurs) [December 4, 2025](https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1996407966434496779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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> #### Up Next: Friday at Cleveland Cavaliers
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By Marilyn Dubinski, via [Pounding The Rock](https://www.poundingtherock.com/game-recaps/90875/tired-spurs-use-team-effort-and-clutch-play-to-vanquish-the-magic)
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### 作者：  [@PtR](https://chinaspurs.com/u/PtR)
#### 发布日期： [2025 年12 月 4 日 08:20 UTC](https://chinaspurs.com/t/topic/43809/2 "2025-12-04T08:20:05Z")
# 热评：
> [@older not wiser](#):
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> 在大多数比赛里，卢克·科内特 (Luke Kornet) 只是在场上默默地做好自己的工作。他的掩护质量极高，防守坚如磐石，而且比赛中很少犯错。我都不记得他上一次做掩护时被吹进攻犯规是什么时候了。他非常有价值，但总是以一种低调的方式体现出来。不过那个盖帽！我一直在重看那个回放。他从相当远的地方冲过来，像超人飞来一样完成了封盖。还有之后那个博尔特的经典庆祝动作！！那又是从哪学来的！这绝对是他应得的。
> 自从他签约以来，关于得到他的评论就一直都是正面的，但我对他的欣赏依然与日俱增。他是如此重要的一块拼图。英雄般的表现固然精彩——而且看得非常过瘾——但正是他日复一日的无私拼搏，才让他对球队的帮助如此之大。简直太棒了。
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> > [@eaglemike](#):
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> > 他是一个很棒的团队型球员，而且有绝佳的幽默感。马刺得到卢克绝对是血赚。在没有文班和斯蒂芬·卡斯尔的情况下赢下这么多比赛，感觉太美妙了。卢克是其中一个重要但低调的功臣。你对他的比赛描述得很到位。
> [@ItCouldHappen](#):
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> 我认为索汉的问题在于，他能在其中发挥出色的阵容配置受到了极大的限制。
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> 他跟除文班亚马之外的中锋一起在场上打球时，进攻端 从来 没有打得很好过。你可以说这是因为马刺没有在他切入和顺下时把球传给他，但这或许也跟禁区里过于拥挤有关。过去两年，当他场上不带中锋时，他在篮下的出手有78%来自助攻；而当他和一名中锋同时在场时，这个比例下降到了63%。当太多球员挤在三秒区时，防守球员就更容易协防，这使得那些切入的效率变低了。
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> 我不是说他在球队里没有角色，那太蠢了。但要说教练在误用他，也同样愚蠢。当文班和他都健康的时候，他的大部分上场时间都是和文班一起度过的，第二多的时间则是打小球中锋。就他的个人数据和球队的成功而言（好吧，他今年和文班一起时的数据并不好，但希望文班回来后能恢复到以前的水平），这两个角色是他最适合的。然而，如果这两个是他最擅长的角色，那么他能做出贡献的地方就变得有些有限了。很明显，作为一个小个阵容里的中锋，他无法对抗那些更高大的中锋；而且考虑到巴恩斯、尚帕尼、瓦塞尔最近的表现，让这些球员和文班一起多打打比赛也很重要！
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> 我实际上认为教练组在识别索汉何时能作为小球中锋发挥出色方面做得很好，并把他放在那些能让他成功的时段里，同时为他配置能够提供帮助的阵容。我知道这和我们大多数人在他新秀赛季时对他角色的设想不一样，但有时候，改变期望，而不是去责备历史上赢球最多的教练和一位带领球队打出超过七成胜率的菜鸟主教练（即使他们在最近三分之一的比赛中都缺少了两名最好的球员），也是可以接受的。也许他们这些专家，知道自己在做什么？
> [@TwentyFourteen](#):
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> 卢克·科内特真是一笔超值的签约。如果有一个性价比（影响力/薪水）的统计数据，我想他肯定名列前茅。
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> > [@mikrobass3](#):
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> > 仅次于尚帕尼吧～
> [@\#8 in the Rafters](#):
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> 是的，我们失误太多。是的，对手利用我们的失误得了很多分。是的，我们罚丢了太多球。昨晚的比赛是一场身体对抗极其激烈、来之不易的胜利。几个小时后，我们又得马上打另一场身体对抗同样激烈的比赛。没有斯蒂芬·卡斯尔 (Steph Castle)。没有维克托·文班亚马 (Victor Wembanyama)。感觉这已经是不知道第几场这样的比赛了……但我们赢了。凯尔登·约翰逊 (Keldon Johnson) 凭借着一往无前的坚韧和令人振奋的精准，一次又一次在内线强硬地完成终结。我们的孩子们继续像多年未见的那样全队拼抢篮板，向JC、KJ、JS、CB和LK致以崇高的敬意。迪伦·哈珀 (Dylan Harper) 在场上的表现就好像他已经打了好多年球一样，但他打球还不到2个月，而且其中一半时间他还在伤病名单上！德阿龙·福克斯 (De’Aaron Fox) 几乎是我们能要求的最具关键球能力的球员了，在“外星人”伤停的日子里，他承担起了我们超级巨星的角色。每日提醒：我们在这个休赛期吃下哈里森·巴恩斯 (Harrison Barnes) 的合同还拿到了报酬。马刺加油！
> [@MElizondo](#):
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> 卢克正迅速成为我最喜欢的非明星马刺球员。我爱他的职业精神，也爱他的冷幽默！那个盖帽后的亮肌肉动作简直是神来之笔！我真希望那是在主场比赛，因为观众肯定会为之疯狂。但看到全队都上来分享这份喜悦也很有趣。对圣安东尼奥来说，这是一场漂亮的胜利。
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> > [@Gualtax](#):
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> > 那绝对是一个令人难忘的回合。我喜欢他庆祝的方式。这些事情有助于建立团队化学反应，这在赛季后期会非常有用。
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> > [@jerry210](#):
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> > 我真希望文班能像科内特那样做掩护。
> [@Tropicaldaze](#):
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> 我向整个圣安东尼奥马刺队、教练组、管理层和整个组织、圣安东尼奥市以及全世界所有的马刺球迷致以最深切的歉意。过去两场比赛我们罚丢了那么多罚球，完全是我的错，我对此负全责。我几天前在一条评论里提到，在之前的12场比赛中，马刺的罚球命中率达到了85.5%，这个命中率比联盟第一的球队（84.3%）还要高。
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> 因此，很明显是我在罚球线上“毒奶”了我们自己的球队，我为自己的所作所为感到由衷的抱歉。我的错！
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> [@TontonOngBak](#):
>
> 说个题外话：去年夏天我去看我侄子（18岁）和他的伙伴们打球，他们少了一个人，所以我侄子就叫我上场。他这么做我挺开心的，虽然我很快就上气不接下气了（是啊我知道我该戒烟了），但我还是在某个回合碰巧投进了一个漂亮的小三分。这一球让我兴奋不已，以至于我做出了那个“dub”的庆祝姿势……结果他所有的小伙伴都开始大笑，我侄子悄悄过来跟我说“求你别再做那个动作了”……唉，真是尴尬……也许我应该去为马刺打球，因为他们似乎比我侄子的伙伴们更宽容（我看到卢克的队友里没人嘲笑他那个“已经不流行了的dub动作”）。
> [@BoboforHoF](#):
>
> 奥兰多远非联盟中最好的三分投射球队，但马刺还是将他们的三分出手数（27次，赛季平均32.5次/场）和命中数（9记，赛季平均11.5记/场）都限制在了赛季平均水平以下。
>
> 再往前看一场，孟菲斯是一支热衷于（但投射很差）投三分的球队。马刺也让他们的三分出手数（26次，赛季平均38.5次/场）和命中数（9记，赛季平均13.0记/场）远低于赛季平均水平。
>
> 再往前追溯到对阵明尼苏达的比赛，他们让对手投出了接近赛季平均水平的三分出手数（37次，赛季平均37.8次/场），并让对手命中了高于赛季平均水平的三分球（17记，赛季平均14.6记/场）。
> 诚然，由于对孟菲斯采取了侵略性的换防策略，马刺也给了对方一些内线机会，但在对阵奥兰多的比赛中，由于第二阵容混合使用了一些联防，这一点就不那么明显了。
>
> 我想这很大程度上与索汉作为替补中锋的使用方式和时间有关。尽管索汉有各种缺点，但他带来的一点就是换防能力。大多数外线球员不会尝试在他面前投三分，他们通常会传球并试图攻击其他点。索汉在对阵明尼苏达的比赛中上场时间不多。孟菲斯曾试图利用马刺的侵略性换防，并偶尔得手。而对阵奥兰多时，换防的侵略性就没那么强了。
>
> 鉴于防守三分线是这支球队一直做得不太好的事情之一，我很好奇米奇教练在对阵比奥兰多或孟菲斯更好的三分球队时会怎么做。顺便说一下，克利夫兰的三分命中率低于联盟平均水平（34.8%），但他们是联盟最爱投三分的球队（场均出手44.8次，联盟第一），并且能投进很多三分（场均命中15.6记，联盟第三）。
>
> > [@ItCouldHappen](#):
> >
> > 在过去4场比赛中，当索汉在场时，对手每100回合平均出手25.7次三分（命中率37%），而当他不在场时，对手每100回合出手37次三分（命中率39%）。
> >
> > 说得好！
> [@BusyJ](#):
>
> 我本以为这场比赛输定了。结果证明我错了的感觉真好。这支球队充满乐趣，感觉这只是某些特别事情的开始。
> [@ElQuatro](#):
>
> 听我分析一下。我可能说得完全不对，但当一支球队成长/成熟，并为年轻核心注入天赋时，你会发现那些试图保住自己位置的旧阵容中的优秀/伟大球员，会想办法利用自己的特质来发挥优势，并将自己的技术融入到一个能服务于球队整体的角色中。KJ正在领悟这一点，他知道自己的角色以及如何做才能让他每晚都高效。另一方面，杰里米·索汉 (Jeremy Sochan) 在很多能够充分证明他在现有阵容中位置的指标上都出现了退步。我越来越觉得他打球时是为了不出错，而这恰恰让他犯了错。结果决定一切，当你无法跟上天赋球员涌入的步伐时，你在球队阵容中的时间就接近尾声了。他没有和我们续约，而且到目前为止也没有给我们太多想要与他续约的理由，这对他的处境没有帮助……
>
> > [@StoneHammeringCowBoy](#):
> >
> > 别再黑索汉了。当他再次融入文班-卡斯尔的阵容时，他会让你为自己的言论感到后悔的，因为历史上正是在这种阵容里，他展现出了最高的效率，进攻端也是如此。
> > 他是一个机会主义得分手，我宁愿他不去投那些他感觉不舒服的球，而是把机会让给进攻更好的球员，在进攻时间快到时进行单打，也不愿看他像其他弱队里的那些出手量大的射手一样，在有一定空位的情况下，以低于联盟平均的命中率大量出手三分。
> > 他本赛季（当文班在场时）已经证明了自己不害怕出手。也许当他知道文班在篮下附近有很好的机会抢到篮板时，他会更敢于投三分。不管什么方式对他有效就行。他是个勤恳的球员，到目前为止，他通过做好自己擅长的事情赢得了自己的位置。以他目前的产出来说，他的薪水并不高，如果马刺能以一份与他贡献相匹配的合理合同留下他，球迷们应该感到高兴，因为如果你观察球队在场下的情况以及他在团队内部的沟通方式，你会发现他在场下也是一个非常有价值的团队成员。
>
> > [@spiceymeatball](#):
> >
> > 这“悼词”写得不错。可以和你上赛季给瓦塞尔、以及过去几个赛季给凯尔登写的那些归为一档了。
> >
> > 索汉才22岁。他在防守端被要求去打替补中锋，而如果让他发挥天赋去防守外线，他是NBA最好的防守者之一。
> >
> > 他在投篮方面遇到了困难，这影响了他在进攻端的表现。但赛季才刚开始——我完全支持看看他能否克服这个难关。
> [@sdowns1470](#):
>
> 我喜欢米奇这场比赛的执教。我希望他当时能把迪伦留在场上。他在那个时间点精力非常充沛。他是在比赛还剩3分12秒时被换下的。我认为迪伦和福克斯本可以在第四节就杀死比赛悬念。
>
> 我们在没有维克托的情况下7胜2负，没有卡斯尔的情况下6胜2负。这很棒，显示了这支球队自上赛季以来的成长。过去两年我们是赢不了这种比赛的。NBA需要在赛程安排上做得更好。到比赛结束时，球员们明显已经筋疲力尽了。
>
> 球员们昨晚在主场比赛，今晚又到了奥兰多。为了另一场比赛飞那么远完全没有道理。奥兰多比圣安东尼奥快一个小时，所以我们的球员还损失了一个小时。当你第二天晚上还要打比赛时，这简直是折磨。奥兰多打得很强硬，并且很多动作都逃过了吹罚，而换作我们可能就不会。迪伦至少有一次被推搡导致他走步。
> [@SpinachBoy](#):
>
> 我们在没有文班和卡斯尔的情况下，正在建立起很棒的化学反应，这对我们来说是天大的好消息！！！
>
> 目前唯一的担忧是：“索汉能否找回曾经的自己，在进攻端能打得不那么畏首畏尾？”
>
> 每一次他持球杀入禁区，他都背对防守人，寻找空位的队友。这破坏了进攻的流畅性，并给了对手足够的反应时间……该死，甚至有几次在准快攻机会中也是这样……
>
> 他在场上看起来真的很稚嫩，就好像他害怕投篮、害怕攻击篮筐、害怕犯错，而且运球也不太行。他唯一有效的作用就是侧翼防守，尽管今晚他在这方面也做得不是那么好。在进攻端，他只是缺少很多NBA级别的技术：
>
> - 投射
> - 背身单打
> - 控球
> - 球场视野
> - 进攻端的一些意识
>
> 不管怎样，我确实希望看到他在马刺体系中取得成功，但以目前的速度，对于一个四年级球员来说，现阶段很难去支持他。到现在为止，他至少应该已经发展出上述提到的一些技术了。
>
> 你可以把责任归咎于控卫索汉实验、波波，或者任何人和任何理由，但事实是，他目前正在努力适应当前的体系——无论文班在或不在。
>
> > [@spiceymeatball](#):
> >
> > > 在进攻端，他只是缺少很多NBA级别的技术：投射、背身单打、控球、球场视野、进攻端的一些意识……运球也不太行……
> >
> > 这是为了表达观点而进行的严重夸大。他当然会运球，而且作为一个前锋，他的持球任务相当多。在刚结束的比赛里，被抢断的也不是他。
> >
> > > 每一次他持球杀入禁区，他都背对防守人，寻找空位的队友。这破坏了进攻的流畅性，并给了对手足够的反应时间……该死，甚至有几次在准快攻机会中也是这样……
> >
> > 这一点无法反驳。但这也与你前面的评论相矛盾——他确实通过控球成功突破到禁区，并在靠近篮筐的好位置上。但他显然觉得自己投篮太糟糕了，以至于他破坏了整个进攻战术（他为球队创造的优势），转而寻找别人来解救他并完成投篮。这才是索汉问题的症结所在，而不是他的防守——他的防守非常出色，当不被要求打替补中锋时，更是精英级别。
> >
> > 我认为你和其他球迷对索汉的批评是合理的。但没有必要用明显不准确的陈述来表达观点（不只是针对你，而是泛指那些现在称他在防守端是累赘，或者看不到他在进攻端积极贡献的球迷，比如掩护（掩护助攻仅次于科内特）、他的持球、发动快攻以及作为进攻整体的润滑剂）。
> >
> > 还有一些球迷称杰里米是一个平均水平的篮板手。这同样不准确（在防守篮板方面）。我过去几年一直在追踪他的篮板数据。直到上赛季他改打替补中锋之前，他的防守篮板率在20-21%之间，在NBA的前锋中属于高水平。他只是在目前打替补中锋的任务上处于劣势，导致他的篮板率下降了。评价索汉需要结合具体情况。（顺便说一句，凯尔登本赛季的篮板表现非常出色）。
> [@TontonOngBak](#):
>
> 多棒的一场胜利……这种比赛我们去年肯定会输掉的。
>
> 我不想在这里重复那些负面问题（罚球、失误等），只说我在比赛中观察到的两点：
>
> 1）哈里森·巴恩斯 (HB) 尽管今晚投篮不佳，但给我留下了深刻印象。他的防守比去年好多了，主要是他在进攻端的打法非常突出。去年他基本上就是一个在底角接球就投的三分射手，但今晚我看到他持球突破、命中一个超高难度的后撤步三分、有时像控卫一样运球、冲击篮筐，我当时就在想，这家伙是谁啊！？
>
> 2）我不太喜欢他们在节末处理球的方式，就是福克斯持球，让所有人拉开空间，然后他在最后几秒发动进攻。我知道他有颗大心脏，但这似乎太容易被预判了，而且在没有高质量掩护的情况下常常不奏效……这只是我的一点浅见。
>
> 保持本色，马刺加油！GSG
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>
> > [@older not wiser](#):
> >
> > Most games Kornet just does his thing quietly. His screening is sublime, his defense is stout and he plays with few mistakes. I can’t remember the last time he was called for an offensive foul while screening. He’s so valuable but always in an understated way. That block though! I keep watching it. He came from pretty far away and got there like Superman flying in. And the Usain Bolt pose after!! Where did that come from! Well deserved.
> > The commentary on getting him has been uniformly positive since he signed but I still keep appreciating him more and more. He is such an important piece. The heroics are great - and thoroughly enjoyed - but it is his day-in and day-out selfless grinding that makes him so helpful. Just awesome.
> >
> > > [@eaglemike](#):
> > >
> > > He’s a great team guy, and a fantastic sense of humor. The Spurs scored big time when they got Luke. Winning so many games without Wemby and Stephon is sweet. Luke is a big but quiet part of that. You described his play well.
>
> > [@ItCouldHappen](#):
> >
> > I think the issue with Sochan is that he is just extremely limited in what lineups he can thrive in.
> >
> > He has NEVER been very good on offense playing alongside centers who aren’t Wembanyama. You can say its because the Spurs don’t hit him on cuts and rolls, but maybe that has to do with too much congestion in the lane. Over the past two years, when he plays without a center, 78% of his shots at the rim are assisted, when he plays with a center, that drops to 63%. It just makes it easier for defenders to help when there are too many guys in the key which makes those cuts less efficient..
> >
> > I’m not saying he has no role on the team, that’s foolish. But it’s equally foolish to say the coaches are misusing him. When Wemby and him were both healthy, a majority of his minutes were with Wemby, and the second most minutes were playing small ball center. Those are his two best role for both his numbers and the team’s success (well his numbers with Wemby weren’t good this year, but hopefully they will get back to where they were when Wemby gets back). However, if those are his two best roles, he becomes somewhat limited in where he can contribute, obviously he can’t do much against bigger centers as a small guard, and with how Barnes, Champs, Vassell have been playing, getting those guys reps with Wemby is important too!
> >
> > I actually think the coaching staff has done a great job at recognizing when Sochan works well as a small ball center and putting him in those minutes to succeed, and surrounding him with lineups that can help. I know its not what most of us envisioned for his role when he was a rookie, but sometimes its OK to change expectations rather than blame the winningest coach of all time and a rookie head coach who has his team playing over .700 ball (even though they have been missing their two best players for the most recent third of it). Maybe they, the experts, know what they are doing?
>
> > [@TwentyFourteen](#):
> >
> > Luke Kornet is such a great signing. If there’s a impact per dollar statistic then I’d say he’s right near the top.
> >
> > > [@mikrobass3](#):
> > >
> > > right behind champagnie ~
>
> > [@\#8 in the Rafters](#):
> >
> > Yes, we had too many turnovers. Yes, they scored a lot on those turnovers. Yes, we missed too many freethrows. Last night’s game was an incredibly physical and tough win. A few hours later we had to play all over again, another physical game. No Steph Castle. No Victor Wembanyama. For what feels like the umpteenth game… BUT WE WON. Keldon Johnson gutted out finish after finish in the paint with reckless tenacity and inspiring precision. Our boys continue to gang rebound in ways they haven’t in many years, huge shout out to JC, KJ, JS, CB, and LK. Dylan Harper is really out there acting like he’s been doing this for many years, he’s only been doing it for less than 2 months, and half that time he was on the injured list! De’Aaron Fox is just about the clutchiest player we could ask him to be, and has taken on THE roll as our superstar with the Alien out of commission. Daily reminder: WE GOT PAID TO TAKE HARRISON BARNES THIS OFF SEASON. Go.Spurs.Go.
>
> > [@MElizondo](#):
> >
> > Luke is very quickly becoming my favorite non-star spur. I love his work ethic, and I love his dry humor! That flex at the end of the block was solid gold! I wish that was at a home game because the crowd would have gone wild. But it was fun to see the team get in on the love. What a good win for SA
> >
> > > [@Gualtax](#):
> > >
> > > It was surely a memorable play. I loved the way he celebrated. This things help building team chemistry that will be very useful later on in the season
> >
> > > [@jerry210](#):
> > >
> > > I would love Wemby to set screens like Kornet.
>
> > [@Tropicaldaze](#):
> >
> > I offer my deepest apologies to the entire San Antonio Spurs team, coaching staff, front office and organization, the city of San Antonio, and all Spurs fans everywhere. It’s completely my fault that we’ve missed so many free throws over the last two games, and I completely own that. I had mentioned in a comment a couple days ago that over the previous 12 games the Spurs had converted their free throws at a .855 clip, which is a percentage rate that is higher than the league leading team (.843).
> >
> > Therefore, it’s obvious that I jinxed my own team at the free-throw line and am most heartily sorry for having done so. Mea culpa!
> >
> > 
>
> > [@TontonOngBak](#):
> >
> > Side story: Last summer I went to see my nephew (18yo) play bball with his mates and they were short 1 player, so my nephew asked me to step in. I was kind of happy he did and though I got out of breath quite quickly (should quit smoking yeah I know) I manage to make a nice little 3 (by accident) at one point, this shot had me so excited that I made that “dub” celebratory pose …all of his mates start laughing and my nephew came to see me discretely and said “please don’t do that again” …phew that was embarrassing… maybe I should play for the spurs as they seems more forgiving than my nephew’s mate (I see nobody on Luke team laughed at his “not trendy anymore dub”).
>
> > [@BoboforHoF](#):
> >
> > Orlando is far from the best 3 shooting team in the league, but Spurs kept them to below season average attempts (27 vs. 32.5/game) & makes (9 vs. 11.5/game).
> >
> > Going back one game, Memphis is a 3-happy (but rather poor shooting) team. Spurs kept them to far below season average in attempts (26 vs. 38.5/game) & makes (9 vs. 13.0/game).
> >
> > Going one more game back to Minny, they gave up near-season average attempts (37 vs. 37.8/game) & allowed above season average makes (17 vs. 14.6/game).
> > Granted, they gave up some interior opportunities to Memphis as a result of the aggressive switching scheme against Memphis, but that was less noticeable against Orlando w/ some zone mixed in w/ the 2nd unit.
> >
> > I imagine a lot of this had something to do w/ how & how much Sochan is used as a backup C. For all his warts, one thing Sochan brings is switchability. Most perimeter guys don’t try to get a 3 off against him. They usually move the ball & try to attach elsewhere. Sochan wasn’t on the floor much against Minny. Memphis tried & occasionally succeeded trying to take advantage of aggressive switching. Switching wasn’t as aggressive against Orlando.
> >
> > Given that defending the 3pt line is one thing this team hasn’t done so well, I wonder what Mitch is going to do against a better 3 shooting team than Orlando or Memphis. FWIW, Cleveland is shooting below league average (34.8%), but is the most 3 happy (1st in attempts/game at 44.8/game) & makes a lot of 3s (3rd in makes/game at 15.6).
> >
> > > [@ItCouldHappen](#):
> > >
> > > Over the past 4 games opponents are averaging 25.7 3s/100 possessions when Sochan is on the court (hitting 37%) and 37 with him off the court (hitting 39%).
> > >
> > > Good call!
>
> > [@BusyJ](#):
> >
> > I had this chalked up as a loss. Feels great to be wrong. This team is something fun and it feels like just the beginning of something special.
>
> > [@ElQuatro](#):
> >
> > Hear me out a bit. I may be way off base here but when teams grow/mature add and inject talent to a young core then you find that good/great players that are trying to hold their spot from the old regime find ways to use their qualities to an advantage and inject their skill into a role that encompasses the whole of the team. KJ is figuring that out and knows his role and what works to make him effective night in/night out. On the other hand Jeremy Sochan has regressed in many metrics that contribute to a full justification of his position within the constructed roster. I am seeing more and more him looking to not make mistakes which actually makes him do exactly that. The ends justify the means and when you cant hold up with the influx of talent then the time on your roster nears an end. It doesnt help that he didnt extend with us and isnt giving much reason for us to want a resign SO FAR anyways…
> >
> > > [@StoneHammeringCowBoy](#):
> > >
> > > Enough with the Sochan hate. He’ll make you eat crow when he’s embedded in the Wemby-Castle-lineups, again, which is when he historically showed his highest efficiencies, also offensively.
> > > He’s an opportunistic scorer, and I much rather have him not take a shot he’s not comfortable with and give one of the better offensive guys a chance an on ISO late in the shot clock than have him chuck up medium open threes at a high clip but percentage under league average, like other volume shooters on lesser teams do.
> > > He’s shown already this season (with Wemby on the court) that he is not afraid to let it fly. Maybe he’s less afraid to take a three when he knows Wemby is close to the basket to have a good chance to get the rebound, if he misses. Whatever works for him. He’s a workhorse and so far he has earned his spot by doing the things he does well well. He’s not overpaid for his current production, and if the Spurs get him for a fair deal that matches the production he brings, the fans should be happy to have him, because if you watch the team off the court and how he communicates within the group, he is also a real valuable team member off the court.
> >
> > > [@spiceymeatball](#):
> > >
> > > Nice eulogy. To be filed alongside Vassell’s last season and Keldon’s over multiseasons.
> > >
> > > Sochan is 22 years old. He’s been tasked to move to backup center on defense, whereas if played to maximise his talents defending the perimeter, he’s amongst the best defenders in the NBA.
> > >
> > > He’s having a rough time with his shooting which is throwing him off on the offensive end. But it’s early in the season – I’m all for seeing if he works through this.
>
> > [@sdowns1470](#):
> >
> > I liked that Mitch coached this game well. I wish he would’ve left Dylan in the game. He had a ton of energy at that point. He was taken out with 3:12 left in the game. I think Dylan and Fox would’ve put the game out of reach in the 4th.
> >
> > We are 7-2 without Victor and 6-2 without Castle. That’s great and it shows this team’s growth since last season. We wouldn’t have won this type of game the last 2 years. The NBA needs to do better with scheduling. The guys were exhausted by the end as you could tell.
> >
> > The guys played in town last night and in Orlando tonight. It makes no sense to travel that far for another game. Orlando is an hour ahead of San Antonio so our guys lost an hour. That’s brutal when you have to play the next night. Orlando’s very physical and got away with a lot that we wouldn’t have otherwise. Dylan got pushed at least once which caused him to travel.
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> > [@SpinachBoy](#):
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> > We are building a great chemistry right here right now without Wemby and Castle, and that is great news for us!!!
> >
> > The only concern so far is this: “Can Sochan get back to his former self and be less timid on the offensive end?”
> >
> > EVERY possession when he drives to the key, he turns his back to his defender, looks for an open teammate. This breaks the flow of the offense and gives enough time for opponent to react… heck, there were a even a few possession like this coming from a semi-fast break…
> >
> > He really looks raw out there, it’s like he is scared to shoot, scared to attack the basket, scared to make mistakes, and can’t really dribble. He’s only effectiveness is wing defense, even though tonight he wasn’t that great at it either. On offense he just lacks alot of NBA-level skills:
> >
> > - shooting
> > - postup
> > - ball handling
> > - court vision
> > - some awareness on offense
> >
> > Anyway, i do want to see him be successful in the Spurs system, but at this rate, it’s hard to root for him at this stage for a 4th year player. He should have been able to develop some of the mentioned skills at the least by now.
> >
> > You can blame PG-Sochan, Pop, or whoever and whatever reason, but fact is, he is currently struggling to adapt to the current system - with/without Wemby.
> >
> > > [@spiceymeatball](#):
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> > > > On offense he just lacks alot of NBA-level skills: shooting postup ball handling court vision some awareness on offense. … can’t really dribble…
> > >
> > > A gross exaggeration to make a point. Of course he can dribble and does quite a bit of ball handling for a forward. He wasn’t the one getting stripped this past game.
> > >
> > > > EVERY possession when he drives to the key, he turns his back to his defender, looks for an open teammate. This breaks the flow of the offense and gives enough time for opponent to react… heck, there were a even a few possession like this coming from a semi-fast break…
> > >
> > > Can’t argue with this. But it also contradicts your comment further above - he does manage to penetrate the paint with his ballhandling and get in good position close to the basket. But he apparently feels his own shot is so broken he breaks up the entire offensive play (the advantage he’s put the team in) to look to someone else to bail him out and shoot. This is the crux of the problem with Sochan, not his defense at which he’s very good, and elite when not be asked to play back up center.
> > >
> > > I think you and other fans are rightfully critical of Sochan. But it’s not necessary to make the point with statements that are cleary not accurate (not necessarily calling you out, but generally fans that are now calling him a liability on defense or failing to see those positive areas of his contributions on offense, like screening (best screen assists behind Kornet), his ballhandling, running breaks and overall lubrication of the offense).
> > >
> > > There are some fans also calling Jeremy an average rebounder. This is also inaccurate (on the defensive boards). I’ve been tracking his rebounding for the past few years. Until his move last season to backup center, his defensive rebounding was at a 20-21% rate, high amongst forwards in the NBA. He’s simply disadvantaged at his current task as backup center and his rebounding rate has dropped. It’s a matter of evaluating Sochan in context. (parenthetically, Keldon’s rebounding this season has been outstanding).
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> > [@TontonOngBak](#):
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> > what a win…kind of games we would have definitely lose last year.
> >
> > don’t want to come back on the negative points (FT, Turnovers etc) here, just 2 observations I had during the game:
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> > 1. HB despite shooting poorly tonight has impressed me, his defense is much better than last year and mainly his play style on offense is what stood out. Last year he was mostly a catch and shoot 3 on the corners, when I saw him tonight driving the ball, making a super step back 3, bridling like a point guard at times, driving to attack the rim, i was like who’s that guy!?
> >
> > 2. I am not a big fan of the way they manage end of quarters when Fox keep the ball, tells everybody to clear, then run his attack on last few seconds. I know he’s clutch, but seems like it’s expected and often not working without a proper screen…just my 2 cents here.
> >
> > Keep it real Spurs GSG
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